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rtracy111
December 19, 2017, 21:50
So I found a Brit kit, bore erosion 0 or better 90% or better on the finish. Its an all matching kit stamped 1980. I have some pics sent to me by seller but do not have time to post. paid 600 shipped. What would to approx value in today's market, just looking for rough value. thinking this was a good deal.

hkshooter
December 19, 2017, 22:11
Opinions vary.
GP has a list in the MP that's sitting, starting at $750 going up to $995.
Since I've been in the market myself I've been watching a few. On GB I've watched a couple go for $505 and $581. Nice, complete, not perfect. The higher one had an uncut barrel, the cheap one neutered. There are others in the $500+ range that are sitting.
I'd say your kit is likely worth what he paid for it, maybe add $100 to the right buyer.
A few months ago there was one in the MP that was listed for $900, IIRC. It sat for a weeks before finally selling. The selling price was not disclosed. This was one of the nicest and newest year stamped kits I've seen, seem to recall 80 something? I nearly bought it myself but the price, well, I'm a cheap bastard.

gunplumber
December 20, 2017, 07:56
Opinions vary.
GP has a list in the MP that's sitting, starting at $750 going up to $995.

for completely inspected, repaired, & refinished - a $250 value and the $995 is with a super rare NIW UK barrel - worth up to $400 by itself

For an average kit, I'd say about the same as an IMBEL. Harder to sell, smaller market. So $500-$600

hkshooter
December 20, 2017, 16:15
for completely inspected, repaired, & refinished - a $250 value.....

Ever lend thought that some folks may want the kit in it's original, worn finish? Could be an option, not everyone wants to build a shiny new rifle.

I'm not intending to take away from the work you've done to these kits, they are beautiful and will build gorgeous rifles. Seems that it would make sense to offer the kits for a lower price in original finish with a refinish and repair job offered as an upgrade.

gunplumber
December 20, 2017, 16:46
Ever lend thought that some folks may want the kit in it's original, worn finish? .. Seems that it would make sense to offer the kits for a lower price in original finish with a refinish and repair job offered as an upgrade.

There are other places where people can buy beat-up kits with broken and missing parts, and covered with rust. Just not from me.

rtracy111
December 20, 2017, 17:52
+1 Gunplumber, I just had a friend go on your site to order off you knew he would be happy with what he got from you. going to post some pics of the kit in a few. What is one of the LMT/DSA dropped forged L1A1 receiver worth? I have access to one guy is asking 525.00 plus shipping.

gunplumber
December 20, 2017, 18:17
What is one of the LMT/DSA dropped forged L1A1 receiver worth? I have access to one guy is asking 525.00 plus shipping.

Snatch it up. They go for $600+ here.

rtracy111
December 20, 2017, 18:33
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Riversidesports
December 20, 2017, 18:36
There are other places where people can buy beat-up kits with broken and missing parts, and covered with rust. Just not from me.

What ?

The venerable Gunplumber won't offer SARCO SELECT ?

good on him

rtracy111
December 20, 2017, 18:38
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rtracy111
December 20, 2017, 18:41
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gunplumber
December 21, 2017, 08:26
Hmm - I wonder if the red paint at the chamber means anything - like it was condemned.

Looks pretty nice. You might get $600 for it, late barrel and all. I would offer you half that. Or trade for a FAL kit. Auctions are always the best way to determine value.

def90
December 21, 2017, 09:26
Ever lend thought that some folks may want the kit in it's original, worn finish? Could be an option, not everyone wants to build a shiny new rifle.

I'm not intending to take away from the work you've done to these kits, they are beautiful and will build gorgeous rifles. Seems that it would make sense to offer the kits for a lower price in original finish with a refinish and repair job offered as an upgrade.

I would buy one of the refinished kits in a heartbeat but I can't get past the scrubbing of the original serial numbers. Rather have all the original markings even if they don't match.


I would put an all matching number Brit kit at a premium.. very few of them out there match. I'm guessing Century demilled them at import and threw all the parts in a pile and then put together their rifles and kits by grabbing random pieces. It's a shame.

gunplumber
December 21, 2017, 10:05
I would buy one of the refinished kits in a heartbeat but I can't get past the scrubbing of the original serial numbers. Rather have all the original markings even if they don't match.

Which is, to me, one of the more bizarre, irrational, illogical, emotional precepts I've ever heard. I believe that you are a minority of my customer base. If I do have a number-matching kit, I may keep it that way. But my experience has been, that the same people who pontificate on original numbers, are not willing to pay much of a premium for it. Which makes interchangeability of more value to me than humoring a very small portion of my potential buyers.

Also, I may need to pull a lower or bolt/carrier assembly from inventory to repair another rifle. That I can use any part, from any kit, on any gun, without refinishing it, is important to me. Because they are not numbered to a non-existent receiver. I can also, on request, stamp the buyer's receiver number, if he doesn't have his own stamps.

I do match the kits up as best I can, trying to keep all dated parts within the same few years, if available. And I try to keep Aussie and UK groups together. One may note from my marketplace ad, that the description of certain kits has changed. This is because I had some mixed Aussie/UK kits. I obtained some more parts, and was able to rearrange those kits to be more uniformly from one country or the other. I also, when possible, try to match the furniture to the era. So a pre-1960 UK would more likely have wood furniture, and a later one the plastic.

Digression: Although I now have a UB60(?) marked Aussie lower - with a blank AD on the right side. That was interesting. And I have plenty of Aussie cross-flag proofed Enfield bolts. And one really interesting bolt w/crossed flags and no lightening cuts. Originally thought it was Indian, but although India used the broad-arrow stamp, the crossed flags, I think, are unique to Australia.

hkshooter
December 21, 2017, 10:28
I'm in that minority, too, I suppose. I don't care for the mill marks. Matching numbers or not, I rather have those than milled windows. This follows my tendency to like things as original as possible. Emotional, illogical, not to your preference for reasons of convenience, not withstanding. Those marks are a part of the piece's history and that's a major draw for me. I understand you are in the business of making money and do what you can to improve that endeavor. But taking time to mill out numbers, were I in a position to decide, is not something I'd spend the time and effort doing unless a customer requested it, and then there would be a fee involved.

rtracy111
December 21, 2017, 14:18
I am not looking to sell unless somebody really wanted it. I will pick up the receiver in Feb when I have the funds and a beautiful correct Brit L1A1 will be reborn. My first Fal build was Brit. It was a great shooter and sets is a friends collection and I will get it back one day. I like the Inch guns better then the metrics, always have. They feel lighter in the hand have better balance and if a good barrel, shoot better then the average metric. The only reason I started crewing Metrics together was because they are easier to find the right receivers for. I am in no way a purest. but I think a metric should be metric and an inch should be an inch.

SCHALLERJOHN
December 23, 2017, 09:10
Out of curiosity, where are you sourcing an L1A1 upper receiver?

rtracy111
December 23, 2017, 14:01
An inactive member here, its where i got the kit. Ill post pics when she is built.

raexcct2
December 24, 2017, 01:18
+1 Gunplumber, I just had a friend go on your site to order off you knew he would be happy with what he got from you. going to post some pics of the kit in a few. What is one of the LMT/DSA dropped forged L1A1 receiver worth? I have access to one guy is asking 525.00 plus shipping.

At $525, snatch it. I just sold an NOS LMT/DSA dropped forged L1A1 receiver for $1000 last month to pay for my daughter's MRI bills.

def90
December 24, 2017, 01:43
At $525, snatch it. I just sold an NOS LMT/DSA dropped forged L1A1 receiver for $1000 last month to pay for my daughter's MRI bills.

Are those Aussie cut or Brit cut?

raexcct2
December 24, 2017, 01:44
Are those Aussie cut or Brit cut?

Australian

Thorack
December 24, 2017, 06:14
Whoa!!!

$1k for a DSA Aussie receiver. Thats a record. Wonder how much a loose Eden would go for?

Thorack

raexcct2
December 24, 2017, 16:38
Whoa!!!

$1k for a DSA Aussie receiver. Thats a record. Wonder how much a loose Eden would go for?

Thorack

Probably even more. The buyer was pretty insistent and at that price I couldnít say no especially since I needed the money for the MRI as I am still fighting GEICO insurance for the car accident in which she was rear ended at a stoplight by a idiot GEICO insured driver who wasnít paying attention.

Iíve been noticing that L1A1 kit prices on Gunbroker are down unless itís an unmolested , original kit with original barrel. I have two all original British L1A1 kits that I will be selling after Christmas plus two ARS built L1A1ís (1 British, 1 Australian) both safe queens (never been shot after coming back from ARS) that I also might put up for sale. Iíll have to check which receivers I used on those two. I think they were both Imbel inch but I am not sure if I used a LMT/DSA on the Australian. Still trying to consolidate parts to sell but the market sucks right now.

rtracy111
December 24, 2017, 19:20
This one will be a Brit cut.