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Invictus77
November 14, 2017, 17:24
I have a 1952 Colt Govt Model that was built by a semi-local "1911 guru" for competition back around 1980.

It shot several 1,000s of round for about 5 years at that time and was excellent, then sat for most of 20 years, then randomly shot for a few years, and then another few thousand rounds the past 5 years.

The last several months it has more & more repeatedly had FTF when cycling which I attributed to a weak return spring, and before anyone asks, yes it has been fully disassembled, cleaned, and lubed repeatedly. After discussion with others, I was told to replace ALL springs which I did today with a Wolf spring kit.

The FTF went away, but I am still getting an occasional hammer follow through which also happened before the spring kit change. Hammer follow though is 100% when empty and letting the slide drop home, but also 1 or 2 rounds out of a mag when self loading. It is not an empty gun test issue.

I did tweak around a bit with the sear & disconnect spring as well as put the original back in with no tweaking. No love found there either.

Now my thought is I need to start over with a new hammer, sear, & disconnect.

Question #1: Am I on the right track?
Question #2: Recommendations on what hammer, sear, & disconnect to buy?

tdb59
November 14, 2017, 18:22
Hammer follow still sounds as if the 3 finger spring is misaligned / short / weak.



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hemcon9
November 14, 2017, 20:16
Check sear nose for rounded or chipped.
Check hammer full cock notch for same.

Use a loop or magnifier to look at the sear and hammer when you do.
There are excellent illustrations and text in the Kuhnhausen manual that covers this.

Re-springing a competition pistol that was done decades ago would very likely result in hammer follow.

Invictus77
November 14, 2017, 20:32
Check sear nose for rounded or chipped.
Check hammer full cock notch for same.


And if that does seem to be an issue, what brand/where to buy for replacement parts?

hemcon9
November 14, 2017, 20:53
Someone will be along in a minute to tell you what a shit-heel I am, but I like:

Genuine U.S. military parts (the more stolener, the better).

Colt factory parts

Parts by Les Baer

TerryN
November 14, 2017, 22:44
I prefer HARD hammers and sears, because they (hopefully) last longer than others. I prefer the EGW Competition sear and either MGW or Cylinder & Slide hammers. I've used a bunch of them over the decades with zero problems. Brownells carries/carried both, or you can order direct. Or maybe not - I can't find MGW 1911 parts online.

pl521
November 15, 2017, 04:28
Hammer follow though is 100% when empty and letting the slide drop home, but also 1 or 2 rounds out of a mag when self loading. It is not an empty gun test issue.

I did tweak around a bit with the sear & disconnect spring as well as put the original back in with no tweaking. No love found there either.

Now my thought is I need to start over with a new hammer, sear, & disconnect.

Question #1: Am I on the right track?
Question #2: Recommendations on what hammer, sear, & disconnect to buy?

Almost on the right track. There are two test you need to perform. First test is to determine if hammer follow is caused by trigger bounce; remedied by adjusting the center leaf sear spring forward for more tension. Second test is to detrmine if hammer follow is caused by engagement problem of sear and hammer.

Do the folowing test in sequence.

1. Release slide with trigger not pulled. You've already done this test and hammer followed.

2. Release slide with triiger pulled.

If hammer does not follow on test 2, adjust the center sear spring forward. If hammer follows on test 2, you may have engagement problem that may require replacment of sear and hammer.

If replacing sear, hammer & disconnector, reccomend buying Ed Brown, Wilson Combat, EGW or other manufacturers with parts made with hardened tool steel for long lasting wear. Parts are available through Brownell's.