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justashooter
November 14, 2017, 12:21
looks cheap and easy to maintain. thinking about a 22AR and a semi-auto Beretta 70S pistol. your thoughts? is there a better low cost 35db that is as easy to maintain?

Merkava
November 14, 2017, 19:34
Mine is great. Originally had an Outback II which was a major pain to clean. Upgraded to GM-22 which is just as quiet, but easier to maintain. Just unscrew and tap out the junk. I am satisfied.

Stranger
November 14, 2017, 22:21
I wouldn't buy a GM22 for several reasons.

The biggest reason is that it is made of aluminum. Even standard pressure/velocity 22LR will erode 7075 T6 over time (7075 is less corrosion resistant than 6061). It only took around 5K rounds before I noticed significant erosion on my Outback IID.

Another reason is the monolithic core. With previous K-baffle stack designs you could manage erosion by rotating which baffles were closest to the muzzle. That isn't possible with a monolithic core.

Lastly, Dater is a ... well lets just say he is not the most honest and upright guy around. I know this from personal experience. Many also consider him a traitor to NFA enthusiasts (and Americans). Just Google "GemTax" to get the whole story. Yes, I know Dater sold GemTech to S&W this year but to me it is fruit of the poison tree.

If you want a suppressor that will last, get one made out of steel. Consider that the major expense of a 22LR can is the cost of the tax stamp. It instantly turns a $300 suppressor into a $500 suppressor. There isn't as big a difference between a $400 and a $300 can once the tax gets paid.

I highly recommend a Silencerco Spectre 22. I lost track of how many tens of thousands of rounds we have put through our two. (Technically ours are SWR Spectre II suppressors. SWR was bought by Silencerco who makes the same design under the Spectre 22 name.)

https://silencerco.com/silencers/spectre-22/

It costs about the same as the GM22 and will last tens of thousands of rounds longer.

partisan50
November 16, 2017, 18:05
. Just Google "GemTax" to get the whole story.

Oh yeah Gemtax.

So AAC takes one of their own suppressors and puts Gemtech's make, model, and serial number onto their can.

Then, Gemtech questions the ATF about the legality of AAC doing this and finds out that it is not legal to do so.

Aaaand you blame Gemtech?

There was a pic on silencertalk with the two different cans with the same info.

Stranger
November 20, 2017, 14:58
Oh yeah Gemtax.

So AAC takes one of their own suppressors and puts Gemtech's make, model, and serial number onto their can.

Then, Gemtech questions the ATF about the legality of AAC doing this and finds out that it is not legal to do so.

Aaaand you blame Gemtech?

There was a pic on silencertalk with the two different cans with the same info.

That is an oversimplification of the history and I suspect you know it.

One company repairing another company's product is perfectly legal in all other markets. GemTech lobbied the BATFE and made it all but illegal to repair suppressors. Before GemTech shit the bed the BATFE didn't care what was going on between the sheets.