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raubvogel
September 23, 2017, 08:11
So I read in another forum someone claiming that if FN never met Browning, it would have closed it's doors. Fact or fantasy? And, could I get some references?

4markk
September 23, 2017, 08:40
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2015/01/joe-grine/partnership-ages-john-moses-browning-fabrique-nationale-dherstal/

Invictus77
September 23, 2017, 09:55
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2015/01/joe-grine/partnership-ages-john-moses-browning-fabrique-nationale-dherstal/

Great link....thanks!

croftonaviation
September 23, 2017, 10:23
Nice read indeed.

paco
September 23, 2017, 14:54
I think,
they needed each other...
FN had serious hard times after the 1889 mausers were produced. They got in to bikes, cars, milkmachines and others to survive.

Colt and Remington were buying his pattents just to prevent the other to produce'm.

Due to some coincident, Mr Berg and JMB meeted each other.
JMB was a clever mind if you are talking about sales and marketing.

He quiqly realised the opportunities in Europe and the door to the rest of the world...

It is a typical what if then story. Would Dieudonne Saive got the possebility to develop the FN FAL and MAG58 if JMB was not there?

I don't know, but i like the story the way it all went...
I'm very happy to have a milepole in my colllection. The one milionth handgun ever made. Presented to the master in 1914.

http://www.falfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=405134&highlight=millionth
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a254/joeplf/FN%201000000/IMG_0422.jpg (http://s13.photobucket.com/user/joeplf/media/FN%201000000/IMG_0422.jpg.html)

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a254/joeplf/FN%201000000/20101013_0105.jpg (http://s13.photobucket.com/user/joeplf/media/FN%201000000/20101013_0105.jpg.html)

Impala_Guy
September 23, 2017, 15:44
I would say that Dieudonne Saive was at least as responsible for FNs position today. Since he was Brownings underling at FN, one could argue that some of his genius rubbed off on him.