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Errtons
July 29, 2017, 23:46
G'day all,
Here is my Lithgow manufactured L1A1 straight-pull prototype rifle. Back in the 60's Lithgow built approx 100 - 130 or so straight-pull single shot L1A1 rifles with modified stocks and fore-ends for Fullbore target use.

https://i.imgur.com/I9khdDR.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/2yxEfbV.jpg

This one was built "on the side" so to say at Lithgow purely for a "Why not/what if" factor, as a magazine fed straight-pull, it wasn't given any make or model stampings, only a caliber stamp on the left side of the receiver and proof mark under the receiver near the barrel, and eventually given a serial number by the NSW Police at a later date.

https://i.imgur.com/CLzN3g2.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/a2QqYsU.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/YIP6ye6.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/5my6tLU.jpg

As far as anyone knows, this is the only magazine-fed model that exists. The receiver is not cut on the left side for the regular charging handle, the bolt is spring-assisted via the rats tail, the front sight block is different from a regular L1A1 having no gas port in it, and it is not threaded for the gas plug.
The barrel is mil-spec chrome lined, although I'm not sure if the barrel has the gas port in it.

https://i.imgur.com/yhYojHW.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/bYFYFYS.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/IyuyBiI.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/uuhTIui.jpg

This was built well before the 1996 semi-auto rifle restrictions came into place in Australia which is what makes it especially unique and was built from the ground-up this way, it is not a converted semi-auto rifle.
Chambered in 7.62, it functions flawlessly though we did have issues with the bolt locking up when using PPU ammo, though all other factory ammo worked fine.

The fact this is simply a bolt action, not was not technically built as a semi-auto makes it civilian legal to own in Australia, except in some states where it is prohibited as it falls under "military appearance" clauses.

https://i.imgur.com/bKjkRF2.jpg

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https://i.imgur.com/FdOvWxE.jpg

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Thorack
July 30, 2017, 04:00
Wow,

Beautiful rifle! Lots of folks are going to be very jealous. Once you get your toes and a can of VB in your pictures they will be perfect. 😉

Thorack

JonnyP
July 30, 2017, 05:19
How does it shoot? :bow:

DakTo
July 30, 2017, 09:14
The straight pull is very interesting. Like the UK, if that is the only way you can keep your SLR in your country at least it shoots.
With the US price of ammo now days the "blasting" of ammo is over for most of us.

As a matter of interest would it be legal to braze on a gas plug, gas tube and gas regulator just for show?
Thank you for the information and photos.

pistolero1911
July 30, 2017, 09:18
Well ain't that a horse of a different color. I never knew such a thing existed. A true piece of history.

Vulcanator
July 30, 2017, 09:50
Don't see why they cut the top cover and attached a cocking handle to the bolt carrier. In the UK they use the existing charging handle to cycle the rifle. Interesting take on the L1A1 though.

enbloc8
July 30, 2017, 14:56
Well, the competitive field of the day would have been dominated by bolt rifles like the SMLE or Omark, so perhaps they thought shooters would have already been accustomed to manipulating the action with their right hand. I can also see that a new bolt handle on the right side would disrupt the shooter's position less than using the original charging handle.

Andy the Aussie
July 30, 2017, 15:05
These were not designed for circumventing any law around semi automatic function (look at when they were made, we could then order a new in box L1A1 direct from Lithgow, they were designed, as noted by enbloc, as a competitive Full Bore rifle to compete against , primarily, the Omark M44. Cocking on the right is much easier to accomplish in position prone than the standard L1A1 (assuming a right handed shooter).

Lovely rifle mate. Welcome aboard.

Andy :beer:

Errtons
July 30, 2017, 15:39
How does it shoot? :bow:
It's definately no match grade rifle, minute-of-torso is what it'll shoot. Although currently it shoots about 7 - 10" to the right at 100m.

I bought it more of a collectors piece, not a shooter but it is fun to take to the range and scare the fudds into thinking I've brought a semi-auto out.


As a matter of interest would it be legal to braze on a gas plug, gas tube and gas regulator just for show?
Thank you for the information and photos.

Sadly even owning the gas parts is treading a very fine line with our laws here.

enbloc8
August 03, 2017, 21:16
It's definately no match grade rifle, minute-of-torso is what it'll shoot. Although currently it shoots about 7 - 10" to the right at 100m.


What shape is the barrel in? If the TMH has a "rejected" cross-in-circle mark on it, perhaps the barrel didn't pass muster at the factory either?

enbloc8
August 03, 2017, 21:21
Could you possibly post some pics of the bolt/carrier/charging handle out of the rifle and dismantled? I could see that being an interesting "project" for some of the guys here.

SAFN49
August 03, 2017, 21:43
Don't see why they cut the top cover and attached a cocking handle to the bolt carrier. In the UK they use the existing charging handle to cycle the rifle. Interesting take on the L1A1 though.

IIRC at least one of the UK versions made it across the pond.

Errtons
August 03, 2017, 22:02
What shape is the barrel in? If the TMH has a "rejected" cross-in-circle mark on it, perhaps the barrel didn't pass muster at the factory either?
I cannot see any such mark on the barrel as is.

Could you possibly post some pics of the bolt/carrier/charging handle out of the rifle and dismantled? I could see that being an interesting "project" for some of the guys here.
Sure. The charging handle doesn't seem to un-screw or come out of the bolt carrier easily so I shan't try and take it out.

Someone told me that the serial number on the bolt itself is apparently from a Papua New-Guinea police rifle, though I have no clue on that.

Overall the rifle is an interesting amalgamation of parts.

https://i.imgur.com/phVd1tu.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/3mwLOe8.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/ZJmR2HT.jpg

yellowhand
August 03, 2017, 22:14
Great piece of history you have there and welcome to the FF!!!!:bow:

I work wood stocks, and will make ya an offer;;)

Send me the butt stock, I'll fix and repair the crack and clean it all up for ya for return postage only.

Something that nice needs a nice clean crack free butt stock!:D

Errtons
August 04, 2017, 01:47
Great piece of history you have there and welcome to the FF!!!!:bow:

I work wood stocks, and will make ya an offer;;)

Send me the butt stock, I'll fix and repair the crack and clean it all up for ya for return postage only.

Something that nice needs a nice clean crack free butt stock!:D

Already have a replacement stock organised, there's plenty of L1A1 furniture sitting around on LGS shelves over here haha.

yellowhand
August 04, 2017, 02:45
Already have a replacement stock organised, there's plenty of L1A1 furniture sitting around on LGS shelves over here haha.

Well hell, pick up and send us about 100 sets of regular wood hand guards then!!!!:biggrin:
Don't bogart that wood now!;)
We're even allies from time to time, though we don't share a common language.:rofl:

raubvogel
August 04, 2017, 05:07
I actually want to build one. At least make the bolt carrier - be it L1A1 or even metric -- and cover mods.

Is it me or the cover does not have the little tab on the back I was told all real L1A1s are supposed to have?

Errtons
August 05, 2017, 04:49
I actually want to build one. At least make the bolt carrier - be it L1A1 or even metric -- and cover mods.

Literally just remove the gas system. The spring-assist for the bolt is functioned via the rats tail.

VALMET
August 05, 2017, 06:36
Needs a tactical scope and a Surefire tac light...




Obviously kidding, very cool rifle indeed.

raubvogel
August 05, 2017, 06:39
Literally just remove the gas system. The spring-assist for the bolt is functioned via the rats tail.

But I still would want to have the charging handle on the right side, specially when shooting prone. Try shooting a scoped FAL in single shot mode after you spent the time to sling yourself up. Specially if you do not have swimmer's arms. With irons is not that bad. :D