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Mebsuta
July 16, 2017, 23:17
I think they have a simple, austere beauty, which I like. They are punishing to shoot though.

http://i.imgur.com/kpRPB7n.jpg

VALMET
July 17, 2017, 05:56
Nice looking rifle. Remington or Smith-Corona?

Mebsuta
July 17, 2017, 06:15
ty. That that one is a Remington. It was a beater that I used as a pattern to assemble two others. I decided to keep it and work on it. That's a replacement stock that came off a color guard rifel. I also counter-bored it with hand drill, which actually made it shoot better. Might eventually put a new barrel on it.

VALMET
July 17, 2017, 06:55
I've always preferred the original 03 pattern to the A3 in aesthetics but my gosh those 03A3s shoot with the updated sights. Had an unissued 1943 dated Remington about 15 years ago that I really wish I still had.

gunplumber
July 17, 2017, 08:39
With my eyes, the focal plane of an 03 has never worked as well for me as an 03A3. I really love that old rifle and now Criterion has a .308 barrel for it.

During a break on designated marksman course I was pinging a 500m target from standing sling supported, while all the AR-15 "operators" were struggling to keep up from rucksack supported prone w/4x scopes. There was some wind, which was hard on the 5.56, and I was having a really good day; but still, I felt rather smug for a while.


Came across a .22LR version a few years back that was really neat, although quite tedious to load the .30-06 to .22LR subcal cases.

Mebsuta
July 17, 2017, 10:57
I keep looking at those Criterion barrels. I should do something. I might.

notfrommt
July 17, 2017, 12:50
I keep looking at those Criterion barrels. I should do something. I might.

You should...

I will loan you my CMP receiver wrench but you will need a barrel vice and pull reamer.

VALMET
July 17, 2017, 13:47
You should...

I will loan you my CMP receiver wrench but you will need a barrel vice and pull reamer.

Now you have to Meb...

raubvogel
July 17, 2017, 18:17
You should...

I will loan you my CMP receiver wrench but you will need a barrel vice and pull reamer.

Shouldn't Ratas Calientes' barrel wrench work?

tac-40
July 17, 2017, 20:48
I used the M16 aluminum vice blocks to crank on the barrel of my 03A3 while turning the receiver with the Brownells universal receiver wrench.

Criterion is a subsidiary of Krieger barrels. I have them mounted on a P14 .303 Remington and a Model of 1917 30-06 Winchester. Both will shoot 1 MOA at 100yds using HXP ammo bagged off the bench.

yellowhand
July 17, 2017, 21:00
Luv my 03's, got a complete rifle kitted out, mostly NOS parts collected over 30 years, going up to Gunplumber when he has time to screw it all together for me, with a NOS 1944 dated two grove barrel and NOS Smith C receiver.:D

Damn nice rifle Mebs.:bow:

mike law
July 18, 2017, 00:59
Mark, did that happen to be a M1903 Gallery Practice Rifle? If so, it would shoot .22 Shorts, not .22 Long Rifle. The Hoffer Thompson Auxillary Chambers were bored to use only .22 Short Rounds.

The M1922 Series of rifles did shoot .22 Long Rifle Rounds. They fed from a .22 magazine and did not use the H-T Aux. Chamber.

I have a M1903 G.P. Rifle and it is a lot of fun to shoot. Even with loading and unloading the H-T Aux. Chambers. There is a special tool to help with getting the fired brass out. I also use that tool to push the firing pin back out of the way. Makes it easier to insert the round into the chamber.

Regards, Johnny Lawson

gunplumber
July 18, 2017, 07:58
My error in confusing two different .22 1903s.

One was the the .22 short version with subcal cartridges and looked like a regular 03. The other looked like a sporterized model and said Long Rifle CART'GE ONLY on the barrel, Cal. .22 M2 on the receiver - magazine fed.


http://www.arizonaresponsesystems.com/wp/us-1903-22-02.jpg


http://www.arizonaresponsesystems.com/wp/us-1903-m2-02.jpg

Mebsuta
July 24, 2017, 00:20
See? Even T. Marcus Grammaticus, the modernist, likes the 03A3.

I am going to rebarrel this rifel sooner or later. I did some thinking and bought an NOS Remington GI barrel.

Here's why I decided to stay with .30-06.

1. The Remington GI barrel is a proven part known to work.
2. It was easier to get than the Criterion barrel.
3. It already has the front sight base installed.
4. I couldn't find any testimony from someone who made the conversion from -06 to .308. Installing the barrel and setting headspace is not hard to do, but going from a case length of 63mm to 51mm might bring feeding issues.

One more thing; if you need a front sight blade, think about getting the tallest available. You can file it down if you have to, but if it's too short and you bottom out on the rear sight, you'll be shooting high until you replace it.

yellowhand
July 24, 2017, 00:26
You should be happy with the Rem barrel, and no idea why, but always thought more of the 06 than 308.:biggrin:

gunplumber
July 24, 2017, 07:46
4. I couldn't find any testimony from someone who made the conversion from -06 to .308. Installing the barrel and setting headspace is not hard to do, but going from a case length of 63mm to 51mm might bring feeding issues.

Israeli Mauser = 8mm action in .308. Small block in mag well.

Remington 700 M40 - Long (.30-06 action) with 7.62 NATO chambering.

I've never had any problem with my l.308 garands. I usually put a block in the mag well, but not for feeding - but because long after I'm dead, the gun will still be around and I want it obvious it is not -06.

tdb59
July 24, 2017, 11:07
I've never had any problem with my l.308 garands. I usually put a block in the mag well, but not for feeding - but because long after I'm dead, the gun will still be around and I want it obvious it is not -06.

I use the mag well insert, and this to make it more obvious.


:whistling:

http://i.imgur.com/TYQoHaOm.jpg

gunplumber
July 24, 2017, 12:05
I use the mag well insert, and this to make it more obvious.


:whistling:

http://i.imgur.com/TYQoHaOm.jpg

NIce, but .30-06 is still 7.62 mm, would probably be better to mark it 7,62 NATO

davedude
July 29, 2017, 10:16
Luv my 03's, got a complete rifle kitted out, mostly NOS parts collected over 30 years, going up to Gunplumber when he has time to screw it all together for me, with a NOS 1944 dated two grove barrel and NOS Smith C receiver.:D

Damn nice rifle Mebs.:bow:

My Dad bought me a smith corona 03-a3 with a two groove Remington 1944 barrel on it long time ago. Still have it. Shoots cloverleafs at 100 with the right handload.

yellowhand
July 29, 2017, 14:21
My Dad bought me a smith corona 03-a3 with a two groove Remington 1944 barrel on it long time ago. Still have it. Shoots cloverleafs at 100 with the right handload.

I've got several complete rifles, picked up over forty years, but started picking up "spare parts" and one day, figured out, nothing ever seemed to break and had enough spare parts for a new rifle.:uhoh::)

davedude
July 29, 2017, 15:11
I've got several complete rifles, picked up over forty years, but started picking up "spare parts" and one day, figured out, nothing ever seemed to break and had enough spare parts for a new rifle.:uhoh::)

I heard that. I have a NOS bolt assembly and some other spare parts that will probably never see use. But that is a good thing! :]

1911Ron
July 29, 2017, 17:38
I've got several complete rifles, picked up over forty years, but started picking up "spare parts" and one day, figured out, nothing ever seemed to break and had enough spare parts for a new rifle.:uhoh::)

Do you have any Smith Corona parts?:whistling::biggrin:

yellowhand
July 29, 2017, 19:35
Do you have any Smith Corona parts?:whistling::biggrin:

Sorry, only the ones going into this build.

1911Ron
July 30, 2017, 14:28
Can't hurt to try! :biggrin:

ArtBanks
July 31, 2017, 16:50
Me likey 03.
Shoulder not likey much.
Make bullet go where me want mostly.

http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x413/nf1e/IMG_0757_zpsa382a011.jpg (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/nf1e/media/IMG_0757_zpsa382a011.jpg.html)

Semper Fi
Art

GDavis
August 02, 2017, 10:13
Maybe I do not shoot it correctly, but with the straight stock I am always concerned about my wrist on the stock connecting with my nose on recoil. I make sure it is tightly gripped and butt held tightly against my shoulder.

Accuracy wise, one of my most accurate, and it even has the 2 grove barrel.

SPECSPEC
August 02, 2017, 14:38
Can anyone give or ID this rifle? I cannot compare the small pins in the stock and the letter P is barely visible on stock and under the buttplate is the letter L. Can someone knowledgable give a ball park value on the rifle? Any reply would be highly appreciated. Can I not attach an image since I do not have many posts and am considered a junior member?

Mebsuta
August 03, 2017, 06:22
I wouldn't try to attach images. Just use imgur, tinypic, flickr or one of those to host your image.

W.E.G.
August 03, 2017, 07:59
We have an event for the 1903 in northern VA in November.

Bring it.

gunner30
August 04, 2017, 09:09
Mebs..you need tot take that rifel to Bible Camp, All the cool gurls will love you

Mebsuta
August 07, 2017, 00:55
Maybe the female counselors will be impressed. HoTT Bibel Camp Counselors will make a believer out of anybody.

Any, the managed recoil load I use for these is 44 gr H4895 with 125 grain bullets, either a Sierra Pro Huntard or Speer TNT. It's plenty for what I do, which is pop off some rounds at 50 and 100 yards.

1911Ron
August 07, 2017, 12:07
My Smith Corona all ready for Bibel camp!
http://i.imgur.com/7Esub3q.jpg

SPECSPEC
August 08, 2017, 12:04
Can anyone check this 03A3 out and tell me why I have not noticed another like it and why and maybe a ball park value because I am looking to sell it for the right price. I have been offered 800 bucks but I think this guy knows something I do not so I am asking the think tank and the knowledge base that exists here at falfiles. Any reply would be great. Notice the small pins in the stock. I will try to post a few pics of this rifle. Remington 03A3 4 groove barrel super rifling made in 5-43 roll stamped on barrel under front site.

http://imgur.com/1e4wTV3
http://imgur.com/juRRTvY
http://imgur.com/MK8nbkJ
http://imgur.com/KEj3AIv
http://imgur.com/jCgIa4R
http://imgur.com/7klgvfH
http://imgur.com/YBb18mm
http://imgur.com/0fYY4L3

tdb59
August 08, 2017, 12:19
Can anyone check this 03A3 out and tell me why I have not noticed another like it and why and maybe a ball park value because I am looking to sell it for the right price. I have been offered 800 bucks but I think this guy knows something I do not so I am asking the think tank and the knowledge base that exists here at falfiles. Any reply would be great. Notice the small pins in the stock. I will try to post a few pics of this rifle. Remington 03A3 4 groove barrel super rifling made in 5-43 roll stamped on barrel under front site.

http://imgur.com/1e4wTV3
http://imgur.com/juRRTvY
http://imgur.com/MK8nbkJ
http://imgur.com/KEj3AIv
http://imgur.com/jCgIa4R
http://imgur.com/7klgvfH
http://imgur.com/YBb18mm
http://imgur.com/0fYY4L3

The 4 groove barrel is less common on 03a3s. Some will pay a slight premium because of that.

I would say $ 800 is not top dollar, but is a fair price.

............

1911Ron
August 08, 2017, 14:26
Can anyone check this 03A3 out and tell me why I have not noticed another like it and why and maybe a ball park value because I am looking to sell it for the right price. I have been offered 800 bucks but I think this guy knows something I do not so I am asking the think tank and the knowledge base that exists here at falfiles. Any reply would be great. Notice the small pins in the stock. I will try to post a few pics of this rifle. Remington 03A3 4 groove barrel super rifling made in 5-43 roll stamped on barrel under front site.

http://imgur.com/1e4wTV3
http://imgur.com/juRRTvY
http://imgur.com/MK8nbkJ
http://imgur.com/KEj3AIv
http://imgur.com/jCgIa4R
http://imgur.com/7klgvfH
http://imgur.com/YBb18mm
http://imgur.com/0fYY4L3

Small pins are normal, If it was re-stocked during rebuild it would have two cross bolts instead and small parts parkerized.

As TBD said some will pay more for a 4 groove rifle, is there an R at the base of the bolt, usually it will be underneath were the handle meets the bolt body, are the small parts such as the barrel bands marked with an R? Where the barrel band spring is, is the inlet for the spring square or rounded, if square than the stock is a Remington stock.

As to value the more R marked parts you have the more correct it is thus more value. If you have a correct rifle i wouldn't hesitate to ask $1000.

SPECSPEC
August 09, 2017, 19:13
Thanks to anyone who answered and gave their input. I found the little (and I mean little) R's where they were mentioned to be. My dad said the rifle was probably carried by some US coast guard guy on the Coney Island beach or somewhere along the atlantic coast. I did want to ask what would be the best oil for the wooden stock parts to get some kind of sheen out of the wood. I am guessing that the stock is walnut?....Correct? Thanks again to the higher council.

1911Ron
August 10, 2017, 15:01
Boiled linseed oil is what was used on the wood. Take the rifle apart and remove the butt plate, take an old T shirt put some BLO on it and rub it into the stock, make sure to rub it into the whole stock and hand guards, hang it somewhere outside (you should do all of it in a well ventilated area) and let it dry for about a half hour, take a dry t shirt and wipe off the excess, let it dry for a day or so and coat it again, do this till it stops soaking it in (2-3 coats unless really dry) after the last coat and you have wiped off the excess take an old pair of women's nylon stockings and buff it real good and let dry.

SPECSPEC
August 24, 2017, 23:25
Thanks to Ron 1911 and anyone else.

1791
August 25, 2017, 07:14
Left this one in the dryer too long.:D
https://s5.postimg.org/4thtv2vt3/Spring004.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

A1Trigger_Happy
August 25, 2017, 08:17
Damn 1791!!! Beautiful peice of wood. What are you using on the stock?

1911Ron
August 25, 2017, 18:05
Left this one in the dryer too long.:D
https://s5.postimg.org/4thtv2vt3/Spring004.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

:shades::love:

1791
August 26, 2017, 12:56
Damn 1791!!! Beautiful peice of wood. What are you using on the stock?
These were made by Miniart in Russia back in the 80's. I do not know how the wood was finished. But they did start with a nice piece of walnut. The amount of detail that went into these is incredable.
Pic shows dummy 30-06 cartridge ready to chamber.
https://s5.postimg.org/jpriy9j7r/Spring1903_Mini_Art017.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

A1Trigger_Happy
August 26, 2017, 19:07
1791, I didn't even realize that was a 1:2 scale replica! That piece of walnut just caught my eye. That really is very well detailed replica.