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ArtBanks
July 16, 2017, 11:20
Got out for a bit this morning with my M25 with Kreiger ss in JAE with Leupold 8.5 - 25 for a little practice. Been awhile since she was out on the range. Trying a little different fodder today.

175 smk in Berdan DAG brass with Tula primer over 43.2 gr of RE 15.
running at 2500 fps. For the 10 rnds fired max spread was .70 ". Looks like I need to skip my morning coffee next time.

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http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x413/nf1e/Range31812010.jpg (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/nf1e/media/Range31812010.jpg.html)

Semper Fi
Art

ALL FAL
July 16, 2017, 15:51
Well done, even with coffee.

kotengu
July 16, 2017, 16:35
Very nice!

Orlando8
July 16, 2017, 17:24
That dot challenge will drive you insane on a good day:)

ArtBanks
July 16, 2017, 17:33
That dot challenge will drive you insane on a good day:)

You got that right. Since Art L. started it on the M14 forum in 2015 I have managed to stay on top. Recently a couple of fellows are starting to get pretty good. Time for me to practice again. I like being good at at least one thing.

Semper Fi
Art

01BIRDDOG
July 16, 2017, 17:40
Outstanding shooting Sir.

Falfan2017
July 16, 2017, 18:00
Now try that with a stock mosin Nagant with original irons and mil surp ammo. That will be a true test.

ArtBanks
July 16, 2017, 18:54
Now try that with a stock mosin Nagant with original irons and mil surp ammo. That will be a true test.


True test of something, but I am not quite sure what.
I don't think I could even see the 1" dots without my optics.
Could try to run Nascar circuit with a Hugo to. About the same.

Orlando8
July 16, 2017, 18:57
No one knows how difficult it really is until they actually try it. You get humbled in a hurry

ArtBanks
July 17, 2017, 07:41
No one knows how difficult it really is until they actually try it. You get humbled in a hurry

Indeed. You have to have just about everything working. Trigger conrol, postion,breathing and yes even heart rate.

Practicing for this I single load and get up from position and then back down to establish all over again between shots then acquire site picture and go for it.
Challenge is a good descriptive word for it especially with an M-14 type rifle.

MAINER
July 17, 2017, 07:43
Maybe you could use a nip of "Old Sight Settler". Hear it was a favorite with the old High Power guys.

.700" for 10 rounds, I'd say that was a bit all right. ;)

Invictus77
July 17, 2017, 09:34
Nice shooting Art :cheers:

Invictus77
July 17, 2017, 09:35
Like mainer said, a nip of "sight settler" does work, however heavily frowned upon by ROs. My best shooting is mid-day on Sunday after we come home from church for a late brunch with a couple vodka & OJs. Mind is clear and hands are steady :)

LKY_13
July 17, 2017, 10:25
No one knows how difficult it really is until they actually try it. You get humbled in a hurry

Need a like button.

Very nice shooting, Art.

justashooter
July 17, 2017, 11:17
do it with open sights. most people with intact neurology and focal ability can resolve a black on white contrast that subtends a minute of angle, which is about an inch square at 100 metres. this is apparently the maximal sensitivity for resolution of edge boundary in the retinotopic function of the M cells in the striate cortex...wish I still could.

TenTea
July 17, 2017, 12:21
Looks like fun to me! :D
One inch dots are my customary target at 100 yards, with an optic, although I usually shoot for group instead of doing the *one hit wonder.*

Sorta off topic:

My summer goal is at 50 yards and to *clean* a 25 dot target (.75" diameter and one shot per dot) with a 10/22 I put together last winter.
Not the same game but still a challenge, for me.
It ought to be easy, right? :wink:
I've recently scored 23 and 24 hits with CCI Standard Velocity but haven't cleaned it...yet.

ArtBanks
July 17, 2017, 12:50
Looks like fun to me! :D
One inch dots are my customary target at 100 yards, with an optic, although I usually shoot for group instead of doing the *one hit wonder.*

Sorta off topic:

My summer goal is at 50 yards and to *clean* a 25 dot target (.75" diameter and one shot per dot) with a 10/22 I put together last winter.
Not the same game but still a challenge, for me.
It ought to be easy, right? :wink:
I've recently scored 23 and 24 hits with CCI Standard Velocity but haven't cleaned it...yet.

10 ring on 50 yd 22 bench rest is 22cal. 20 targets with two spotters.
I have cleaned them with my Kimber Gov 22. and with my Volquartsen 10/22.
You really have to work for those too.

Hebrew Battle Rifle
July 17, 2017, 19:19
What are the rules?

flopshot
July 17, 2017, 20:31
yep, try it with a 10/22. you'll be measuring rim thickness and taking your tubes temperature. sure is nice to smoke a couple high end bolt guns though,:rofl:

tac-40
July 17, 2017, 20:41
Did the 1 inch squares at 25 yds for the Appleseed using my M&P15-22 (before the ban). Really a PITA but doable. Don't think irons at 100 yards is doable, definitely not from me.

Any rifle or does it have to be an M14 clone? got a couple of bolt guns I'd like to try it with. Plus my AR10.

Make your own targets or purchased where?

ArtBanks
July 18, 2017, 04:22
What are the rules?

If you are asking about the 100yd 1" dot challenge, rifle must be an M-14 type any configuration. Photo of rifle and target must be posted. 1 shot per dot.
Ammo load description. May be shot from any position.
Any shot contacting the dot is considered a hit.
Personally I shoot prone, but many shoot from a bench.
Try it , you may like it.

Semper Fi
Art

Hebrew Battle Rifle
July 18, 2017, 20:52
If you are asking about the 100yd 1" dot challenge, rifle must be an M-14 type any configuration. Photo of rifle and target must be posted. 1 shot per dot.
Ammo load description. May be shot from any position.
Any shot contacting the dot is considered a hit.
Personally I shoot prone, but many shoot from a bench.
Try it , you may like it.

Semper Fi
Art

I am currently minus an M-14. I have been attempting to remedy this, but so far I have not been able to get a reply from any of the sellers that I have contacted.

ArtBanks
July 19, 2017, 02:03
I am currently minus an M-14. I have been attempting to remedy this, but so far I have not been able to get a reply from any of the sellers that I have contacted.

Give it a shot with an FAL. My 50.00 does a fairly good job, but nothing like a built M-14.

fnogger
July 19, 2017, 10:39
Looks like fun to me! :D
One inch dots are my customary target at 100 yards, with an optic, although I usually shoot for group instead of doing the *one hit wonder.*

Sorta off topic:

My summer goal is at 50 yards and to *clean* a 25 dot target (.75" diameter and one shot per dot) with a 10/22 I put together last winter.
Not the same game but still a challenge, for me.
It ought to be easy, right? :wink:
I've recently scored 23 and 24 hits with CCI Standard Velocity but haven't cleaned it...yet.

Try the "tack driving" game on RFC - http://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=462689

My 10/22 build can do it, but I have to step up from CCI SV to SK Std+ or SK Rifle Match.

ArtBanks
July 19, 2017, 16:51
Did the 1 inch squares at 25 yds for the Appleseed using my M&P15-22 (before the ban). Really a PITA but doable. Don't think irons at 100 yards is doable, definitely not from me.

Any rifle or does it have to be an M14 clone? got a couple of bolt guns I'd like to try it with. Plus my AR10.

Make your own targets or purchased where?

Bolt rifles and the AR 10 should be able to do 1/2" dots. Totally different class.
Semper Fi
Art

RG Coburn
July 19, 2017, 20:13
True test of something, but I am not quite sure what.
I don't think I could even see the 1" dots without my optics.
Could try to run Nascar circuit with a Hugo to. About the same.

Did a postal match on another site a few years back,with a M39 Finn,irons only,using Czech silvertip surplus,and my best group ran about an 1 1/2" @ a hundred. The rifle...capable.The ammo..capable..Me? Anymore? I guess I could try again...
What the heck...you have the ammo,the shizz rifle...give it a whirl...:)

bfoosh006
July 20, 2017, 21:12
That dot challenge will drive you insane on a good day:)

You can say that again !!!

It is Proof that it only takes a tiny adjustment to throw off your shooting !!