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J.B
June 29, 2017, 21:36
Hello folks, I'm new to FAL pattern rifles and am having an ex Rhodesian L1A1 kit built. Can anyone give me any background on these kits? Where were they imported out of (straight from Zimbabwe or from somewhere else?). Also, is there anyone here who can point me in the direction of the codes for baby poop paint, I'm going to do the upper in it to match the rest of the kit. Also, final question, why were some rifles marked RA and some ZA?

Thanks!!!
Josh

bigstick61
June 29, 2017, 23:41
Rifles marked RA were marked when the country was still Rhodesia or Zimbabwe-Rhodesia and army referred to as the Rhodesian Army. Rifles marked ZA were marked after the country became Zimbabwe and the army was renamed the Zimbabwe National Army.

TOM DONIPHON
June 30, 2017, 03:47
J.B if you have a complete RA/ZA marked L1A1 kit with paint on it please post some pictures

gunplumber
June 30, 2017, 08:15
Paiont codes from Dunn Edwards

https://www.arizonaresponsesystems.com/notes/notes-fal-tut-rhodpat/notes-fal-tut-rhodpat.html

enbloc8
June 30, 2017, 18:30
Hello folks, I'm new to FAL pattern rifles and am having an ex Rhodesian L1A1 kit built. Can anyone give me any background on these kits? Where were they imported out of (straight from Zimbabwe or from somewhere else?). Also, is there anyone here who can point me in the direction of the codes for baby poop paint, I'm going to do the upper in it to match the rest of the kit. Also, final question, why were some rifles marked RA and some ZA?

Thanks!!!
Josh

Rhodesia was supplied with new L1A1s by Britain from 1960 through about 1963, when the British decided to impose a tacit arms embargo on the country, even in the face of a rising insurgency, due to its reluctance to accept majority rule. The Rhodies subsequently turned to Australia's SAF Lithgow (which was more of a cash-and-carry operation than the foreign-aid-package-with-strings-attached approach of London) and managed to get about a hundred more rifles before the supply was abruptly cut off due to pressure from Britain. The realization that London was lying to them about military support, despite their appeals for support due to the ongoing guerilla crisis (and in spite of their longtime loyalty and service to the Crown during WW2), was one of the critical points that led to the decision to break away and declare independence in 1965.

G3isMe
July 04, 2017, 07:36
J.B if you have a complete RA/ZA marked L1A1 kit with paint on it please post some pictures

^^This^^ Pictures would be most welcome.

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Here are the paint codes which I use.


This is a color I matched which was on one of my Rhodie lowers. I call it olive green.

Sherwin Williams - All Surface Enamel - Oil Based -LL - Ultradeep Base

Olive Green
BAC 32 oz
B1 Black 14
G2 New Green 8
Y3 Deep Gold 40


These colors are from member spenny and are the "basic" two colors to use.


Sherwin Williams - All Surface Enamel - Oil Based Satin - Ultradeep Base

Dark Green
BAC 32 oz
W1 White 4
B1 Black 25
L1 Blue 20
Y3 Deep Gold 12

Light Green
BAC 32 oz
W1 White 15
L1 Blue 5
R3 Magenta 5
Y3 Deep Gold 37

Happy Painting.
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NHBandit
July 04, 2017, 11:01
Rhodesia was supplied with new L1A1s by Britain from 1960 through about 1963, when the British decided to impose a tacit arms embargo on the country, even in the face of a rising insurgency, due to its reluctance to accept majority rule. The Rhodies subsequently turned to Australia's SAF Lithgow (which was more of a cash-and-carry operation than the foreign-aid-package-with-strings-attached approach of London) and managed to get about a hundred more rifles before the supply was abruptly cut off due to pressure from Britain. The realization that London was lying to them about military support, despite their appeals for support due to the ongoing guerilla crisis (and in spite of their longtime loyalty and service to the Crown during WW2), was one of the critical points that led to the decision to break away and declare independence in 1965.

:cool: http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg163/nhbandit/RhodesianL1A1HGs.jpg (http://s248.photobucket.com/user/nhbandit/media/RhodesianL1A1HGs.jpg.html)

G3isMe
July 04, 2017, 14:41
:cool: http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg163/nhbandit/RhodesianL1A1HGs.jpg (http://s248.photobucket.com/user/nhbandit/media/RhodesianL1A1HGs.jpg.html)

I have a complete Rhodie British stock set like that. Been contemplating starting a quest for a Rhodie LIAI kit...:facepalm:

NHBandit
July 05, 2017, 11:29
I have a complete Rhodie British stock set like that. Been contemplating starting a quest for a Rhodie LIAI kit...:facepalm: I got that set way back in the old days when Tapco still sold piles of FAL parts. Random luck of the draw. Bought some cheap handguards during one of their "closeout" sales and got those in the mix. Gave them to Kevin Adams for his collection. I found lots of cool stuff completely by accident in those days just by buying box lots of stuff. Picked up a small pile of "inch pattern" carriers one time and found an FN marked late style sand cut carrier in the pile. If I knew then what I know now.....:beer:

FAL87
July 05, 2017, 12:13
I picked this up from a member here. Replaced the plastic South African handguards the rifle came with, with original Rhodesian wood handguards.

https://s4.postimg.org/vsnzz4vr1/unnamed_3.jpg

J.B
July 07, 2017, 12:57
Thanks for all the info guys!!! I'll get pics of the rifle once it's finished, still waiting on a receiver (got one from DSA, thank god it was a Brit cut too). Most of the paint came off of the metal parts but there is still some on the stocks. Will probably re paint the entire rifle when I get it.