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Darwinsmistake
May 26, 2017, 05:24
Has anyone ever had any luck adapting a Magpul PRS to a inch pattern rifle? Or does anyone know if Magpul made one for the L1A1's?


A gent on the net has this review and aftermarket items for L1A1's. And he states these will fit the L1A1's?

http://gunmodreview.com/tag/magpul-prs2-for-fal-or-l1a1/

"The MAGPUL PRS-2 Precision Adjustable Sniper Stock is the bees knees of FAL and L1A1 Stocks"

I am looking for a good wood set but not having any luck.. The ones I am finding have cracks in them or are so beat up. I don't mind paying the money for a good matching wood set. Problem is I will get a offer to buy a wood buttstock but would like to purchase a wood stock set (grip, buttstock, forend) that at least looks close to being a matched set. Is there any other stock options out there? There are L1A1 collectors here so I presume some of you have dealt with this before.

I should have my new DS arms here soon. I will upload pics as soon as my dealer calls to let me know it's in. Pretty excited to get it.

Thanks once again guys.

Huss
May 26, 2017, 05:40
http://www.falfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=413241


Wood sets.. you can also contact FF member Yellowhand. He does great work!!

Flypaper
May 26, 2017, 05:54
I also have new L1A1 matching wood sets available .

J. Armstrong
May 26, 2017, 06:56
I personally don't get the specialty "sniper" stocks. I personally have tried a couple, in all cases I found them no more comfortable ( and sometimes less so ) than the issue stocks. Given that no FAL is ever going to be a sniper rifle ( except in some folks' minds :D ) I just don't see any reason to drain the checking account for one. Plus they are fugly.

Good, you don't even come close to qualifying as "a pain" - honest questions are just that, we all have 'em. Answering them is what this place is for ! Stick around and you'll get to see what REAL pains in the azz look like :biggrin:

BTW, check your PMs - I have an mag for your L1A1.

MilsurpMonkey
May 26, 2017, 07:17
Flypaper's wood is amazing, in fact when I get home I should have a box of it waiting for me, I love the stuff! You won't be disappointed, and the customer service is out of this world! :biggrin:

Invictus77
May 26, 2017, 07:20
New flypaper wood or yellowhand refinished wood.

You can't go wrong either way bro. Yay WOOD !!!!

raubvogel
May 26, 2017, 07:37
Flypaper's wood is amazing

Glad to see you know him that well, but that is way TMI for me.

SteelonSteel
May 26, 2017, 08:01
Not being a pain/ keep posting away. Traffic is good on this old board. In the old days when your question may have been on page 2 if you looked you might get a little heat. Never the less by all means do play with the
Search feature. There is a ton of gems in the memory banks.

Too bad it isn't the old days of many options on various rifle kits and receivers. I barely nicked the tail end of the hey days.

Be aware that they may be saying it works with L1A1 because it will
If you swap the whole lower to a metric. Just a thought and I have no specific knowledge of the product.

Personally I'd stick with OEM parts.

ExCdnSoldierInTx
May 26, 2017, 08:12
Call me a traditionalist, but to me, inch pattern rifles look best the way God meant them to be: rubbed walnut furniture and parked metal.

Leave the plastic tacticool crap to the AR and AK crowd.

J. Armstrong
May 26, 2017, 09:32
Call me a traditionalist, but to me, inch pattern rifles look best the way God meant them to be: rubbed walnut furniture and parked metal.

Leave the plastic tacticool crap to the AR and AK crowd.

Okay, you're a traditionalist :biggrin:

With you on the wood, but let's be fair, FAL synthetics of any genre are WAY better looking ( and feeling ) than any AR tupperware :devil:

Darwinsmistake
May 28, 2017, 21:16
Okay guys thanks for all the help and sorry for the late reply.


Sir Armstrong I didn't get the pm on a l1a1 mag..?

Darwinsmistake
May 28, 2017, 21:28
In the old days it may have gotten heated or I might have received a heated answer. This doesn't bother me. I like what I like and if a message board gets to be ridiculous I just sign off and head outdoors.

I prefer wood furniture as well.

As for a Fal. I own a new DS arms. I know many of you are much more into collecting as original as possible. I am a shooter and look for rifles that I don't mind getting muddy or banging around.

PvtJoker
May 28, 2017, 22:59
Your posts are honest questions looking for honest answers. That is absolutely fine.

If you want to see what qualifies as the OTHER kind of post/questions, might I suggest this thread? :biggrin: http://www.falfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=415144

Darwinsmistake
May 29, 2017, 00:33
Your posts are honest questions looking for honest answers. That is absolutely fine.

If you want to see what qualifies as the OTHER kind of post/questions, might I suggest this thread? :biggrin: http://www.falfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=415144

Yes I was asking honest questions and a lot of them. I got a tremendous amount of help and I appreciate it. I also purchased a firearm from your market place and maybe a second.
I do not need to ask as much anymore. I have learned enough to get me through most issues. I still am looking for certain things. But they will be found over time.
I now have a L1A1 and a new DS arms fal. Someday I may wish to look for a closer to original example.

I may wish to later on learn what certain answers meant such as "Unibrow" which I am admittedly stumped on. It I can only imagine pertains to Century builds?

So all is good.. I meant no disrespect to anyone here.If ir hadn't been for Hickok45 I would not have known about this forum.

OLDMANPBK
May 29, 2017, 01:00
http://i.imgur.com/5PEGRril.jpg

Here's a unibrow feed ramp for ya.

Darwinsmistake
May 29, 2017, 01:38
Thank you. I will have to look at my Century. I presume I must have one or it wouldn't have been brought up.

So may I ask what a feed ramp is suppose to look like in a L1A1?

Darwinsmistake
May 29, 2017, 01:45
So what I am reading is there should be two basic cuts in the Unibrow for cartridge feeding to the chamber for right and left rounds feeding from the magazine?

Darwinsmistake
May 29, 2017, 02:07
Here is the only pic I have atm of my Century arms chamber and feed ramp. I can provide more when I get home. But this won't be for a few days.

<a href="https://ibb.co/futT0v"><img src="https://preview.ibb.co/ibwgLv/20170526_222235_1.jpg" alt="20170526_222235_1" border="0"></a><br /><a target='_blank' href='https://imgbb.com/'>online safety pics</a><br />


Just so everyone is clear I have had no failures to feed only failures to eject. And with so working with the gas system the rifle has worked flawlessly with 200 plus rounds with inch mags. I was having a failure to strip the next round off the top of mags. That was due to them being poorly assembled metric mags. The inch mags have given me no issues.

yellowhand
May 29, 2017, 03:25
Someone mentioned they were looking for complete wood sets?????:D

Are you wanting regular hand guards or a laminated set?

Darwinsmistake
May 29, 2017, 04:11
I don't really care. I just would like matching. But I am trying to figure out if this rifle is even worth it atm?

So until I figure that out everything to be purchased for this L1A1 is on hold. I may junk it out completely and consider it a lesson learned.

hkshooter
May 29, 2017, 07:56
I don't really care. I just would like matching. But I am trying to figure out if this rifle is even worth it atm?

So until I figure that out everything to be purchased for this L1A1 is on hold. I may junk it out completely and consider it a lesson learned.

"Junk out"? Nah, "part out".
The kit is worth money and I'd recommend rebuilding it on an inch cut IMBEL.
Your feed ramp should look like this.
http://www.artofthehammer.com/fal_web/ramps_chamber.jpg

Another, unmodified unibrow.
https://www.arizonaresponsesystems.com/notes/notes-fal-rev-cai/notes-fal-rev-cai-02.jpg

Yours looks like someone tried to modify it to work. Usually doesn't cure the beast.

Darwinsmistake
May 29, 2017, 13:08
Okay so I need a new reciever. Even though this one is working for me but I don't know for how long. Who can pull the barrel and put it all back together? Sounds like more trouble than what it's worth.

The funny thing is I purchased this knowing Centuries reputation . But never knew about the feed ramps.
I will never make the same mistake again...

Timmo
May 29, 2017, 15:37
Your posts are honest questions looking for honest answers. That is absolutely fine.

If you want to see what qualifies as the OTHER kind of post/questions, might I suggest this thread? :biggrin: http://www.falfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=415144

That was a great thread mate and I almost lost my first coffee of the morning laughing at your photos ... thanks for starting my day with a smile

PvtJoker
May 29, 2017, 16:32
That was a great thread mate and I almost lost my first coffee of the morning laughing at your photos ... thanks for starting my day with a smile

:wink: Glad to be of service.

yellowhand
May 29, 2017, 16:49
Okay so I need a new reciever. Even though this one is working for me but I don't know for how long. Who can pull the barrel and put it all back together? Sounds like more trouble than what it's worth.

The funny thing is I purchased this knowing Centuries reputation . But never knew about the feed ramps.
I will never make the same mistake again...

Does your rifle work properly, ya say it does, great!

Does it hit what ya aim at?

That's all any rifle really does, as in, it works and hits whatever ya shooting at.

Add a flash hider, some wood, get rid of the thumb hole crap, and shoot that sucker till ya shoulder hurts!:D

Gunplumber here on FF, Arizona Response System on the internet can do anything you decide you need done to your rifle.

But if it works, add some wood, clean it up a little and just shoot it!

hkshooter
May 29, 2017, 19:06
Okay so I need a new reciever. Even though this one is working for me but I don't know for how long.

I'm sorry, I thought I was replying to the thread about a rifle that didn't work. If this one works, by all means leave it together. My mistake.

yellowhand
May 29, 2017, 20:00
Okay so I need a new reciever. Even though this one is working for me but I don't know for how long. Who can pull the barrel and put it all back together? Sounds like more trouble than what it's worth.

The funny thing is I purchased this knowing Centuries reputation . But never knew about the feed ramps.
I will never make the same mistake again...


""Even though this one is working for me but I don't know for how long.""


You ever get a way to determine this, patent the process and make a billion bucks!:bow::bow::bow:

Darwinsmistake
May 30, 2017, 00:23
I'm sorry, I thought I was replying to the thread about a rifle that didn't work. If this one works, by all means leave it together. My mistake.

It still has issues. First failure to feed since I thought I had it working. Shoved a fmj right back into the casing
Sorry that is why I decided to either get a new reciever or just dump the rifle all together. I have been trying to limit my posts here so not to be irritating. And I should have explained why I was looking for a receiver. I had it working perfectly I thought but then experienced more issues.

To be fair on everyone who have tried to help with this rifle I would rather just correct the issue and find a receiver therefore not wasting everyone's time. To be honest the help here was way more than expected. And I have to return the favor.

I found several Fal receivers but no inch pattern. Recievers range between 250 and 450 then I have to figure in the cost to transfer barrel and other items to the new receiever. Since I do not have the tooling or know how I have to figure in the cost of this service.

Truth be known I have learned enough to at least not get burned again on receivers . There are a bunch of Century recievers on Gun broker. None showing feedramps which I understand now.

meltblown
May 30, 2017, 00:28
Call me a traditionalist, but to me, inch pattern rifles look best the way God meant them to be: rubbed walnut furniture and parked metal.

Leave the plastic tacticool crap to the AR and AK crowd.

I normally don't comment of L1A1 forums, but scannin the thread and seeing "rubbed wood" made me pause. :uhoh:

Darwinsmistake
May 30, 2017, 00:40
I am going to ask what I already kind of know to be a stupid question. Why can't one round or smooth off the edge of the bottom of the chamber so rounds don't catch the bottom lip when being fed into a chamber? What is the downside of doing this? I am sure someone has tried this? The round I had that failed caught the bottom edge of the chamber.

Darwinsmistake
May 30, 2017, 00:57
Rubbed wood I would normally laugh at. Truly
I would actually love to laugh. I have dumped money into a rifle that is a real headache. I could have skipped all this if I had just done my homework. Smart guy normally. But pulling hair out with so many questions. I don't wish to purchase a Metric reciever as I just bought a DS arms. So I wish to rebuild this one. But is it worth the costs? Probably not. I thought I had worked it all out and now I could just purchase "Rubbed wood" and call it good


Truly is a buyer beware market.

Conagher
May 30, 2017, 02:43
Okay so I need a new reciever. Even though this one is working for me but I don't know for how long. Who can pull the barrel and put it all back together? Sounds like more trouble than what it's worth.

I have all the FAL building tools to time your barrel onto a new receiver, if that is the route you end up going. I'm over by Pendleton, OR, so not that far away from you.

A good L1A1 is a nice model to have in your FAL collection.

Let me know if I can be of any help.

Darwinsmistake
May 30, 2017, 03:05
I have all the FAL building tools to time your barrel onto a new receiver, if that is the route you end up going. I'm over by Pendleton, OR, so not that far away from you.

A good L1A1 is a nice model to have in your FAL collection.

Let me know if I can be of any help. That's what I plan on doing. I am looking at 450.00 for a L1A1 reciever. Coonan (I believe I spelled it correctly) seems to be the only source atm. Still looking. Thank you for the offer.

MAINER
May 30, 2017, 08:07
I would urge you to do your homework on a Coonan receiver. There are several issues that you may or not know about. The first one is that Coonan's customer service suks!
After that there is the somewhat annoying tab issue that leaves a gap between the Receiver and the Bolt/Carrier giving the impression the Bolt isn't closed.
Then, there is the problem with the Mag Well being out of spec making it difficult to lock a mag in place.

Gunplumber has written this up in a post somewhere, but I'm too lazy to look it up. :D
It may be on his website, donno.

Bottom line, ditto on try to find an L1A1 modified Imbel. May not be easy, but it will work.

Do not hesitate to post questions here. Not much opportunity to talk RiFALs anymore these days. Keeps the place from turning into a Moldy Geezer Social Club. :beer:

Conagher
May 30, 2017, 10:33
I would call DSArms and see if they have any L1A1 receivers left. I bought mine a few weeks ago, and just started on it last night, by installing a DSArms L1A1 charging handle, and the BHO and mag release into the receiver. So far, everything is going together great.

OLDMANPBK
May 30, 2017, 10:41
I would call DSArms and see if they have any L1A1 receivers left. I bought mine a few weeks ago, and just started on it last night, by installing a DSArms L1A1 charging handle, and the BHO and mag release into the receiver. So far, everything is going together great.

How tight is the mag well? That's where the problem seems to be on these.

Conagher
May 30, 2017, 11:00
I haven't gotten to that point yet. I ordered a #8 .060 breeching ​washer from ARS last week so I can install the barrel and then I can check the head spacing to determine which size of LS I need.

OLDMANPBK
May 30, 2017, 11:40
You should test fit a mag before you do anything else. You may have to send the receiver back to DSA (like me).

Conagher
May 30, 2017, 16:20
You should test fit a mag before you do anything else. You may have to send the receiver back to DSA (like me).

I will definitely check that out after work. I hope it works without any issues.

Conagher
May 30, 2017, 19:19
A regular L1A1 mag and a Moses Mag, both fit fine in the mag well of this DSA Brit receiver.

OLDMANPBK
May 30, 2017, 19:26
Glad to hear it. They must have let some good ones slip through. :)

sharkey
May 30, 2017, 22:20
Send it to Gunplumber. He has alot of experience with this platform.

yellowhand
May 30, 2017, 22:54
Platform;

<a href="http://photobucket.com/images/loading%20platform" target="_blank"><img src="http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd249/pixel-brabbitt/train%20trip/IMG_1035.jpg" border="0" alt="loading platform photo: Loading Chicago IMG_1035.jpg"/></a>


Rifle;

<a href="http://photobucket.com/images/rifle" target="_blank"><img src="http://i359.photobucket.com/albums/oo34/hardono_ang/airsoft%20guns%20blog/airsoft-sniper-rifle-1.png" border="0" alt="rifle photo: Airsoft Sniper Rifle airsoft-sniper-rifle-1.png"/></a>

Woman;

<a href="http://photobucket.com/images/woman" target="_blank"><img src="http://i521.photobucket.com/albums/w331/poli_66/ff.jpg" border="0" alt="woman photo: woman ff.jpg"/></a>

Darwinsmistake
May 31, 2017, 00:40
The dealer I purchased it from is taking care of it at his expense.

Also looking at some of the fals in the marketplace and I am going to pull the trigger on one of them. Just need to figure out which one is the best buy?

Darwinsmistake
May 31, 2017, 00:41
Platform;

<a href="http://photobucket.com/images/loading%20platform" target="_blank"><img src="http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd249/pixel-brabbitt/train%20trip/IMG_1035.jpg" border="0" alt="loading platform photo: Loading Chicago IMG_1035.jpg"/></a>


Rifle;

<a href="http://photobucket.com/images/rifle" target="_blank"><img src="http://i359.photobucket.com/albums/oo34/hardono_ang/airsoft%20guns%20blog/airsoft-sniper-rifle-1.png" border="0" alt="rifle photo: Airsoft Sniper Rifle airsoft-sniper-rifle-1.png"/></a>

Woman;

<a href="http://photobucket.com/images/woman" target="_blank"><img src="http://i521.photobucket.com/albums/w331/poli_66/ff.jpg" border="0" alt="woman photo: woman ff.jpg"/></a>

Woman looks dangerous. Which leaves me with no choice but to take the train and grab my rifle..

yellowhand
May 31, 2017, 01:14
:D

TenTea
May 31, 2017, 06:04
Woman looks dangerous. Which leaves me with no choice but to take the train and grab my rifle..

https://st.hzcdn.com/simgs/5af119b10261da3b_4-6477/contemporary-prints-and-posters.jpg

Danielsand
June 02, 2017, 23:05
Newbie here (I introduced myself over on FN forum,....in error! :facepalm:). So what rights a newbie has to reply to anything, you ask?

Well,...I'm new to FALs, have only one (oh horror!) L1A1 bastard, (FrankenFAL, Mutt, or whatever you want to call it), but I've been around firearms my whole life (both parents career military), and me for 24 years.

Shooting, tinkering, "collecting", since kindergarten.

Anyway. Wanted to chime in regarding CAI. "Drunk monkeys", "Angry Beavers"....and otherwise known as Century Arms International. I am not a "fanboy", just want to share my experiences. I've heard tons of horror stories about CAI (I was very active on several gunboards in the past), and I believe them, however..........I have CETME assembled by them, and L1A1 FAL (B60 Brit kit, Imbel inch pattern receiver, Canadian lower, and metric magwell). Both rifles are SWEET shooters, and there is no issues with either.

So,.....CAI is "hit and miss" for sure, but there must be a lot more "hits" than "mises" because they put tons of milsurp on the market, and very limited number of owners are actually on these boards, and a small percentage of them have issues.

Another thing,......CAI does NOT produce "collectible" rifles. They never did, and they never will. But they are doing a tremendous service to the shooting public, by bringing to market affordable military armament, that most of us would not be able to own otherwise.

Some like the newly produced copies of the military arms, ....I like the fact that at least PARTS of my rifles saw the actual military quartermasters, and maybe even some action.

CAI stuff is almost like a lottery. You might get a good one (Hurrah!), or you might end up tinkering with it. Either way, it's a bargain.