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madmax_fal
May 16, 2017, 08:58
As many of you know, G3 wood stock sets can be had for about $55 USD pre shipping, from Germany. I am trying to get a few people to ship them over here to me, but they tell me that it is illegal to export "firearms parts" Is this just their ignorance or are they correct in telling me that it would be illegal for them to send wood stocks sets to the US?

Albatross52
May 16, 2017, 10:35
It is not illegal. Certain automatic parts or receivers are not for export, but I have been buying optics and furniture for the last 2 years now. As long as the value is less than $1000 US Customs has no issues either.
Travis

hkshooter
May 16, 2017, 10:40
The problem isn't us it's the German govt. Take it up with them for they are the ones putting the kabosh on exporting surplus.

Albatross52
May 16, 2017, 10:54
It is the responsibility of the seller on the German side to complete an "end user agreement" just like we have to do to buy US military surplus. I bought 2 HUMVEE's and it took almost 7 months before they were actually delivered. End user time frame in Germany is 60-90 days. I buy from friends, family and ebay sellers in Germany at least once a month.
Travis

HK556WI
May 17, 2017, 06:39
Albatross52 is completely correct. It is the paper work in Germany that holds up the transaction. I have imported many scopes and SG1 stocks. The paperwork is always the hold up.

K.O.A.M.
May 17, 2017, 08:41
If someone has a reliable guy in Germany that they use, I'd love to know who it is. I'm trying to get ahold of some MAC 1950 pistol magazines and no one in Germany seems willing to export.

Albatross52
May 17, 2017, 12:34
If someone has a reliable guy in Germany that they use, I'd love to know who it is. I'm trying to get ahold of some MAC 1950 pistol magazines and no one in Germany seems willing to export.

I may have one, give me some time to do some digging.

madmax_fal
May 18, 2017, 16:41
Ok, here is the whole story: Zib Millitaria has G3 stocks for roughly $54 USD pre shipping. http://www.zib-militaria.de/G3-stock-set-Holz But they don't ship to the US.

I found the website called http://www.Parcl.com where people in other countries can charge a small fee to ship item to the US that companies will not. I asked all the people in Germany and the UN countries that Zib ships to if they would ship some G3 wood for me, and every single forwarder turned me down. I even offered to pay extra, but in every case they told me that it was illegal or just "not the best thing to do because of everything going on in the world"

:facepalm:

K. Funk
May 18, 2017, 17:10
See if Paco can get them out of Germany and then ship it to you. I have purchased K98 stocks out of Germany using a connection in the Netherlands to ship them here.

krf

Albatross52
May 18, 2017, 17:10
Ok, here is the whole story: Zib Millitaria has G3 stocks for roughly $54 USD pre shipping. http://www.zib-militaria.de/G3-stock-set-Holz But they don't ship to the US.

I found the website called http://www.Parcl.com where people in other countries can charge a small fee to ship item to the US that companies will not. I asked all the people in Germany and the UN countries that Zib ships to if they would ship some G3 wood for me, and every single forwarder turned me down. I even offered to pay extra, but in every case they told me that it was illegal or just "not the best thing to do because of everything going on in the world"

:facepalm:

I may be able to help you. I'll PM you.
Travis

madmax_fal
May 18, 2017, 17:17
I may be able to help you. I'll PM you.
Travis

Thanks for the offer! I already found what I`m looking for, but not at the price I was wanting to pay. I`m not in the market anymore, but I appreciate your willingness to help!

Albatross52
May 18, 2017, 17:45
This is one of the two Hensoldt/Wetzlar ZF24's I received from Germany. The look brand new. I got two of these for the cost of one here in the US.
http://i.imgur.com/2Pu6Etpl.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/L9bQXxDl.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/x0WlpX3l.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/wYGz0YEl.jpg

hkshooter
May 18, 2017, 17:50
This is one of the two Hensoldt/Wetzlar ZF24's I received from Germany. The look brand new. I got two of these for the cost of one here in the US.
http://i.imgur.com/2Pu6Etpl.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/L9bQXxDl.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/x0WlpX3l.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/wYGz0YEl.jpg

Good for you, want a cookie?

In all seriousness, though, some of us have tried to buy simple items like your scopes and G3 wood from Germany but have run into a brick wall. That you know people who will pull it off for you means squat to the average Joe who would like a similar deal. So unless you are willing to be the middle man and offer up your services for people here so they can take advantage of the availability and prices like you do, your input on the subject is nothing more than anecdotal, IMO.

Albatross52
May 18, 2017, 17:59
Good for you, want a cookie?

In all seriousness, though, some of us have tried to buy simple items like your scopes and G3 wood from Germany but have run into a brick wall. That you know people who will pull it off for you means squat to the average Joe who would like a similar deal. So unless you are willing to be the middle man and offer up your services for people here so they can take advantage of the availability and prices like you do, your input on the subject is nothing more than anecdotal, IMO.

I would not offer any service to a smartass lil prick with a loud mouth like you. Maybe a different approach would have paid off for you. So IMO, you can **** OFF and hunt for them on ebay and gunbroker dick head. It's asswholes like you that corrupt these forums. You act like a kid that didn't get any ice cream.
Travis

hkshooter
May 18, 2017, 18:14
I would not offer any service to a smartass lil prick with a loud mouth like you. Maybe a different approach would have paid off for you. So IMO, you can **** OFF and hunt for them on ebay and gunbroker dick head. It's asswholes like you that corrupt these forums. You act like a kid that didn't get any ice cream.
Travis

Wow, you went right for the high road there didn't you, Ace? Got a little sand in your mangina today? Your wife spit it back into your mouth?

Thanks, I got a healthy belly laugh out of that one! :biggrin: It's really a bit sad, not long ago I held a much higher opinion of you. Oh well, win some, lose some.

Albatross52
May 18, 2017, 18:20
I should apologize for that rant, but I will not. In the past 2 1/2 years this has been the hardest part of adjusting to civilian life. Your join date was 2002, lets see,I was in Saudi Arabia in January 02, 20 years in already, just got there from Somalia, and headed straight into Iraq. So while you found your new forum to play on, I was trying to get a freakin phone call to my wife and kids. So my patients is kinda short with smart asses. I try very hard to live a peaceful lifestyle, and share some knowledge and also gain some too.
Travis

hkshooter
May 18, 2017, 18:33
I should apologize for that rant, but I will not. In the past 2 1/2 years this has been the hardest part of adjusting to civilian life. Your join date was 2002, lets see,I was in Saudi Arabia in January 02, 20 years in already, just got there from Somalia, and headed straight into Iraq. So while you found your new forum to play on, I was trying to get a freakin phone call to my wife and kids. So my patients is kinda short with smart asses. I try very hard to live a peaceful lifestyle, and share some knowledge and also gain some too.
Travis


By 2002 my stint in the Navy was long over, my time fulfilled. So, yeah, I was learning a new trade and attempting to figure out how the internet worked while you were in the sand box. I'll give you credit where it's due, I admire you gear hauling grunts in the sand for your balls and true grit. All I did was lob 5 inch shells on the horizon and launch missiles at targets that I could never see and that could never shoot back.
We all have our crosses to bear, my friend.
If I poked you a little too hard I meant no harm but this is just the internet and life is far to short to get bent over a single thing on it.

And to think I was hoping to acquire some of your excellent HK woodwork at some point. :facepalm:
Does this mean I can delete your number from my phone's contact list? :rolleyes:

Albatross52
May 18, 2017, 18:34
Ok, I won't argue the point any longer. It is the volume and type of part. Check out international sellers on ebay, search hensoldt. They have been at it for a while.
Thanks for the therapy session HK shooter, That was easier than driving to the V.A., so as usual maybe I am the dick here. SEE therapy works. I'll have a beer and a xanax now.
Travis

Albatross52
May 18, 2017, 18:39
Not at all brother, not at all. would be glad to share. Bad days are getting further apart. Nothing but respect for a man that lives on a few thousand square yards of US sovereign property for months at a time.
Travis

hkshooter
May 18, 2017, 18:41
Bad days are getting further apart.
Travis

This is good. Carry on, it does get better.

Albatross52
May 18, 2017, 19:12
This is good. Carry on, it does get better.

Thank you HKshooter. I was going to PM you with an apology. I am short in the temperament section, but huge on pride, so this serves better publicly. I apologize for taking your post out of context.
With that being behind us, I am doing a pile of HK wood conversions at this time and would be glad to trade parts with members here and hkpro.
Travis

meltblown
May 18, 2017, 20:08
Albatross and HK need to get a room with a case of beer and a couple of hookers.:D

eternal24k
May 18, 2017, 21:49
It is not illegal. Certain automatic parts or receivers are not for export, but I have been buying optics and furniture for the last 2 years now. As long as the value is less than $1000 US Customs has no issues either.
Travis

You are a bit off. It's $100.

I have imported gun parts from all over the world, there's 2 ways of doing it, 1) the proper paperwork (Form 5330, it takes a couple months)
2) importing it and hoping it doesn't get caught up in customs




Pursuant to 27 CFR 447.41(c),
an import permit is not required for th
e importation of
5.The U.S. Munitions Import List articles from Canada, except articles enumerated in Categories I, II, III, IV, VI(e), VIII(a), and XX, and Nuclear weapons strategic delivery systems and all specifically designed components,
parts, accessories, attachments, and associated equi
pment thereof (see Category XXI), or Minor components
and parts for Category I(a) and I(b) firearms except barrels, cylinders, receivers (frames) or complete breech mechanisms, when the total value does not exceed $100 wholesale in any single transaction.

eternal24k
May 18, 2017, 21:55
If you ever in encounter the US customs, they will tell you it is illegal to import or export these items.



Trust me..... been there, done that.


They want you to go through a importer or exporter.

Its not hard to import, you just need to fill out a 5330, then they will give it back to you with all kinds of fun stamps :|

http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z152/eternal24k/Capture_zps5bql5ojs.png (http://s193.photobucket.com/user/eternal24k/media/Capture_zps5bql5ojs.png.html)

meltblown
May 18, 2017, 22:08
Its not hard to import, you just need to fill out a 5330, then they will give it back to you with all kinds of fun stamps :|

http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z152/eternal24k/Capture_zps5bql5ojs.png (http://s193.photobucket.com/user/eternal24k/media/Capture_zps5bql5ojs.png.html)

Appreciate the info. Courtesy of the Bush regime

Rudolf
May 28, 2017, 02:00
COuld this be a service?

It's easy to ship to Hungary and maybe for a small fee , I would be happy to ship it to the US.
:?:?

I've done this with some stuff I wanted but never as a business.

randy762ak
May 28, 2017, 08:33
This is one of the two Hensoldt/Wetzlar ZF24's I received from Germany. The look brand new. I got two of these for the cost of one here in the US.
http://i.imgur.com/2Pu6Etpl.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/L9bQXxDl.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/x0WlpX3l.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/wYGz0YEl.jpg



I would VERY MUCH like one of these scopes for My HK-91 and would be very grateful to anyone who could hook me up at a price thats affordable [Knowing HK stuff is never actually affordable ] and Not HKParts.net priceing !!! My e-mail is my handle at Yahoo.com or PM me Please --! Thanks and Nice outfit BTW..