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3Gunnah
May 08, 2017, 11:39
Century Arms l1a1 Sporter I picked up is actually half L1A1 and a half FAL. The front half being metric. I would like a good location to purchase a New, New Old Stock or an excellent condition used L1A1 barrel with gas block and flash hider for my current gun. I have found several around but either the description is poor and the pictures suck, or the pictures are really good but the outside of the barrel looks horrible and no one shows pictures of the bore. Your thoughts or experiences would be helpful thank you.

W.E.G.
May 08, 2017, 13:23
This one looks decent: http://www.gunbroker.com/item/643970809

W.E.G.
May 08, 2017, 13:25
This one complete with gas block more $$$

http://www.gunbroker.com/item/644466844

3Gunnah
May 08, 2017, 13:40
W.E.G. I was looking at the one in your second post last night on GunBroker, it says no serious pitting visible. My Gunbroker account is having an issue right now. I cannot send the seller an email to ask a question, And I'm concerned...... does that mean that there is minor pitting visible. It's just tough to buy a used Barrel without putting your hands on it.

W.E.G.
May 08, 2017, 14:06
You could post a WTB ad in the Marketplace forum here.

That would give you a little more control over the final product if you aren't in a rush for somebody to cough one up.

sparkeyboaz
May 08, 2017, 14:37
You could post a WTB ad in the Marketplace forum here.

That would give you a little more control over the final product if you aren't in a rush for somebody to cough one up.

I agree with W.E.G.
On Gunbroker you may get lucky, may not!
Post a Want to Buy here in the MarketPlace and express your concerns on barrel condition.
Some people have the gages for T/E and M/E and will post those readings. Others, well thats a good question.
Placing a bullet in the bore end of the barrel and saying it passes the "Bullet Test" isn't a real measure of barrel condition.
There are British and Aussie barrels out there waiting for a new owner. You just have to find the person willing to sell and express the actual condition of "both" ends of the barrel in relation to "Erosion"
Thats why I bought both gages and evaluate all my 30 cal bbls acordingly!
Good luck and stick to your plan if you want the better barrel for your build.
BTW, both of the gages cost under $100 together but was money well spent!
You ever see the old guys at the Local Gun Show walking around with their 30 cal bore gage in their hand or pocket?
They do it for the same reason. There are alot of "Tomatoe Stakes" out there being passed off as good barrels!
Sellers tend to use "bullet test"
Buyers should use M/E and T/E gages!
Sparkeyboaz

D. Lehrman
May 08, 2017, 20:53
There are still new ones out there too, but I can't see wasting that kind of coin on ressurrection of a Century anything. Just get semi-legit TE and ME....but be aware there aren't any "real" FAL TE gauges out there except in rare circumstance...most just use a GI one or something designed for other guns. I sort of laugh to see the gospel according to one of those.

Bore scope is the only "real" way to do it = a lot happens between one end and the other too. Color me twice as picky as you...

Good luck. AND I do understand the screw jobs awaiting in many of the internet dark corners. Difficult to deal with anyone I don't or haven't known for a long time on things like barrels.

msnyder
May 08, 2017, 23:04
Re the $275 barrel, seller is a member here. Send him a PM. Aezcur.

Thorack
May 09, 2017, 10:16
Well,

Last NEW, as in uninstalled barrel, I've seen for sale was an Aussie Lithgow/Black Mountain match barrel that sold for over $700 a few years ago.

Even the like new surplus barrels go for over $300 or up to $500 depending on condition and manufacturer.

The SLR5000 US made barrels go for $300.

Thorack

Trypcil
May 09, 2017, 10:31
Ernst!

msnyder
May 09, 2017, 11:24
Ernst!

Ernst Armory is out of stock. http://shop.ernstarmory.com/category.sc?categoryId=46

3Gunnah
May 09, 2017, 12:23
I just ordered from Ernst they were great to deal with! But no barrels. So what is the "as new" steyr barrel on my gun worth?

Thorack
May 09, 2017, 13:55
Well,

I have seen EXC+++ or like new Steyr barrel that was unserialized with an E stamp go for $500.

Thorack

3Gunnah
May 09, 2017, 16:50
Well,

I have seen EXC+++ or like new Steyr barrel that was unserialized with an E stamp go for $500.

Thorack

I am not sure about the E stamp. Although I do have pictures of the markings on the barrel. Although I am unable to post them here for some reason. But the barrel on my gun is not serial number and I would say is 98% condition other than a small amount of finish wear from a $20 bipod that was clamped onto the barrel and slid back and forth. The inside is absolutely perfect. Maybe I would have better luck trading my barrel assembly for a barrel assembly.

D. Lehrman
May 11, 2017, 17:51
I just ordered from Ernst they were great to deal with! But no barrels. So what is the "as new" steyr barrel on my gun worth?

Uncut and properly factory threaded at the muzzle end? Century and "as new" kind of an oxymoron. Not many that they haven't in some way bubbified.

Really depends a lot on the current condition of every aspect of the barrel.

3Gunnah
May 11, 2017, 18:21
Uncut and properly factory threaded at the muzzle end? Century and "as new" kind of an oxymoron. Not many that they haven't in some way bubbified.

Really depends a lot on the current condition of every aspect of the barrel.

If I could post pictures I would show this is literally an unmolested, factory threaded, perfect bore and the finish would be perfect except for a 3-inch area of the finish being worn from a cheap bipod. No Century Arms markings at all on the barrel. Markings on barrel BH (backwards 3) STEYR in a little target 7.62x51 stlf3 and what looks like a proof mark of some sort.*

hkshooter
May 11, 2017, 20:24
If I could post pictures I would show this is literally an unmolested, factory threaded, perfect bore and the finish would be perfect except for a 3-inch area of the finish being worn from a cheap bipod. No Century Arms markings at all on the barrel. Markings on barrel BH (backwards 3) STEYR in a little target 7.62x51 stlf3 and what looks like a proof mark of some sort.*

If you are interested I could host the pics for you. PM for details.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v298/hkshooter/IMG_2365_zps959g3g0v.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/hkshooter/media/IMG_2365_zps959g3g0v.jpg.html)
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D. Lehrman
May 11, 2017, 23:01
Lessee' unda' that combo device and the barrel after removal at the chamber end?

Century that's a bad thing in my book and if the barrel perfect full length as issued StG...I have major concerns as it'd not be typical or ever before exhibited.

I'd ask in what state you originally purchased the item. With those receiver markings slim to no chance it was sent out after the ban on features had it's sunset. I'm suggesting and wondering if it had been rebarreled before it came to your hands here. Imbel receivers as marked were almost always, if not exclusively, ban era assembly and not after the ban sunset, and not a preban assembly by them in any stretch of imagination. Rebarreled gun is indicated if perfect state at both end...full length 21" and factory muzzle threading, etc definitely not Century as shipped item. Pretty straight forward, one or the other. If it's a good StG not messed with barrel, Century had no hand in making it that way....if it is Century assembled as sold...the barrel has been at least rethreaded under the combo device.

3Gunnah
May 12, 2017, 07:17
As far as I can tell it is a 100% original unmodified barrel. I unscrewed the muzzle device and it is left hand thread and it appears to be factory threading job to me. I have sent one more photo to HK shooter who has been extremely helpful with the pictures.

hkshooter
May 12, 2017, 08:17
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v298/hkshooter/20170512_063429_zpsxmlu1bfk.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/hkshooter/media/20170512_063429_zpsxmlu1bfk.jpg.html)

D. Lehrman
May 12, 2017, 08:26
Then like I said....highly likely the gun went through other hands that changed out to the barrel in the pic. Century didn't build it that way, if threaded that nicely at the muzzle and full length. They were WAY past the dot matrix marked Imbels referenced in your previous pics before they no longer needed to crudely neuter the threads in the pic above. When it left Century it would have had one of those unltra-nice thumbhole buttstocks and gawd knows what for a muzzle chop job.

S'all the interest I can generate today, best wishes at getting where you'd like with it,

sparkeyboaz
May 12, 2017, 09:10
It appears that with the barrel on your Imbel type 3 receiver that you have one of the best Metric barrels out there. That is subject to the condition.
The 7.62 x51 St Lf 3 indicates it is a hammer forged barrel and it doesn't get much better!
It would be far easier to complete your rifle as a complete Metric version.
You have alot more options with furniture from DSA U.S. made to Penguin, U.S. made, to original plastic or wood. Then you get into the custom fancy wood you see made by some of the members here. Sky is the limit!%"
The Metric fire control parts are cheaper in U.S. config and you can even get a Falcon trigger pull reduction kit.
You also have a good start on an Inch pattern rifle but will pay far more trying to find an Inch pattern barrel assembly for less than you can get the needed Metric lower assy.
I am in no way knocking Inch pattern rifles!
I like them too. It just can get expensive quick trying to find VG to NOS parts and then you still need to install bbl and set headspace!
I have a 16" Aussie bbl that I had rethreaded for the flash hider complete, refinished that will be available. Also could help w some of the Metric parts but you may do better buying a complete lower assy.
Sparkeyboaz/

hkshooter
May 12, 2017, 18:24
. So what is the "as new" steyr barrel on my gun worth?

$250

3Gunnah
May 12, 2017, 19:07
$250

Thanks

And Thank You for your help with the pictures!