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Fleabus
April 25, 2017, 07:08
Getting back interest in revolvers.
Saw a N frame and couldn't overcome
Nostalgia. Model 28 smith 4 inch.
My 1st handgun at 15 was a nib 38
Diamondback 4 inch for 175$ in 1974.
2 yrs later a python 4 inch for 275$ nib.
Many more since then have passed thru my hands
That I wish I still had.
Those 1st 2 funded my long distance
Courtship to my 31+ yrs wife so they went
For a good cause still miss them so
Couldn't overcome the 28 urge 375$ in
95+ % shape
Anyone else wanna comment on
Classic smith or other wheel gun
Recent or working acquisitions.

TenTea
April 25, 2017, 07:19
You nearly stole a 28 for that price.

I've had Smith Fever come and go several times in my life.
I've here recently gotten over another relapse, early in 2017.

10 ~ 14 ~ 17 ~ 28 ~ ...all from the 50's & 60's which were good times at S&W, imho.

Fleabus
April 25, 2017, 08:19
Yeah so I sent and just yesterday got the 4th
Standard catalog Smiths book 2016 edition
The 28 dates 1978-1980 production
Love the pinned and recessed oldies
Mausers, ak's, fals, now old handguns again.
These days handguns easier to handle for older
Farts like me.
The recent smith 539 dates to 1981 by the smith book
Believe or not having a thought about model 10s
4 inch pencil barrels being so classic smith
Or something similar
I need to get out and hit our so ga pawn shops
Suprises may lurk there....

Fleabus
April 25, 2017, 09:02
Feeling chatty regarding Smiths
Years ago had 2 model 29s a 8&3/8 with a 2x leupold
I rarely used and a 6 inch 1987 issue 6 inch silhouette front sight model I bought from across the country
Riding 4 wheeler one hunting weekend bud on the back
Deer jumped up 20 yards ahead on the woods trail
Just scouting only gun was my 6 inch smith
Bud pounding my back gimme that gun
He heads,into hardwood bottom I say I'll go ahead and try to flush deer towards you down in the bottom
Told him hold at 6 o'clock on 240 Hardcast loads of mine
10 minutes later Boom
As I walk in to find him big doe down him hollering I can't believe I killed a deer with this pistol
Slug passed thru front gtr and out opposite hind gtr
Next yr he shows up with 6 inch 29 stainless classic
A new smith convert
Great memories

TenTea
April 25, 2017, 09:22
I shot my first S&W revolver (K38 Masterpiece) when visiting logging camps in the Cascade and Coast Range mountains of Oregon, years ago.

Bawana jim
April 25, 2017, 10:47
Smith makes the best double action revolver in my opinion, I really like em. Colts are beautiful and shoot real straight but it takes a gun smith to keep them running. My favorite smith is the 25 in 45acp auto rim. It's the most accurate revolver I own and I killed my first deer with a handgun useing the 25.

Really like all the Smith revolvers.:bow:

tdb59
April 25, 2017, 10:53
Smith makes the best double action revolver in my opinion, I really like em. Colts are beautiful and shoot real straight but it takes a gun smith to keep them running. My favorite smith is the 25 in 45acp auto rim. It's the most accurate revolver I own and I killed my first deer with a handgun useing the 25.

Really like all the Smith revolvers.:bow:

How do you like this, Jim ?

A rather uncommon one, and I could not resist.


http://i.imgur.com/MYVBdO1h.jpg


http://i.imgur.com/b9wpOsoh.jpg



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Bawana jim
April 25, 2017, 10:58
How do you like this, Jim ?

A rather uncommon one, and I could not resist


...................

I have one of those Terry, got it from S&M gun shop in Eugene when they first came out. Packed it fishing in snake country many times and they are great guns. Glad to see you got one, they are rare.

TenTea
April 25, 2017, 11:19
My favorite smith is the 25 in 45acp auto rim. It's the most accurate revolver I own and I killed my first deer with a handgun useing the 25.

Really like all the Smith revolvers.:bow:

Me too.

Mine is a *pre-25*...Model of 1955 Target with a 6.5 inch barrel. :)
I have a pile-o-moon clips but usually use .45 AutoRim brass for my SWC handloads.

Bawana jim
April 25, 2017, 11:29
Me too.

Mine is a *pre-25*...Model of 1955 Target with a 6.5 inch barrel. :)
I have a pile-o-moon clips but usually use .45 AutoRim brass for my SWC handloads.

I use 5.6 of 231 and a 200 grain lswc in 45 auto cases., it's nice to not chase brass...:biggrin: I load my hunting loads in the auto rim cases and they are a bit stout. The 5.6 load shoots straight in auto or revolver.

TenTea
April 25, 2017, 11:42
I use 5.6 of 231 and a 200 grain lswc in 45 auto cases., it's nice to not chase brass...:biggrin: I load my hunting loads in the auto rim cases and they are a bit stout. The 5.6 load shoots straight in auto or revolver.

That seems a little warm (or I'm a wuss :wink:) but I have found great SWC loads with Tin Star, Unique, W231 and American Select.
Seems like 4.5 GR American Select is the sweet spot with that powder and also the Tin Star.

W.E.G.
April 25, 2017, 11:45
Out of the way!

Stinkbutt coming through!!!

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd7/rkba2da/pistol%20pics/686-5/stinkbutt-smaller.jpg

Bawana jim
April 25, 2017, 11:53
That seems a little warm (or I'm a wuss :wink:) but I have found great SWC loads with Tin Star, Unique, W231 and American Select.
Seems like 4.5 GR American Select is the sweet spot with that powder and also the Tin Star.

5.6 of 231 will cycle reliable a 1911 and I like being able to use the same ammo for both guns. I really like the 45 because of so many reasons. Light to carry, muzzle blast isn't near the 357, fast reloads with moon clips, low recoil for fast recovery, interchange of ammo with autos and plenty of power for all but the biggest animals.

Over the years smith has made some great 25s and none other than old what's his name set a speed record with them..Mclick..:rofl:

TenTea
April 25, 2017, 12:09
Ammo compatibility from revolver to auto is a beautiful thing for a handloader.

Did you just see Jerry around here or was it Gary? :biggrin:

http://www.everydaynodaysoff.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/Jerry-Miculek.jpg

Fleabus
April 25, 2017, 12:44
Great posts
Please keep them coming
Revolvers Rule

Fleabus
April 25, 2017, 13:12
Somehow in my gun affection
I got a large box of 45 auto rim cases yrs ago.
Gave half to my truly skillful gunsmith buddy since I didn't have a 45 to use them in. Back then 20 yrs or so 45 auto rim cases were scarce or seemed so here.
Still have some when a 45 smith comes my way.
Gotta be prepared...

TenTea
April 25, 2017, 13:21
45 AutoRim brass has been scarce in recent years too, at times...along with everything else.
Most will say it is an obsolete cartridge.
I guess we are out of the weeds for a moment, subject to change at any time.

Bawana jim
April 25, 2017, 13:29
Grafs has it..

https://www.grafs.com/retail/catalog/category/categoryId/534?

TenTea
April 25, 2017, 13:34
Grafs has it..

https://www.grafs.com/retail/catalog/category/categoryId/534?

Graf's had Krag brass earlier this year too, at long last. :biggrin:

That's been another toughy in recent years.

Bawana jim
April 25, 2017, 13:41
Around here another hard to get brass was 357 mag. It got hard to find and really expensive. Another great thing about 45 auto and auto rim is because of the low pressure it last for years. 38 and 357 split necks more often than acp or auto rim does.

Fleabus
April 25, 2017, 14:03
Say what u will 38s have probably put down more
Bad guys than others
I like 45s, 44s, and 9s but .357s have been steady
In 38 and 357 forever in my time.
I know the cute sayings about big bores and while valid
38s still carry the water when put in play.
More revolver buys please share what ya got...

W.E.G.
April 25, 2017, 14:25
From about a million years ago.

A little detail cleaning for inspection day.

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd7/rkba2da/pistol%20pics/SW%2010/reloading%20bench%20MPD%20model%2010_zpshlnh8fae.j pg

W.E.G.
April 25, 2017, 14:27
Had to turn in the one in the pic above.

Doppleganger

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd7/rkba2da/pistol%20pics/SW%2010/DSCN3018.jpg

BUFF
April 26, 2017, 00:52
I've been a S&W fan since 1975, been a member of the S&WCA since the 1990's. They put out a quarterly journal that is filled with S&W minutia and esoterica as finite and almost irrelevant to anybody. Their convention will be in Charlotte this year, I believe.

I love the Mountain Gun series. I have been able to hang onto M-625's in both .45 Colt and ACP, 629 in .44 Mag and 7 shot 686 in .357.

The Standard Catalog of S&W IV Edition by Supica and Nahas is the most inclusive, current printed source for all things S&W. If your interests are on older stuff, Neal and Jinks "S&W 1857-1945"is great. Factory Historian Roy Jinks wrote "History of S&W" published in 1977.

If you like handguns, S&W has made something for everyone.

Fleabus
April 26, 2017, 07:05
Hey WEG
Who was that masked man in the picture
Great pic and model 10 type smith
They seem so classic smith
J&G advertising 10s but I've read a less than stellar review
On one received in select pick
Seeing if other reviews show up
I'm cheap as I can be so may search local some first.

TenTea
April 26, 2017, 07:27
Who was that masked man in the picture


I think you mean mustachioed man... :biggrin:

W.E.G.
April 26, 2017, 07:59
Lot of the used 10's on the market these days are heavy-barrel.

Back in the day when I was carrying the taper-barrel in a clamshell strap-holster on a Sam Browne, I wanted a heavy-barrel in the worst way.

Finally got a heavy-barrel ($225 used - bought at the same time as the .357 stinkbutt 686). Nostalgia has me for the taper-barrel at this point.

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd7/rkba2da/pistol%20pics/SW%2010/DSCN6456smaller.jpg

Awards ceremony for actually catching some criminals.

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd7/rkba2da/people/Metropolitan%20Police%20Department%20traffic%20off icer%20of%20the%20month%201984%20photo%20-%20smaller_zpsolex18oj.jpg

TenTea
April 26, 2017, 08:37
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Awards ceremony for actually catching some criminals.

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd7/rkba2da/people/Metropolitan%20Police%20Department%20traffic%20off icer%20of%20the%20month%201984%20photo%20-%20smaller_zpsolex18oj.jpg

Great photo! :)

2 questions:

1 - Is that your holster, just visible, behind the framed award?

2 - What town was your *Metropolitan PD* in 1984?

W.E.G.
April 26, 2017, 09:06
Metropolitan Police Department District of Columbia

I don't think I have a pic of the actual cheap POS holster I was issued in 84.

The department was transitioning to "retention" holsters with new hires when I left in 86.

Here's a pic from the interwebz that is pretty close to the fine piece of kit I wore.

The one I had covered the trigger guard, and I looped the strap around the hammer to keep the gun in the holster while I was fighting or rescuing donuts.

Whoever took the pic from the interwebz seems to be clueless about retention, or that holster was never intended for the Model 10 in the pic.

http://i67.tinypic.com/2ibn380.jpg

eternal24k
April 26, 2017, 09:09
Wish these were easier to find, best trigger I have ever felt.
Killing terrorists with style since 1973

http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z152/eternal24k/14953884_10102735305901910_4918070364204831988_n_z ps7ube6egg.jpg

Would love to find one with target sights.

W.E.G.
April 26, 2017, 09:21
Now that I think back, they issued us no ammo carriers at all.

And I can't remember whether we were required to carry any extra ammo at all.

So there was a real hodgepodge of ammo holders.
Everything from bandido belt-loop contraptions with genuinely filthy and moldy bullets, to dump pouches, to every flavor of speed-loader. "Speed Strips" hadn't been invented yet. For casual carry, I really like the strips today.

I carried a couple of HKS speedloaders in flap pouches.
Pretty sure I still have the pouches and loaders in a box around here somewhere.

And a can of Mace.

A big-ass "brick" radio.

A broom-handle "baton"

And my old hardware store Buck knife, here with my old off-duty holster which did not belong to the department.

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd7/rkba2da/knives/DSCN4998_zpseq9gdpf9.jpg

Fleabus
April 26, 2017, 10:03
I respect your leo service and makes me feel for and respect the current leo community putting up
With what they go thru that does'nt make the msm news
Agenda..

TenTea
April 26, 2017, 10:17
@ W.E.G. ~ Thanks for answering my questions.

What a great classic load out of kit!

Wish these were easier to find, best trigger I have ever felt.
Killing terrorists with style since 1973

http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z152/eternal24k/14953884_10102735305901910_4918070364204831988_n_z ps7ube6egg.jpg

Would love to find one with target sights.

Please identify the revolver.

I only find these guys.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/18/a5/b6/18a5b6bea0c9be3040edc5bfc383f847.jpg

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Jyns7O3Dd7U/ToWIcYKdAHI/AAAAAAAABoo/lqIjCexNiTk/s1600/Revolver+especial.jpg

Bug Tussell
April 26, 2017, 10:53
Nice pics WEG.

We're that generation that saw the rise of the auto feeders and the demise of the revolvers as mainstream weapons. We also saw the hippies and dinosaurs.

eternal24k
April 26, 2017, 12:51
Please identify the revolver.




It's a French Manurhin MR-73

ETA: bigger pic
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z152/eternal24k/EFDDCD6B-FA26-42E7-B1F9-E18008A6EDFF_zpsnov9euus.jpg

TenTea
April 26, 2017, 13:16
It's a French Manurhin MR-73

ETA: bigger pic


Thanks, I suspected such, but wasn't sure.
Funny, I searched for *French revolver* images and nada.
They must be scarce.

Bawana jim
April 26, 2017, 13:37
Thanks, I suspected such, but wasn't sure.
Funny, I searched for *French revolver* images and nada.
They must be scarce.

Bing is your friend..:biggrin:

http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=french+revolvers&qpvt=french+revolvers&qpvt=french+revolvers&qpvt=french+revolvers&FORM=IGRE

TenTea
April 26, 2017, 14:08
Bing is your friend..:biggrin:

http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=french+revolvers&qpvt=french+revolvers&qpvt=french+revolvers&qpvt=french+revolvers&FORM=IGRE

OK ~ I see 1 or 2 there.

Now I have to decide whether I want a new friend and whether Bing will think I'm cool enough to hang out with. :confused:

Retired Bum
April 26, 2017, 15:56
When I hired in with the Federal Bureau of Prisons in 1973 the issue handgun at the pen I worked at was the old pre WW2 Colt Official Police model in .38 Spl with the four inch barrel. They were in sad shape because the staff had virtually no interest in taking care of them. The issue round were old Rem-UMC 158 grain RNL. The bullets were oxidized gray and frankly I had my doubts that any of these rounds would fire. Firearms and training were very low priority back then because the BOP was now being run by the bleeding heart headshrinker crowd who would have eliminated firearms if they could have.

Then one day the Colts were withdrawn and replaced by second hand S&W Model 10 four inch tapered barrel revolvers. They had been obtained from another federal agency. The issue load was the Winchester 110 grain JHP +P+ "Treasury load". These loads shot no where near POI of course but this was of no importance to the powers that be. Still the issue revolver and load when I retired in 1995.

I have owned a bunch of Model 10's and older M&P's over the years. Every barrel length and barrel weight. Square and round butt. Got two four inchers in the safe. One tapered and one heavy barrel in blue.

One day at my club range I was shooting the tapered barrel model when two youngish guys showed up and asked about the Model 10. Neither one of them had every shot a revolver before. I had plenty of hand loaded 150 grain LSWC rounds with me so I offered to "educate" these two by letting them shoot the Model 10. They accepted and I saw that they actually enjoyed shooting what they thought as an obsolete handgun.

Tucked away in the safe is a WW2 Victory .38 Special that was originally issued to the O.S.S. in 1943. Then it had been issued to the Illinois State Prison at Statesville after the war. It is still in decent original condition with the smooth walnut grips and lanyard ring intact. Every once in a while I take it to the range and put some HBWC rounds through it. A keeper to say the least.....

And so it goes.


The Retired One

bulletslap
April 26, 2017, 22:59
From about a million years ago.

A little detail cleaning for inspection day.

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd7/rkba2da/pistol%20pics/SW%2010/reloading%20bench%20MPD%20model%2010_zpshlnh8fae.j pg

He looks like he is going to break out with Bohemian Rapsody at any second :angel:

raubvogel
April 27, 2017, 05:35
He looks like he is going to break out with Bohemian Rapsody at any second :angel:

You beat me to it! :bow:

Bawana jim
April 27, 2017, 17:27
I have grown really fond of Colt Single Actions in 44 special, the more I shoot it the more I realize why they are still popular ever since 1873.

Retired Bum
April 27, 2017, 22:19
Colt needed the factory floor space to manufacture modern weapons after the Japanese attack on the USA at Pearl Harbor. The SAA was considered obsolete so the tooling was moved to an unused parking lot because there wasn't room for it in a warehouse. The machinery was covered with canvas tarps and there it sat for the rest of the war.

When Colt started up their post war production someone remembered about the SAA tooling in the parking lot. It was examined and found to be covered with thick red rust and ruined beyond repair. It didn't really matter to the Colt exec's and the machinery was hauled away and sold for scrapping.

But the emergence of the TV western cowboy shows in the early 1950's rekindled the interest in single action revolvers. Ruger cashed in with the introduction of the .22lr Single Six and a bit later the Blackhawk in .357 Magnum. A firearms company called Great Western began producing a slightly modernized copy of the Colt SAA. I remember seeing one a long time ago chambered for the ".357 Atomic" round which was just another name for the .357 Magnum.

So Colt purchased new production machinery and in 1955 began producing the 2nd Generation SAA. Made in two calibers only. The .45 Colt and the .38 Special. Later on the .38 Special was discontinued and replaced by the .357 Magnum. Some .44 Special SAA's were produced. A friend of mine had one of the early .38 Specials and offered it to me almost 40 years ago for the sum of $300. I took a pass on it and still rue doing so to this day.

I have owned a total of three single action Colts. A 3rd gen New Frontier, a 2nd gen SAA, and my current 3rd gen SAA. All in the original .45 Colt chambering.

It looks like that Colt will continue to offer the SAA in the future and if what I read last year is true the NF is back in production on a limited basis.

The Colt SAA is the American classic handgun of all time IMHO.

And so it goes.


The Retired One