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jam762
April 12, 2017, 09:54
Questions for the historians. In '61 the Brits changed from the short gas nut and long tube to the longer nut and shorter tube IIRC(please correct me if I'm wrong)? I have a left HG panel that is proofed B1961 with the cut for the short gas nut and now a right panel proofed B1961 cut for the longer gas nut.

Does anyone know the timeline of the transition?

The left B'61 panel came from GPC paired with a SLAZ 64 right panel, they are both covered with Rhodie paint.

Both B'61 panels are going yellowhand to work his majic. Just wondering if anyone knew when the transition took place?

B'61 panels.
http://i1327.photobucket.com/albums/u680/jam556/83E57540-2835-4E72-B5B8-AA237DBB4233_zpsfcueo0ft.jpg (http://s1327.photobucket.com/user/jam556/media/83E57540-2835-4E72-B5B8-AA237DBB4233_zpsfcueo0ft.jpg.html)

http://i1327.photobucket.com/albums/u680/jam556/E227E001-C7B6-4746-A22E-EB6AF296D099_zpsev4usxbf.jpg (http://s1327.photobucket.com/user/jam556/media/E227E001-C7B6-4746-A22E-EB6AF296D099_zpsev4usxbf.jpg.html)

B'61 & SLAZ64
http://i1327.photobucket.com/albums/u680/jam556/5322E632-C07D-4946-A8BB-30DAC7B94467_zps1ou2ijzu.jpg (http://s1327.photobucket.com/user/jam556/media/5322E632-C07D-4946-A8BB-30DAC7B94467_zps1ou2ijzu.jpg.html)

G3isMe
April 12, 2017, 19:51
Hmmm, all of the B handguards (1960 - 1962) I have and have seen have the short tube cut. I have seen some Enfields <s>D</s> marked with the longer cut.

ActionYobbo
April 12, 2017, 20:20
unpainted one looks like LB1961

NZ L1A1 Collector
April 13, 2017, 16:52
Left is the British (B1961) Mark 1 Handguard made for the short Screw, Retaining, Carrying Handle. NSN 1005-99-960-2311

Right is the British Mark 2 Handguards made for the Long Screw, Retaining, Carrying Handle. NSN 1005-99-960-3109

Then there are the Mark 1M handguards..... where they were modify as per the Armourers instruction: (k) Using suitable wood chisels, lengthen the clearance groove for the carrying handle retaining screw in the handguards to accommodate the extra length of the new design screw (Fig 4). Treat the grooves with linseed oil.

British and Australian handguards can be found in the 3 versions above. Although I haven't seen a big enough selection of Canadian handguards I would say the modification was incorporated into into their Mk. 2 handguards (no slots) that came into service in 1960.

The Australians changed from the Short to Long Screw, Retaining, Carrying Handle in 1959, this would of been the same time it was introduced into service with the British and Canadian's, but just because something was changed and a date stated, it doesn't mean the manufacturer did it there and then.


D117, No. 5. Issue Issue 2, 17 May 65

These modifications have been completed on all rifles stamped with the figure 5 as detailed in para 7(m) and on rifles of 1965 manufacture from serial number UE 65 A 130502 onward.

jam762
April 14, 2017, 08:07
Thanks for the replies and that was the info I was looking for NZ_L1A1:bow: