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Bawana jim
March 22, 2017, 22:55
Just shopping for some opinions. I picked two bullets I am considering for a defence load in 44 special. Picture of the first one is of a 300 grain but I would be buying a 260 grain in the same style. Second is your Keith style 240 grain. What's your thinking?

https://www.grafs.com/retail/catalog/product/productId/74343


https://www.grafs.com/retail/catalog/product/productId/10672

tdb59
March 22, 2017, 23:02
CorBon DPX.


seriously.


https://www.midwayusa.com/product/773739/cor-bon-dpx-ammunition-44-special-200-grain-dpx-hollow-point-lead-free-box-of-20

Right Side Up
March 22, 2017, 23:23
https://www.pennbullets.com/44/44-caliber.html

245 grain wadcutter. I loaded up some of these awhile back for my Smith .44 Special 3 incher. Shoot pretty good. I loaded them to medium velocity with AA #9. If I want a bigger punch I'll reach for one of the 29's.

Bawana jim
March 22, 2017, 23:45
https://www.pennbullets.com/44/44-caliber.html

245 grain wadcutter. I loaded up some of these awhile back for my Smith .44 Special 3 incher. Shoot pretty good. I loaded them to medium velocity with AA #9. If I want a bigger punch I'll reach for one of the 29's.

Is that the Thunder head bullet you speak of?

Right Side Up
March 23, 2017, 01:12
Yes Sir buddy.

VALMET
March 23, 2017, 05:19
+1 for CorBon loads. Use caution if using a Charter Arms Bulldog...good guns IMO just not built for stoutest loads.

MAINER
March 23, 2017, 10:46
What are you defending against? Bears and varmits (two legged) call for different loads, but generally the Bear ammo works for both, just a mite excessive on the varmits and whatever is behind it for a ways.

My 44 varmit loads are about any 200grn, JHP loaded to 800fps or so. Cor-Bons, Winchester Silvertips, Speers and Hornadys are all good here, it is a .44. :]

I have neighbors about 50 yards away and outrageously expensive horses (not mine) to the rear of me. I shoot a lot of cast bullets in 44's and have found those lead slug penetrate a lot of stuff over a long distance. Light JHP's tend to stay with the first object they make contact with.
YMMV

BUFF
March 23, 2017, 12:09
I have always trusted the penetration of a good, cast SWC bullet. In the.44 Special, I have loaded and shot a metric crap-ton of Lyman's 429421 which is usually about 250 grains sized and lubed.

I load it over 7.5 grains of unique for about 900 fps from a 4 inch gun, 950 out of a 7-1/2 incher. Use a firm roll crimp.

W.E.G.
March 23, 2017, 12:42
Inside the 8-ring.

The minutae will be moot.

littlehoot
March 23, 2017, 18:52
Inside the 8-ring.

The minutae will be moot.


This. It is a 44

Bawana jim
March 23, 2017, 22:12
Reading Elmer Keith I have pretty much set my mind to the heavy bullets because for him they worked so well on game. Going to order some wadcutter tomorrow and try them out and thanks for telling me about them. Factory ammo is all good but I don't want to spend a fortune buying it.

Thanks guys for your points of view, this place is great for knowledge on firearms..:bow:

gunseller
March 24, 2017, 19:53
I have shot a lot od the Keith style bullets in my 44s. One is a S&W like Keith's and the other is a Charter Arms Bulldog. I usually have Winchester Silvers in it. From what I understand they worked for Son of Sam.
Steve

hueyville
April 05, 2017, 22:36
Can send you a hundred or so cast SWC 44 bullets if want to try mine. Cast from clip on wheel weights and will be free.

Bawana jim
April 06, 2017, 10:21
I found a local man that will cast my bullets, thanks for the help...

limeyinaz
April 06, 2017, 13:32
Seems you are all talking self defense loads in the 200 gr. + levels.

I have some PMC .44 SP rounds that are 110 GR. THP. Quite a nasty looking hollow point round.

Anyone have any experience with these?

hueyville
April 10, 2017, 10:46
Seems you are all talking self defense loads in the 200 gr. + levels.

I have some PMC .44 SP rounds that are 110 GR. THP. Quite a nasty looking hollow point round.

Anyone have any experience with these?

Do not shoot those. Suck for defensive ammo as just punchanged a round cookie cutter hole. Why called "flying cookie cutters". If have a full 100 round box will pay $75 which is market price. Guy keeps relisting a box at $99 opening bid and hasn't had a taker yet. Have a incomplete box of 44 special and full boxes in other calibers. I find old fashioned Winchester Silver Tips good 44 Special defensive fodder and hard cast gas check Keith bullets for critter defense.

denny
April 26, 2017, 21:51
I'm with Buff 7 1/2 grains Unique and a 429421 Keith bullet. 44 Special Cal.
Use the NEW Lyman mold ( forward driving band is 429 square shouldered ) grease groove is square bottomed also .
The older molds have round bands and grease grooves .
In the 44 mag it's 9 grains. I got 3 shot clover leafs at 25 yards.
Denny