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oleblu72
January 06, 2017, 18:21
What do you guys think of this scope package? It says the scope is going to be discontinued , just wondering if this scope has problems or just clearing out for the new model. And one more thing how is Burris for customer service? Thanks.

Mark


https://swfa.com/optics/browse/riflescopes/burris-1-5x24-xtr-ii-30mm-rifle-scope.html

MAINER
January 06, 2017, 20:55
Have several Burris scopes that I like including a Euro-Diamond 1-4X. Never had a problem with them so can't advise on their customer service, have not heard any complaints about.

Couldn't find info about being discontinued by maker, maybe just a slow moving item for SWFA. I would buy the scope, but not particularly interested in the mount or piggy back sight.
Not fond of the scope reticle on this model for my purposes.

Save a $100, buy some ammo;
http://www.ebay.com/itm/BURRIS-201002-XTR-II-1X-5X-24mm-FastFire-III-aR-PERP-30mm-Tube-XTR-Ballistic/361506103094?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%2 6asc%3D40778%26meid%3D2300e17176444cef992f988fc923 ac9a%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D3117 45832801&rt=nc

CG&L
January 06, 2017, 21:39
You should go for it

The scope is a good one, excellent in fact
Burris did so well and continues to do well with the 1-4 MTAC
They covered the market.

You would be getting an excellent scope with, essentially, a Fast Fire thrown in for free. Maybe not free, but really cheap. The Fast Fire is an excellent sight and you'll find a use for it.

If I hadn't just bought an MTAC and a bunch of shop equipment, I would probably order the XRT II right now.

Disclaimer
I have no idea what you plan on using the scope for. I needed the MTAC but the XTR II would have been a litter better

hueyville
January 07, 2017, 05:31
Own it, like it, good price. Have dozens of Burris products and never needed customer service or repair but heard it's top notch.

hkshooter
January 07, 2017, 09:39
I had a few Burris products in the past, excellent quality and made in the USA was their mantra at the time (can't say about today).
Had one experience with CS that was excellent. Had an RA scope (Burris used to build rimfire/airgun specific scopes) on a springer that the accuracy went to pot on. I couldn't determine what went wrong so I split the package and sent the rifle and the scope to their respective makers for evaluation. Scope came back working smoother than when it left, clean, and all the gold inlay markings had been redone. The piece looked brand new and they gave it a clean bill of health for no charge. Zero.
The rifle was the problem and needed a new spring.
That sold me on Burris.

gunplumber
January 07, 2017, 09:48
Optics planet has a little lower price if you don't care about the FF. Not sure of difference between the IOI and 3rd Gen recticlue. And why one is $638 and another $798. A very good copy of the GRSC, although I doubt they are paying Ed licensing fees for having blatantly ripped of his reticule design

I've always been a fan of Burris scopes. I would like to try the eye relief on this one to see if it could sit in front of a FAL rear sight.

http://shop.opticsplanet.com/burris-1-5-24mm-illum-riflescope.html?_iv_code=BR-RS-JS734-201001&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=plusbox-beta&gclid=Cj0KEQiAwMLDBRDCh_r9sMvQ_88BEiQA6zuAQy7r15BD IIiOnEilhyCCJ44FMyFlLNk_uzpqcK2n6-caAkl58P8HAQ

oleblu72
January 07, 2017, 15:43
Have several Burris scopes that I like including a Euro-Diamond 1-4X. Never had a problem with them so can't advise on their customer service, have not heard any complaints about.

Couldn't find info about being discontinued by maker, maybe just a slow moving item for SWFA. I would buy the scope, but not particularly interested in the mount or piggy back sight.
Not fond of the scope reticle on this model for my purposes.

Save a $100, buy some ammo;
http://www.ebay.com/itm/BURRIS-201002-XTR-II-1X-5X-24mm-FastFire-III-aR-PERP-30mm-Tube-XTR-Ballistic/361506103094?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%2 6asc%3D40778%26meid%3D2300e17176444cef992f988fc923 ac9a%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D3117 45832801&rt=nc


Thanks for the Ebay link Mainer I checked Ebay but I never saw this one, even free shipping Swfa isn't.

I thought I would put the Fastfire 3 on my other 6.8. Thanks all for your replies.

Mark

W.E.G.
January 07, 2017, 16:48
Wait.

You gotta mount a second device (that "Fast Fire" thing) in order to get an illuminated aiming point???

And mount it on top of that retarded-looking piggyback ring set???

Is this 1997 and KMart?

You can get a perfectly good low-power variable scope with illuminated reticle for far less than $700.

meltblown
January 07, 2017, 17:40
Wait.

You gotta mount a second device (that "Fast Fire" thing) in order to get an illuminated aiming point???

And mount it on top of that retarded-looking piggyback ring set???

Is this 1997 and KMart?

You can get a perfectly good low-power variable scope with illuminated reticle for far less than $700.

Sorta my thought. Buy a 300 scope and a decent LaRue mount and save 100 at least you still have the mount

nopec
January 07, 2017, 18:30
They have similar combos with the Leopold vxr patrol for less to simiar money.

CG&L
January 07, 2017, 18:59
The XTR appears to be quite a cut above what you guys are used to.

The illuminated reticle knob has an off position between every setting. If you don't make adjustments much, this isn't a big deal but for some of us it's really nice. The brightness settings also go down to NV use

The tube is 25% thicker than most other tubes. This is something that may not appeal to some users but it does make for a strong scope. I'll trade a little weight for the extra strength any day.

The ocular focus is great for older eyes. It's quick and easy to use. Again, not that useful for some but quite an asset for others.

It has an outside adjustable elevation knob with zero stop. I trust NightForce for elevation adjustments and zero stop, not anyone else. Still, this is a most excellent option to have available. The XRT elevation knob won't have the longevity of a NF but it may work for a long time.

It's still a great scope at a great price.

ByronF
January 07, 2017, 19:20
Exposed turrets are for precision rifles. Precision rifles are high magnification. Do I need a retical that looks like a TV antenna to shoot targets with a 1-5X scope?

This makes sense like Super Swampers on a Corvette.

gunplumber
January 08, 2017, 10:14
Wait.

You gotta mount a second device (that "Fast Fire" thing) in order to get an illuminated aiming point???

Are we looking at same scope? I thought the bright red dot in the center meant it was illuminated.

Personally, I don't see the point of a red dot on a scope that already has a 1x setting. It's for putting on something with a low setting of a high enough magnification as to make close range difficult. Like my fixed 10x Leupold, I have a Larue mount to put a aimpoint micro on it. Now that I have a 3-10 Nightforce on it, It is of questionable value to add the aimpoint. Because 3x is a pretty low power for close range.

https://swfa.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/B/U/BUR201002-r.jpg

Do I need a retical that looks like a TV antenna to shoot targets with a 1-5X scope?
.

So you're no fan of the ACOG either?

W.E.G.
January 08, 2017, 10:16
Maybe I missed it.

I looked at the ad.

Didn't see mention of illuminated reticle.

Maybe its there.

If so, then its double-dumb, to buy that combo.

Especially at that price.

W.E.G.
January 08, 2017, 10:17
OK

There it is.

Illuminated reticle reduces time to get on target in any lighting condition and dramatically increases accuracy when target is dark
11 brightness settings (spanning night vision, low light, and daytime), with a convenient battery-saver position between each setting

W.E.G.
January 08, 2017, 10:19
If its not the same scope, its nearly the same as one I bought from Palmetto for less than $200.

IIRC, I paid about $140 for a scope with that same reticle.

ByronF
January 08, 2017, 10:31
So you're no fan of the ACOG either?

ACOG have lots of options. Some are very busy. If I were to purchase a ACOG I'd opt for simpler versions.

I dont get low powered optics with exposed target turrets and cluttered reticules.

jhend170
January 08, 2017, 22:52
What the wife got me for Christmas, as my request of course. Had the 4-14 HUD version for the M1a but this is going on the FAL. LOVE the reticle. Think it's some of the best glass for the money.

http://www.primaryarms.com/primary-arms-1-8x-scope-with-patented-acss-5-56-5-45-308-reticle-pa1-8x24sfp-acss-5-56

hueyville
January 09, 2017, 00:58
My Burris 1x-5x with similar reticle is illuminated. It sits in simple mount with no red dot. Purchased in similar "package" and used mount with a Leupold 4x-12x and set the red dot over the Leupold. A 1x scope does not need a 1x red dot also unless plan to leave scope cranked up to high power most of time and not fool with.

Fn/form
January 09, 2017, 20:54
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I dont get low powered optics with exposed target turrets and cluttered reticules.

Low power variable w/BDC reticles... I am good with. Better than writing it on a scope cap or buttstock.

Exposed turrets I am not good with, tho I do like thumb turn turrets under caps. Fugg coin slots.

My TAC30 had better glass than my MTAC.

My TAC30 reticle canted. Still held zero. Burris fixed it in 2 weeks.

I love hi res glass. I like a bit of illum at daybreak, dusk only. No use for the super brights.

A used SWFA 1-4 HD w/capped turrets is bueno for the money.

MAINER
January 10, 2017, 13:10
Thanks for the Ebay link Mainer I checked Ebay but I never saw this one, even free shipping Swfa isn't.

I thought I would put the Fastfire 3 on my other 6.8. Thanks all for your replies.

Mark

Better price, but no mount or Fastfire. Couple models on sale with different reticles.
https://www.natchezss.com/1x-5x-24mmillum-mat.html

squid8286
January 10, 2017, 13:38
What the wife got me for Christmas, as my request of course. Had the 4-14 HUD version for the M1a but this is going on the FAL. LOVE the reticle. Think it's some of the best glass for the money.

http://www.primaryarms.com/primary-arms-1-8x-scope-with-patented-acss-5-56-5-45-308-reticle-pa1-8x24sfp-acss-5-56

That looks like a good scope. Does anybody know who builds the scopes for Primary Arms?

CG&L
January 10, 2017, 14:22
The XTR II 1-5 is a great deal on a great scope but there may be an even better one

The XTR II 1-8 34mm tube front focal plane
http://www.cabelas.com/product/BURRIS-XTR-II-FFP-RIFLESCOPES/2333352.uts?productVariantId=4731009&WT.tsrc=PPC&WT.mc_id=GoogleProductAds&WT.z_mc_id1=04526967&rid=20&gclid=Cj

I think it's a great bargain at $1,000

gunplumber
January 10, 2017, 15:29
wow - that really looks like the ultimate MBR scope. Here's a link with the reticle. Not thrilled with the big ring, but I could get used to it.

I wonder if eye relief will allow it to sit in front of the FAL rear sight?

http://www.burrisoptics.com/scopes/xtr-ii-riflescopes-series/xtr-ii-riflescope-1-8x24

jhend170
January 10, 2017, 17:26
That looks like a good scope. Does anybody know who builds the scopes for Primary Arms?

They are designed here but Chinese made, of course. I don't think they are subcontracted out though, think they have their own facility over there.

They have a new primo line now for like 4x the price but looking through both at PA's storefront I don't have the visual acuity to see a significant difference, but then again across the parking are to the next building 50yds away is about the furthest you can see. I would hope that extra grand means something, doesn't to me.