View Full Version : Do I have to engrave SBR?

December 03, 2016, 17:11
Talked to the ATF and my SBR stamp is on its way. A friend who owns an SBR said I do not have to engrave it. He has not done any of his and plans not to. Is this true? I thought it was required by the ATF

December 03, 2016, 17:30
I think the engraving is only required before you sell it, or transfer ownership.

December 03, 2016, 19:07
The manufacturer marks it. If you are building it on an approved form 1, yes you do; you are manufacturing it. If you bought your item from a manufacturer and transferred it on a form 4 you do not as the manufacturer already has it marked.

December 03, 2016, 19:32
If you creating an NFA firearm from an existing firearm, you are the "Maker", not manufacturer.

Here is the pertinent section from the BATF NFA handbook:

6.2.1 Description of firearm. If an existing firearm or firearm receiver is being used, the name and
location of the original manufacturer of the weapon should be entered in Block 4(a). If the applicant is
making a completely new firearm, the applicant’s name and location should be entered in Block 4(a).
The type of firearm being made, i.e., short barrel rifle, short barrel shotgun, any other weapon, silencer
or destructive device, is to be entered in Block 4(b). The caliber or gauge of the firearm is to be entered
in Block 4(c). If a model designation has been assigned to the firearm, that designation is to be placed in
Block 4(d). If the weapon has no model designation, enter “none” in Block 4(d). The length of the
barrel is to be entered, in inches, in Block 4(e) and the overall length of the firearm is to be entered, in
inches, in Block 4(f).
All NFA firearms must be identified by a serial number and other specified markings95. If an existing
firearm is being used in the making of the NFA weapon, and that firearm is serialized, the existing serial
number should be used (unless it duplicates a serial number already used by the maker on Form 1) and
entered in Block 4(g). If the weapon is of new manufacture, the applicant must assign a unique serial
number and enter it in Block 4(g). For example, a unique serial number could be composed of at least 4
digits preceded by the initials of the maker. NOTE: alpha characters, e.g., a name, will not be accepted
as a serial number. If a name is to be used, there must be at least one numeric character in addition to
the alpha characters.
The serial number must be engraved or stamped on the receiver of the firearm and the caliber, model,
and identification of the maker must be engraved on the barrel or frame or receiver of the weapon.96 The
marking and identification requirements for a maker are the same as for a manufacturer. Refer to
section 7.4 for a detailed discussion of the requirements.


Here is the whole handbook: https://www.atf.gov/file/58251/download

December 04, 2016, 01:44
I am using an AR pistol to make an SBR. If I understand it right, I am the maker and must engrave my trust name, town and state where I live. Thanks guys.

December 04, 2016, 08:18
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