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Impala_Guy
November 25, 2016, 19:00
It's on a standard laminated AKM buttstock. A square with a dividing line down the center...or two rectangles paired vertically to form a square if your like.

Is this a Russian stock? Iszmash? Tula?

Genetically Swiss
November 25, 2016, 19:10
It should be a factory refurbishment stamp. Should look something like this?

http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m533/Phatass56/IMG_0938_zpsf8wyg1nk.jpg

GS

Impala_Guy
November 25, 2016, 19:16
It should be a factory refurbishment stamp.


GS

Russian? Any arsenal? Trying to build a Tula clone and wondering if this is appropriate. I guess as a replacement stock it would be?

Genetically Swiss
November 25, 2016, 19:24
Russian? Any arsenal? Trying to build a Tula clone and wondering if this is appropriate. I guess as a replacement stock it would be?

Soviet, and I think it a standard refurb stamp regardless of Tula, Izhevsk, whatever. Tula manufacture was usually an arrow inside a star. Like this:

http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m533/Phatass56/IMG_0939_zps1kdaxlwb.jpg

Although, sometimes Tula produced components had a hammer cartouche:

http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m533/Phatass56/IMG_0940_zpsonjxr7zy.jpg

Sometimes Tula had the hammer inside a circle also.

GS

Brian in MN
November 26, 2016, 17:08
People call them refurb stamps but every one that I have seen did not appear to have been issued, used and refinished. I have purchased several, both AKM and AK-74, that were never drilled for the tang screws. I believe the stamp indicates that it was manufactured as a spare part. It is possible the stamp simply indicates the factory that made it and that factory only made replacement wood and/or did refurb work. I have never seen one with any other markings stamped into them and I have never seen one that showed any signs of having been sanded.

It is possible that I have never seen one that was not undrilled prior to my ownership.

Brian in MN
November 26, 2016, 17:10
It should be a factory refurbishment stamp. Should look something like this?

http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m533/Phatass56/IMG_0938_zpsf8wyg1nk.jpg

GS


Do you know what part bears that stamp?

Impala_Guy
November 26, 2016, 18:30
People call them refurb stamps but every one that I have seen did not appear to have been issued, used and refinished. I have purchased several, both AKM and AK-74, that were never drilled for the tang screws. .

This.

Its a brand new unused laminated AKM stock.

Abominog
November 26, 2016, 23:08
I love it when Brian shows up. He is as always correct. This mark appears on many stocks that were sold as MAADI surplus. It is well known to be Russian

darkest2000
November 26, 2016, 23:40
It makes sense to find these marks on unissued stock sets, since they would most definitely be intended for use in refurbishment originally and likely were just pre-marked as such.

Brian in MN
November 30, 2016, 10:24
I love it when Brian shows up. He is as always correct.


I wish that were true!!!



It is also interesting to note that the "refurb" stamps were marked before the finish was applied to the butts. The stamps generally found on original issue wood were hand stamped after the finish was applied.