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carmenrose9967
November 01, 2016, 22:17
Hi Guys, I am in need of a .22 for my grandson, he is 5yrs going on 6yrs. I favor a bolt rifle but am open to any good training rifle. Anyone who had good luck with there own grand kids please let me hear about them. Rifle size, single shot , mag fed, sights type?
Regards,
Rich:bow:

medicmike
November 01, 2016, 22:30
My boy's first rifle was a Remington Model 6 when he was about 5 years old. Great shooter and fit him pretty well. No idea what they are selling for now days. Something to be said for learning to shoot with a single shot. :cheers:

pre1989
November 01, 2016, 23:02
Single shot bolt gun

http://www.crickett.com/crickett_22_LR.php
https://www.henryrifles.com/rifles/mini-bolt-youth/

http://www.fieldandstream.com/articles/hunting/2013/12/first-real-rifle-22#page-4 covers a lot


Try starting with a BB gun though imop for handling etc

Then move on to a single shot bolt with CB or such low power and low noise rounds or at min just normal LR loads

Then go on a mag feed or tube etc gun

Invictus77
November 01, 2016, 23:11
I started two of my 5 y/o grandsons this year on a Daisy BB gun. One took to it pretty quickly but did have some handling safety issues that need more work. The other just could not quite get a good handle on it at that age. I believe by next summer with another year of age under their belts, they will be all over it.

My point in this is that a 5 y/o can be marginal on readiness for shooting. I am sure their are plenty that can, but I also know there are plenty not quite mature enough. You might want to consider a BB gun first to work out the kinks and know what you have to work with there before the 22.

My two cents anyway and good on you Grampa for actively going there with them :cheers:

Aeroscout
November 02, 2016, 00:13
+1 on the Cricket.....It is great for kids.

http://i1383.photobucket.com/albums/ah301/rcjaquette/Misc/11225180_1228427760550401_6288657822051538370_n_zp ssey5w60y.jpg

Tuhlmann
November 02, 2016, 08:51
My son has been training on a Savage Rascal since he was 5. He is 9 now and still loves his rifle. IMO it is substantially superior in fit & finish to the Cricket rifles I handled and a few other jr. models I considered (models escape me at the moment). It has the adjustable AccuTrigger, which was a hige selling point for me as the others had triggers that were on par with muskrat traps. Hard enough learning fundamentals without fighting a crappy trigger too. Another positive is the adjustable rear peep, which I think gives the best sight picture available in iron sights. The last reason I had which may not apply to you is Savage makes a LH version, and I have a lefty son. That little rifle shoots, I can attest to that.

ETA: Single shots will accomplish two things: 1.) Reinforce that every shot counts, and 2.) reduce thee rate at which Dad's/Grandpa's rimfire supply dwindles down to critical volumes.

aquaman
November 02, 2016, 09:46
I went with the CZ 452 Scout (http://cz-usa.com/product/cz-452-scout-22lr-beech-single-shot-adapter/).

It has a single shot adapter, adjustable trigger, 12" length of pull, and is demonstrably higher quality than other youth models.

Unfortunately the boy seems to have little interest in shooting to date.

gentlemanjoe
November 02, 2016, 15:02
Savage make a model like the Cricket. Very nice looking and accurate. My brother bought a Cricket and later the Savage. I think the kids favor the Savage.

raubvogel
November 02, 2016, 20:57
The CMP has used daisy air rifles for $100. Or they had. Single shot airgun. Adjustable peep sights, trigger, piston, and even comes with a sling.

Next in line could be a CZ99 bolt action rifle, which can be bought for under $200. Some features: adjustable trigger, heavy barrel, and you can find it under the monitor Remington model 5 in the used market.

Texgunner
November 03, 2016, 10:59
I have two grandsons at the moment. One was 2 in August and the other will be 2 in December. I've been buying .22 rifles for their shooting "development" in a few years. My first rifle was a Mossberg 250 semi-auto, stolen 30 years ago. I bought another on Gunbroker mostly for sentimental reasons (really wasn't much of a shooter back then). I picked up a Marlin Model 60 with a Tasco scope, another semi, and one with optics. And, I still have a Ruger 10/22 with a Bushnell TRS-25 red-dot.

But, I'm really stoked on the two bolt guns I bought for them. The first was a CZ-build ZKM 468 from 1950. I got it from Allan's Armory. It is really short and light and shoots great. I've been shooting squirrels in the backyard with it using Aquila Super Colibri rounds. The other is a 1936 Winchester 67. It's another good ol' squirrel gun too. I just checked Allan's website and apparently he doesn't have the ZKM rifles anymore. Damn, I was going to pick one up for the grand-daughter who should arrive any day now...:angel:

The little CZ:

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y292/Texgunner/CZ%20ZKM%20468%201950/DSC_0020.jpg (http://s7.photobucket.com/user/Texgunner/media/CZ%20ZKM%20468%201950/DSC_0020.jpg.html)

grooved stock, no butt-plate:

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y292/Texgunner/CZ%20ZKM%20468%201950/DSC_0030.jpg (http://s7.photobucket.com/user/Texgunner/media/CZ%20ZKM%20468%201950/DSC_0030.jpg.html)

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y292/Texgunner/CZ%20ZKM%20468%201950/DSC_0042.jpg (http://s7.photobucket.com/user/Texgunner/media/CZ%20ZKM%20468%201950/DSC_0042.jpg.html)

Winchester Model 67:

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y292/Texgunner/Winchester%20Model%2067%201936/DSC_0248.jpg (http://s7.photobucket.com/user/Texgunner/media/Winchester%20Model%2067%201936/DSC_0248.jpg.html)

folk art?

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y292/Texgunner/Winchester%20Model%2067%201936/DSC_0233.jpg (http://s7.photobucket.com/user/Texgunner/media/Winchester%20Model%2067%201936/DSC_0233.jpg.html)

Timber Wolf
November 05, 2016, 09:46
You probably won't be able to find one, but I highly recommend an Anschutz Woodchucker for a first gun. I added a Williams rear peep and Lyman globe front sight and my daughter did very good work with it until she out-grew it. She is now (at 13) shooting my Remington 521-T to equally good effect.:)

ALL FAL
November 07, 2016, 02:01
Old school quality is getting harder to find, Best of luck in whatever you decide.

canman
November 07, 2016, 05:18
I vote for a Remington bolt gun. 514 is what my kids both started on. But any Remington 5XX should do nicely.

Canman

K. Funk
November 07, 2016, 20:24
My son had 2 crickets, but the quality seems to have gone down on them in recent years. He also had a Savage Cub, which was a bit bigger, but a much better rifle in my opinion.

krf

justashooter
November 09, 2016, 08:06
I The other is a 1936 Winchester 67.

your 67 looks to be post '45. the pre-war guns had finger grooved forestocks. none of them were serialized, with production between '35 and '63, IIRC.

Texgunner
November 09, 2016, 08:29
your 67 looks to be post '45. the pre-war guns had finger grooved forestocks. none of them were serialized, with production between '35 and '63, IIRC.

That's interesting to hear. The man I bought it from claimed it as a 1936 model. My research, limited as it was, seemed to confirm his assertion. Thanks for the info.

Are there errors in this Wikipedia entry? It claims the finger grooves were eliminated in late '35. Some details do support a '36 date.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winchester_Model_67

justashooter
November 10, 2016, 10:19
don't recall my source. I have several grooved '67. wiki might be right, or not?

JSnover
November 11, 2016, 16:24
Any of those little single shots would be perfect for a kid that age. I started with a Remington 341 and loved it (I still have it!) but at 7 years old the barrel was a little bit too long.

carmenrose9967
November 14, 2016, 21:23
The CMP has used daisy air rifles for $100. Or they had. Single shot airgun. Adjustable peep sights, trigger, piston, and even comes with a sling.

Next in line could be a CZ99 bolt action rifle, which can be bought for under $200. Some features: adjustable trigger, heavy barrel, and you can find it under the monitor Remington model 5 in the used market.

Do you have to be a club member to buy a air rifle from CMP ?
Rich:bow:

jt59
November 14, 2016, 22:11
Another vote for the CZ 452 scout. I have also seen some youth size marlins for much less $ than the CZ.

stoner
November 17, 2016, 11:11
I have a little Henry single shot bolt 22. When I closed my shop, it was of unsold inventory. I kept it for any future grand children. Still don't have any, yet.

Bubacus
November 19, 2016, 18:49
Any of the suggested would be great. Through in some Colibri for indoor training and you have some nice memories.