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Impala_Guy
October 29, 2016, 15:47
I bought this thinking it was an original m14 Leatherwood but when I took it out of the box I realised something wasn't right....the color was too dark on the finish. Turns out its a civilian copy that DPMS made back in the early 1990s. Does anyone know what the quality on these is like? How about a value? Unfortunately I paid almost as much as what I would expect to pay for a real Redfield made USGI one. I don't think the seller is a crook, only doesn't know what this is. I saw the 'x' in the photos but not the color because they were flash photos.
http://i66.tinypic.com/20kyko3.jpg

Illurian00
October 29, 2016, 17:56
Country of manufacture ?
Maybe under the rings ?

ServiceRifle
October 29, 2016, 18:25
These were made in the US by DPMS. The took over production from Leatherwood. The problem is that at some point - as time went on - their quality control suffered and these scope became less relaiable. If he's got a good one he's lucky - you just never knew with the DPMS ones.

Impala_Guy
October 29, 2016, 18:41
These were made in the US by DPMS. The took over production from Leatherwood. The problem is that at some point - as time went on - their quality control suffered and these scope became less relaiable. If he's got a good one he's lucky - you just never knew with the DPMS ones.

What kind of problems can you expect from these commercial copies. Opinion on value compared to a real USGI scope?

01BIRDDOG
October 30, 2016, 09:17
What kind of problems can you expect from these commercial copies. Opinion on value compared to a real USGI scope?


I cant comment about these as i have never owned one. What i can say is even on the best ART 1 and i have owned several, is the vertical rib on the mount will wallow around and result in the mounts ability to stay tight and hold zero. I would think the improved mount of an original ART II would have addressed this problem. The optics of scope itself and the adjustment of it is just what it is.....old school. I would think the cam itself would be "Martin Hard coat" and should be no problem.

Nothing smells any better than the inside of a ART 1 aluminum can.

ServiceRifle
November 03, 2016, 11:59
What kind of problems can you expect from these commercial copies. Opinion on value compared to a real USGI scope?

For what its worth

http://www.perfectunion.com/vb/m14-m1a-talk/38992-leatherwood-art-ii-dpms.html

http://gunhub.com/gun-gear/6273-problem-s-leatherwood-artii.html

deimos22
November 05, 2016, 14:35
maybe 200$

John Crusher
November 05, 2016, 21:00
maybe 200$

Based on what information ?