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Bubacus
October 26, 2016, 06:06
Looks like IWI finally got the Galil Ace in .308 in and ready for shipping to distributors. Comes with a magpul SR25.308 magazine:

From IWI's facebook announcement:

We are pleased to announce that after months of delays, today we finally start shipping the Galil ACE rifles in 7.62 NATO (7.62x51mm)! They should start showing up at our distributors early next week and your local FFL Dealer a few days later. The IWI US website will be updated with details on this rifle in a few hours.

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/IMG_4452-660x377.jpg

gunplumber
October 26, 2016, 07:29
I'm underwhelmed . . . greatly.

AR-15 stock?

Fixed front sight?

Why?

AliYahu
October 26, 2016, 08:52
I'm underwhelmed . . . greatly.

AR-15 stock?

Fixed front sight?

Why?

To modify a quote I first read here about the Sig 556, "It looks like somebody took a Galil, dipped it in glue, and drug it through a Crapco catalog!"
I'm disappointed, too, and if you ask the importer about 'real' Galils they don't reply. They don't seem to understand they could sell at least 10X the amount of weapons they currently are!

Eli

ColeKira
October 26, 2016, 08:56
My first thought was, "WTF is up with that stock!". Seriously!

slavicshooter
October 26, 2016, 09:42
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c118/slavicshooter/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-10/images-28_zpsm2jswtc2.jpeg (http://s26.photobucket.com/user/slavicshooter/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-10/images-28_zpsm2jswtc2.jpeg.html)

No tingle in my nether regions on this one.~ssİ

Thorack
October 26, 2016, 13:49
Well,

I've looked at the alternatives VEPR and SAIGA in 308 and so far the GALIL to me looks like a better value. No funky stamped one side only reinforced or angled rear/trunnion receiver like the VEPR and SAIGA plus the Galil takes a very common inexpensive mag. I'm Sold!

The looks aren't that great but I'll be selling all my AK's once these get in stock. If anyone want a SAR-1, SAR-2 and AES-10B drop me a line. I'll make you a deal on all three. Case of 5.45 ammo and AK-47 drum mags included.

Thorack

CG&L
October 26, 2016, 14:08
Is the gas block on the Ace adjustable?

J. Armstrong
October 26, 2016, 14:50
I'm underwhelmed . . . greatly.

AR-15 stock?

Fixed front sight?

Why?

And a muzzle "break" ( sorry, couldn't resist - brake :D ) :facepalm:

Does anybody know if a "real" Galil folder can be swapped on ? I'm thinking probably not.

I think I'll stick with the SCAR and FAL, thanks very much.

Roadmarker
October 26, 2016, 17:51
If the price were a bit lower and if you could use the standard Galil folder it might be a great choice for a general purpose rifle. I'm sure the accuracy with the rotating bolt and a decent 18" barrel would surpass our venerable FALs.

preston1026
October 26, 2016, 19:44
One mag? That's ridiculous! Spend over a grand and they can't roll in a couple more mags with their cost being minimum.

A lot of companies skimp on mags included, I think it's more of a detractor for the total purchase than money saved.

Thorack
October 26, 2016, 19:49
Yeah,

While the para and old style Galil stocks look good, the ability to change length of pull while wearing body armor or training CQB is nice. I just wish they used a regular AR stock tube rather than a propriety one.

Thorack

Bubacus
October 26, 2016, 20:37
I wish there was a "Classic" model available. That AR stock will have to go and and something like an ACE folder would fit the bill.

raubvogel
October 26, 2016, 20:45
I'm underwhelmed . . . greatly.

AR-15 stock?

Don't you know the AR-15 stock is the definition of perfect and adding it to any rifle automatically improves it?

ALL FAL
October 26, 2016, 23:42
:facepalm:, Funny you and I let gun makers know what we want and they hand us this? The Tavor must have gone to their head with the amount of Plastic, I have more respect for the Keltec now.

Drew Eckhardt
October 27, 2016, 00:59
I wish there was a "Classic" model available. That AR stock will have to go and and something like an ACE folder would fit the bill.

I'd entertain arguments the .308 Galil was the best battle rifle, and would have been very happy with a .308 Galil ARM 332 (including bottle opener) not banned by name, shipped to California with a bullet button by the end of the year.

Unfortunately that wasn't the path IMI took.

I expect plastic and composites in modern designs, as in the Glock and all-new Tavor.

I find it out of place on classic guns like the 1911 and AK47.

WILD HOND
October 27, 2016, 01:05
I wonder if these rifles will make the South African shores.
I do like it allot.

moonbat60
October 27, 2016, 08:13
The old Galil might not have been perfect, but it was an ok battle rifle.

Why don't we just AR15-ize everything ? :facepalm:

J. Armstrong
October 27, 2016, 08:14
All the K98 and Garand wood and steel fans moaned about the advent of plastic and aluminum FALs and ARs. Now those fans are distrustful of polymer. While I have a huge dose of appreciation for the traditional, well proven designs, when it comes to functionality I am willing to accept polymer gladly with the proviso that it is well designed and tested.

Just think, some day the AR "platform" will be venerated as a classic :eek:

d_s
October 27, 2016, 11:25
I'm underwhelmed . . . greatly.

AR-15 stock?

Fixed front sight?

Why?

My thoughts exactly!

slavicshooter
October 27, 2016, 12:08
I was chompin' at the bit for the new Galil, then once I got a better view of the stock set it was like waking up with an ugly girl after a night of whiskey drinking. Think I'll start saving for a top shelf, classic Ak47. Kinda wish I still had one of my Polish underfolders.:facepalm:
Tacticool is for hats...
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c118/slavicshooter/PA020002_zpskdheggeu_edit_1454169322434_zpsh8ujojv 9_edit_1454169812163_zps5gvahl3y.jpg (http://s26.photobucket.com/user/slavicshooter/media/PA020002_zpskdheggeu_edit_1454169322434_zpsh8ujojv 9_edit_1454169812163_zps5gvahl3y.jpg.html)

cowbilly
October 27, 2016, 17:16
I'm a SCAR17 fan boy but I am going to give the .308 ace a try, I think I could like it.

Bubacus
November 03, 2016, 19:42
Atlantic has them in stock. Pre-Election price of $1889:

https://www.atlanticfirearms.com/component/virtuemart/shipping-rifles/iwi-galil-ace-rifle-7-62x51-detail.html?Itemid=0

https://www.atlanticfirearms.com/images/stories/virtuemart/product/galil308rifle%20(19%20of%2021).jpg

VALMET
November 03, 2016, 20:11
I've tried and I just can't get excited about them...

Thorack
November 03, 2016, 20:24
Love It!!

Thorack

Jarhead504
November 03, 2016, 20:39
I like it too, but not for $1900. An original Galil was a great rifle. It is a crime against humanity IMI stopped making them.

Jarhead

Bubacus
November 03, 2016, 21:01
Honestly, I think the stock kills it. Go with an original steel folder or even the adaptations Molot VEPR-12 style stock and it would have been more palatable to the Galil geek.

https://s3.amazonaws.com/mgm-content/sites/armslist/uploads/posts/2014/02/06/2659381_01_vepr_12_rpk_style_folding_stoc_640.jpg

LKY_13
November 04, 2016, 17:22
Barf... I don't think it could possibly be any uglier or ungainly looking.

raexcct2
November 04, 2016, 23:47
I wish they could have made the handguards longer and used a regular Galil gas block not that fugly looking Hadar type gas block and front sight.

NFADLR
November 05, 2016, 00:40
IMI GALIL banned by name.

Only the Magnum research import Galil wasn't banned by name.

Had one, bought in 1990 sold in 2012 or so, unfired.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roberti-Roos_Assault_Weapons_Control_Act_of_1989

I'd entertain arguments the .308 Galil was the best battle rifle, and would have been very happy with a .308 Galil ARM 332 (including bottle opener) not banned by name, shipped to California with a bullet button by the end of the year.

Unfortunately that wasn't the path IMI took.

I expect plastic and composites in modern designs, as in the Glock and all-new Tavor.

I find it out of place on classic guns like the 1911 and AK47.

LKY_13
November 05, 2016, 08:49
Super quick n' dirty photochop of the Galil Ace I'd want to buy...
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u287/LKY13_WRC/G2_zpsifgx6kop.png (http://s171.photobucket.com/user/LKY13_WRC/media/G2_zpsifgx6kop.png.html)

raexcct2
November 05, 2016, 09:24
Super quick n' dirty photochop of the Galil Ace I'd want to buy...
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u287/LKY13_WRC/G2_zpsifgx6kop.png (http://s171.photobucket.com/user/LKY13_WRC/media/G2_zpsifgx6kop.png.html)

Who makes that handguard?

LKY_13
November 05, 2016, 09:44
Who makes that handguard?

Borrowed some parts from pics, but I illustrated the HGs right quick.

gunplumber
November 05, 2016, 11:46
Borrowed some parts from pics, but I illustrated the HGs right quick.

that would work.

raexcct2
November 05, 2016, 11:51
Borrowed some parts from pics, but I illustrated the HGs right quick.

I figured that. Kind of looks like one of the Magpul AK handguards.

Thorack
November 05, 2016, 17:18
Well,

So now we're judging fashion model aesthetics rather than functionality.

What does that picture do better than what is currently shipping. Maybe raise the sight line, so everyone can use AR optics, maybe. You want to talk about hideous and underwhelming looking weapons and you will see a SCAR. IWI makes the Galil the same color at least.

Im not seeing any problems other than using a proprietary stock tube.

Thorack

raexcct2
November 05, 2016, 18:50
It's not aesthetics's if you want to place your non-firing hand further down the rifle barrel but can't because the handguard is too short. That is just my opinion in that I wish they would have made the handguard longer especially if you're going to add a front pistol grip, lights, lasers, etc.

LKY_13
November 05, 2016, 19:02
So now we're judging fashion model aesthetics rather than functionality.

Heh... Fashion model aesthetics, eh? I sure don't see any of that above.

You want to talk about hideous and underwhelming looking weapons and you will see a SCAR.

Okay...? I actually somewhat agree. Although, I'd take one any day over the Galil Ace.

I'm not seeing any problems.

Great. I'm glad you like it. No one is busting your chops.

Thorack
November 05, 2016, 19:26
LKY13,

I know, Im just poking some chops. raexcct2 does have a valid point about the handguard being short. Never really bothered me on my M4 but its nice on my other rifles to have a longer handguard.

Id bet the aftermarket can take that up fairly quickly. We shall see all my AKs will be up on the block soon to fund a Galil after the Tuesday crapstorm dies down.

Thorack

Bubacus
November 05, 2016, 20:30
I must admit. The removal of the front sight and addition of flip ups do look nicer. My friend had a HADAR II and with time and lots of money, got the ARM sights back. Looked much better.

slavicshooter
November 05, 2016, 21:21
Super quick n' dirty photochop of the Galil Ace I'd want to buy...
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u287/LKY13_WRC/G2_zpsifgx6kop.png (http://s171.photobucket.com/user/LKY13_WRC/media/G2_zpsifgx6kop.png.html)

If my access to photobucket was better I'd post my cartoon guy with the boner.:D Me likey G.I.:) The optics though, not so much. But yes, I've got a little tingle in my loins from that photoshop.:] Could you add boobs somehow, LKY13? :-)
~ssİ
ETA:
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c118/slavicshooter/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-11/Screenshot_2016-11-05-22-59-59-1_zpsu0vyqezh.jpg (http://s26.photobucket.com/user/slavicshooter/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-11/Screenshot_2016-11-05-22-59-59-1_zpsu0vyqezh.jpg.html)

AliYahu
November 05, 2016, 21:30
IMI GALIL banned by name.

Only the Magnum research import Galil wasn't banned by name.

Had one, bought in 1990 sold in 2012 or so, unfired.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roberti-Roos_Assault_Weapons_Control_Act_of_1989

IMI no longer exists, so it's a non-issue. And, they can call it whatever they'd like - not to mention, I strongly suspect US assembly of the current tripe.

Eli

Roadmarker
November 06, 2016, 02:03
LKY13,

I know, Im just poking some chops. raexcct2 does have a valid point about the handguard being short. Never really bothered me on my M4 but its nice on my other rifles to have a longer handguard.

Id bet the aftermarket can take that up fairly quickly. We shall see all my AKs will be up on the block soon to fund a Galil after the Tuesday crapstorm dies down.

Thorack

Why do you want a longer handguard? Would the increased weight lower recoil? :D I thought the short handguard was one of the better points. It would be nice to see something like that available for the FAL.

raexcct2
November 06, 2016, 02:38
Why do you want a longer handguard? Would the increased weight lower recoil? :D I thought the short handguard was one of the better points. It would be nice to see something like that available for the FAL.

See post #36. Not much space if you want to add a front pistol grip, light or laser illuminator.

Look at the picture on post #22. Not much space left over for your hand with just a light on there. The handguard should be longer to meet up with the gas block but that is just my opinion.

gunplumber
November 06, 2016, 11:15
other than a general aversion to put an AR type stock on anything, because it is a fundamentally weak design and a compromise to allow for the AR buffer. Putting it on anything that doesn't require it due to a buffer, is uber-retarded. But you parade shit in front of people long enough they begin to see it as normal.

As to the longer handguard, much as it grieves me, I'm actually considering adding the magpul longer handguard to my AKs. It opens up more shooting positions by not locking the non-firing hand to either a small handguard or the front of the mag. AK types are unforgiving should that hand slide too far forward. I am not generally a fan of a front pistol grip, but a little stub - maybe.

Thorack
November 06, 2016, 13:00
GP,

It doesn't use an AR buffer tube exactly, it uses a proprietary triangular tube that wont accept any AR type collapsible butts.

Seems to me that the ACR stock seems to be one of the best out there. So it using it on a Galil might be an aesthetic improvement but I doubt it brings any more functionality than what it currently is shipping with.

Thorack

NFADLR
November 06, 2016, 13:59
That ace thing just ain't got the bling for me like my ARM.

some chink blog stole my pic from 8 years ago so I'm robbing his bandwidth.


To substantiate it's my pic match this pic to the pic of my old van in the flea market forum.
https://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8&client=ms-android-samsung&source=android-browser&q=SITE%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.falfiles.com%2Fforums%2F ++NFADLR+1981+CHEVY+VAN

http://mblogthumb2.phinf.naver.net/20100323_261/ohcw2002dyd_1269337826531FYMrU_jpg/rifles3van_ohcw2002dyd.jpg?type=w800

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j184/mag-lock/Mobile%20Uploads/20150301_123021.jpg
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j184/mag-lock/Mobile%20Uploads/20150301_122951.jpg

Near Sighted Sniper
November 09, 2016, 14:06
I actually like it with the exception of the stock & the price.
If it were in the $1300 - $1400 price range I would buy one & just put up with the stock.
So unless it comes down in price I'm gonna make due without one in my collection.

0302
November 23, 2016, 18:41
scar 17's going for $3000+ is retard land, maybe some competition will bring the price down.

anymanusa
November 26, 2016, 16:18
I love my scar and my ace. I'll buy one of these too .

nearmisses
December 14, 2016, 13:30
I'm with Thorack, I like it but it was "supposed to be cheaper than this . i see one for 1699.99 bid on it on gb. It needed to be 1399.99 tops to be viable. I hate AR's period. Don't like the weak stock design but it was -6 this am now up to a whoping 6. the need to wear clothing and have an adjustable butt lenght just became important to me. Summer time provides other problems in a 4 season state. I like it's triangular crossection. I hate the reciprocating bolt handle on the left. I prefer the L1A1 folding charging handle design and no reciprocating instead but would learn to live with it. Prefer it on the right ala M1/M14. I don't like the SCAR 17 either due mainly price and feels and looks fragile. It's accurate enough but it's "whip thin" barrel doesn't inspire me that accuracy down the road will be anything to write home about. It gets hot faster than a firecracker on the 4th of July! anyone with one of these notice a drop off in accuracy due to round count, point of impact change, walking due to heat? If this rifle works as well as most AK's and shoots NEAR as well as the SCAR new, and goes for 1400 buck I would have it instead of the FAL. If you buy one Thorack I would love to hear how it shoots standard military ball ammo. Would like to see an 18" barrel too. What's with the long handguard idea's? Is that part of this idea to hold your rifle out near as far forward as it will go idea? Looks lame to me, gimmicy, I'm old, been doing it one way too long to bother with fancy. I remember when the army tried out Quick Shot and proved this technique worked on ariel targets better offhand, My 2 cents!

Impala_Guy
December 14, 2016, 17:05
Put a traditional folder on it and drop the price to $1200 and I'd buy the 7.62 X 39 version.......

W.E.G.
December 14, 2016, 18:36
With that ear-splitter brake, at least you'll have the range to yourself.

Incognito
January 10, 2017, 18:35
I have owned a Galil ARM for the past 20 years so I am biased. But even so, there was definitely room for improvements on the original design using current technology. The polymer frame, left side charging handle, and integrated top rail are all interesting. But it is the rear stock that tanks the whole thing. For god's sake can we not have a new rifle come to market that does not use the M4 stock?? A polymer version of the original stock or something like the Swiss folding stock on the 550 would have made this rifle much...MUCH more appealing. I would never get rid of my original Galil, but had they done this right I would have considered adding one to my collection. Maybe they will wise up as Sig eventually did and they will ditch the M4 stock.

raexcct2
January 10, 2017, 21:37
I have owned a Galil ARM for the past 20 years so I am biased. But even so, there was definitely room for improvements on the original design using current technology. The polymer frame, left side charging handle, and integrated top rail are all interesting. But it is the rear stock that tanks the whole thing. For god's sake can we not have a new rifle come to market that does not use the M4 stock?? A polymer version of the original stock or something like the Swiss folding stock on the 550 would have made this rifle much...MUCH more appealing. I would never get rid of my original Galil, but had they done this right I would have considered adding one to my collection. Maybe they will wise up as Sig eventually did and they will ditch the M4 stock.

+1. I like the idea of a SIG 550 folding stock.