View Full Version : Redemption for Past Mistake

Col. Bat Guano
September 22, 2016, 02:16
Many years ago while in college, I purchased my first wheelgun, a Ruger Security Six. I got along swimmingly with that .357 --it handled well, was accurate and a blast to shoot (both literally and figuratively). When I graduated from college, I also graduated up to a Smith & Wesson Model 29. Lured by both the siren song of the .44 Magnum and my preference for autoloaders, my poor Ruger was treated like last year's toys on Christmas morning. I later sold the Security Six, an action which lead me to eventually adopt the credo "Never Sell a Gun."

Well, last week, I finally made up for the transgressions of my youth and filled the missing .357 niche:

I am now providing this Smith & Wesson Model 19-4 with a good home, and by doing so, feel that I have finally atoned for my past sins and naiveté.

(And yes, I still have my Model 29):biggrin:

Andy the Aussie
September 22, 2016, 03:33
19s are a very very good looking and handling revolver. I am partial to L Frames myself but carried a number of K Frames over the years.

September 22, 2016, 06:56
I love my Smith 19-4. It's my most accurate handgun. Love it

September 22, 2016, 07:32
:love: It is bee-yout-tee-full!

Easy on the magnum loads, and I don't recommend shooting 38 Specials unless you like to scrub chambers.
Speer HBWC's with 3.0 grs of Bulleye in mag cases works nicely.

ps; Congrats! I be jellis. :tongue:

Bawana jim
September 22, 2016, 11:53
My second hand gun was a Ruger security six and I had to sell it to get tires for the car. Gun cost about 96 dollars new and was a pleasure to shoot. Learned shooting centerfire pistols on it and took up reloading to feed it. I miss that gun.

September 22, 2016, 13:14
Nice piece! A versatile machine to be sure.

I have a weakness for old S&W's (1950's) but have mostly curbed it in recent years.


September 22, 2016, 14:07
Nice! The Model 19 Combat Magnum is the perfect intersection of the axis of power, portability and controllability in revolvers. It was viewed as THE GUN TO HAVE in law enforcement during the 1960's and 1970's. And it just looks so RIGHT!

They made the 19-4 from 1977-1982, and it was the last of the "pinned and recessed" S&W's.

I had your gun's twin, S/N 48K8073, for a while. P.M. me with your serial number and I'll try to narrow down it's shippind date.

Retired Bum
September 22, 2016, 14:42
Over the years I have owned a number of Model 19's and the stainless clone the Model 66.

My first M19 was a six inch which was superbly accurate with my handloaded mid range .357 LSWC's. Owned another six inch and then several four inch and a lone nickel 2.5 inch. My only Model 19 at present is a 19-4 four inch with the 3 T's.

One should be careful when shooting full power .357 Magnum loads in a M19/66. It is a K frame designed for the .38 Special after all. The Model 19 and the Model 66 were very popular law enforcement handguns back in the day. The Federal Index 357B 125 grain JHP rated at 1450 fps was the top rated round back then. But this load was hard on the M19/66 revolvers. Split forcing cones, gas cut top straps, and stretched frames were the result from constant use of the hot 125 grain JHP loads.

So S&W introduced the new L frame in 1981 as a fix for these problems. The local police and sheriff departments traded in their M19/66's for M686's as did the Indiana State Police. It was common to see police trade in's for sale in the LGS's for as little as $200 during the 1980's.

And so it goes.

The Retired One

September 22, 2016, 19:32
To me, the Model 19 4" is THE Classic definition of a revolver. That beautiful one is certainly no exception


September 22, 2016, 20:14
Congrats- that's a beautiful 19! I've always had an affinity for older S&Ws

September 23, 2016, 19:09
Easy on the magnum loads, and I don't recommend shooting 38 Specials unless you like to scrub chambers.

A nice old Model 10 is perfect if you want to shoot .38SPL without gumming up the chambers. They're very good deals on them these days.


Timber Wolf
September 24, 2016, 14:24
That is a really nice Smith but it does not make up for the Ruger. Now go find another Security. I traded away a 4" Model 28 many, many years ago. Bought a nicer one a couple of years back to replace it. That is redemption!:biggrin:

September 26, 2016, 03:08
I sold my custom S&W M28 and 1955 Target 20 years ago when I first got assigned to Hill AFB, Utah and have regretted it ever since.

The M28 was converted to double action only but the trigger pull was around 4-5 pounds and very smooth. Felt lighter than it really was. I wish I had that pistol back. :sad:

September 26, 2016, 20:18
Let the 19 go to an old friend, it was stolen from him, Heck whats not to like about a smith revolver? :)

October 02, 2016, 12:29
my dad pistol whipped a guy with a security six. worked great. didn't even scratchit.

October 10, 2016, 09:10
I have that exqct same gun, except it's a 19-2 built in 1963. It's a year older than I am.

AZ Dave
October 14, 2016, 17:40
Good for you! Nothing is as beautiful as a blued S&W. Not even a Python in my opinion. I have a 4" 28 that is my all time favorite!