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cwo4uscgret
May 19, 2016, 00:52
Beretta Models 1200 and the model 1201. The 1201 was made in several versions; the one I just acquired is the 1201 FP; made by Beretta for military and law enforcement applications; this one has a ghost ring rear sight and an 18-1/4" barrel. Like the Benelli M1 it is a semi-automatic that uses the inertia from the recoil spring for its action. Supposedly fast, it is said that you can fire 5 rounds before the 1 empty hull hits the ground. I don't know if I can pull the trigger that fast! But I will try.

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SPEEDGUNNER
May 19, 2016, 07:30
They say the Benelli will fire 8 before the first empty hits the ground...it does, I have one. Very nice weapons. Enjoy.

J. Armstrong
May 19, 2016, 07:43
Actually, the M1S90s predecessor was the Benelli M121. Had one, wish I'd kept it. Had a 1200 as well, now have the S90. I liked the 121s ergos best, YMMV.

All nice shotguns, very reliable although reduced recoil and light loads are out ( unless you have the appropriate spring kit ). A bit more kick than a gas gun, but not objectionable, IMHO ( although I'm not a 3" mag guy, either ;) ) and they do cycle like lightning !!

Shotguns aren't first tier weapons anymore at Casa Armstrong, but the S90 and a couple of High Standard pumps aren't going anywhere anytime soon, I just like them too much :D

Be careful with that Sidesaddle shell holder. Some inertia guns don't like the added mass and reliability suffers. Also, after some use it will start to mar the side of the alloy receiver - AMHIK !!! I still have the one I pulled off the S90 for that reason.

yovinny
May 19, 2016, 08:16
I like the 1201, had one identical to that years ago and let it go for a gas gun.
Now I have one of the early pre-ban style 1201's, bought it in the MP from somebody here, just a couple of years ago.
The early pre-ban ones have the pistol grip stock & longer 20 1/2" barrel, with the rear sight on the barrel instead of receiver.

Their very fast, but kick a whole bunch more than the gas guns...
Always feels about like switching back to a pump gun to me.

My current one cycles everything I've stuffed in it, including 1 oz skeet loads.
I bring it and an 1897 riot to one of my buddies annual hog roast & skeet shoots :biggrin:

Cheers, YV

Impala_Guy
May 19, 2016, 11:03
Browning Auto 5 is just as fast and wont short stroke when held away from the shoulder or against a padded jacket.

cwo4uscgret
May 19, 2016, 18:37
J Armstrong - I also have an M121 - wood stock. My sources tell me that Beretta replaced the 1201FP by making the M1 Super 90 - not worth arguing sources etc. They are both awesome shotguns.

I've owned 3 High Standard K1200 RIOT guns; two with bead front sights, one with rifle sights. I have two at present; including one with the rifle sights. Both have 18-1/8" barrels! I also have a FABARMS FP6 - marked with HK - their imported gun after they stopped marking Benellis with the HK logo.

bulletslap
May 19, 2016, 21:56
I have read that Winchester was paid royalties on Carbine Williams floating chamber patents for the Montefeltro bolt.

fal762
June 08, 2016, 18:48
I know I'm late to this party but I've got a 121 M1 also. Mine has the wood stock with the sling mount built in. It will shoot as fast as I can pull the trigger. Bought it in the early '90s and will never get rid of it!!

VALMET
June 08, 2016, 19:50
Actually, the M1S90s predecessor was the Benelli M121. Had one, wish I'd kept it. Had a 1200 as well, now have the S90. I liked the 121s ergos best, YMMV.

All nice shotguns, very reliable although reduced recoil and light loads are out ( unless you have the appropriate spring kit ). A bit more kick than a gas gun, but not objectionable, IMHO ( although I'm not a 3" mag guy, either ;) ) and they do cycle like lightning !!

Shotguns aren't first tier weapons anymore at Casa Armstrong, but the S90 and a couple of High Standard pumps aren't going anywhere anytime soon, I just like them too much :D

Be careful with that Sidesaddle shell holder. Some inertia guns don't like the added mass and reliability suffers. Also, after some use it will start to mar the side of the alloy receiver - AMHIK !!! I still have the one I pulled off the S90 for that reason.

Benelli M121s are sweeeeeeet...don't see many around that's for sure.

cwo4uscgret
December 13, 2016, 13:28
http://iwantthatknife.com/Gallery/albums/range-visit/benelli.jpg
http://iwantthatknife.com/Gallery/albums/range-visit/benelli3.jpg

And here's the HK marked Fabarms:

http://iwantthatknife.com/Gallery/albums/1911/FP6_4.jpg
http://iwantthatknife.com/Gallery/albums/1911/FP6_1.jpg

I do like shotguns!

SWOHFAL
December 14, 2016, 13:21
Those Fabarms any good? I read a former HK employee, over at HKPro, badmouth them as having a lot of warranty issues.

lowprone
December 14, 2016, 13:41
I too have a M121, was on the prize table at a Ernie Hill match in
Arizona and picked by a well known pistolero of the day.
He casually mentioned he had no interest in it, but it was the last
firearm still on table.
I casually offered to purchase it for a nominal cash price and he
accepted it, still have it, always will.
Fugly beech stock, heavy, has never faltered.
I have even used it for pheasants during season w/plug.

mountainman
December 14, 2016, 16:50
I gots parts for an SL80. Where does that fall in the timeline? It was also I think made by HK. Looks like it needs an upper and a barrel.

TenTea
December 14, 2016, 18:49
I too have a M121, was on the prize table at a Ernie Hill match in
Arizona and picked by a well known pistolero of the day.


As in Ernie Hill Speed Leather?

If so, I have one of his old dual 1911 mag pouches, which is one of my favorites!

lowprone
December 15, 2016, 16:35
Yes he used to have a championship match @ Rio Salado range
by Usery Pass in Mesa.