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rtracy111
April 10, 2016, 09:11
If one found a MARS import Cetme, Safe Queen. What would the value be on said item? I am thinking in the $3,000 to $4,000 range. Now here is the second question what if there are two with consecutive S/N :eek:. What would the pair be worth?

VALMET
April 10, 2016, 09:16
Do the CEETMEs in question have the more common wood forearm or the metal? Those guns seem to be hovering between the $2800-3.2k mark with a few bringing slightly more. The metal HG configuration seems to bring a bit more as there are fewer of them. Consecutive pair to a serious collector I'd think $7-8k.

hansellhd
April 10, 2016, 11:03
If one found a MARS import Cetme, Safe Queen. What would the value be on said item? I am thinking in the $3,000 to $4,000 range. Now here is the second question what if there are two with consecutive S/N :eek:. What would the pair be worth?

If they are both In Excellent condition I would say 8K. From what I can see on GB just about any MARS in decent condition is now going for >3.5K.
If I sold my MARS I wound not take less than 4k. It's not been fired since leaving the factory in Spain.

http://i1036.photobucket.com/albums/a443/hansellhd/CetmeM001.jpg (http://s1036.photobucket.com/user/hansellhd/media/CetmeM001.jpg.html)

http://i1036.photobucket.com/albums/a443/hansellhd/Spain2001.jpg (http://s1036.photobucket.com/user/hansellhd/media/Spain2001.jpg.html)
I found this one at a gun show back in 2011, payed 3K for it at that time. Only 2700 imported into the U.S. (1965/71)

HK91 Rifles are a dime a dozen on GB, just try finding one of these.

rtracy111
April 10, 2016, 13:48
They are as posted above with the wood. I know the owner very well and they are currently in storage in AZ. He bought both back in the early 80's I am not sure if they are unfired but I know they have not been shot by him. He has a nice collection of kits of all types along with several complete weapons that he acquired from the early 80's to mid 90's. I am not really sure why but he dosn't want his son to inherit or get into the gun hobby. They live in Chicago and the only reason that I can come up with is its due to the state laws. I may get the whole collection for the drive to AZ to pick it up.

pre1989
April 10, 2016, 17:19
I have seen two on GB both went for 2-2.5k or so

If new in the box and the numbers def a lot easy 8k or so


I assume both are early pre zip code marked guns ?



I think there is a full auto model on GB ight now for 10k or so

rtracy111
April 10, 2016, 22:48
From what I understand they were amnesty Cetme's that were brought in by MARS, he has lived in Chicago all of his life. He did state that they were on a list an that they had a pin brazed in. At the time and from his description, I was thinking that the pin was in the selector slide area to keep it from the third spot. He did state that they are on an amnesty list with the BATF just like the G series FALS, which again he has a couple, so he seems to know what he is talking about. I can find the FAL list and have used it a couple times, although it takes some digging. I cannot find anything in regards to the Cetme. Were there others brought in by MARS that were actually put on an amnesty list? He did stats that only 300 made it in on the list.

gunplumber
April 11, 2016, 07:40
FWIW, like an early G3 semi (Golden State/Santa Fe), it's not a true swing down lower. There is a shelf, and the shelf is drilled, but further back. Won't align with a select fire trigger group. There is no "amnesty" - it was the standard back then. G3 used a coil spring attached to the grip frame for sear - not part of the trigger mechanism housing.

hansellhd
April 11, 2016, 09:43
I have seen two on GB both went for 2-2.5k or so

If new in the box and the numbers def a lot easy 8k or so


I assume both are early pre zip code marked guns ?



I think there is a full auto model on GB ight now for 10k or so

Next time you see a CETME MARS selling for 2-2.5K PM me, I would pay that in a NY Min.

http://i1036.photobucket.com/albums/a443/hansellhd/46057ed4-907b-4d22-a3d5-9f8c4329aa0e_zps2sqw8h7d.jpg (http://s1036.photobucket.com/user/hansellhd/media/46057ed4-907b-4d22-a3d5-9f8c4329aa0e_zps2sqw8h7d.jpg.html)

AGG
April 11, 2016, 10:58
What are the serials??? :)

Tony

rtracy111
April 11, 2016, 12:02
I do not know the S/N to date. All I know is what I saw in photos of his weapons that are in storage. He is pretty proud of these, I may be able to get S/N from him but as stated most of the items were put into storage 20 years ago. He has some things in Chicago but mainly clips, drums and partial kits. When he was married in 96 he quickly found out his new wife was an anti gun zealot. He shipped everything to AZ and had it placed into storage. When I first met this gentleman 16 or so years ago he came across as a zealot himself. Self made man with more money then I can dream. The MP40 kit I posted a couple months ago was a gift the last time I saw him face to face. I have seen a case with 24 c stamped 100 round Thompson drums in one of his warehouses about a year ago. At the time I had a very limited knowledge of everything Tommie but I now know what those are worth :uhoh:.

rtracy111
April 11, 2016, 12:11
Thanks for the input Gunplumber.

AliYahu
April 11, 2016, 12:56
My father had one he bought new - he was an FFL/SOT at the time - that had a semi-marked trigger group but was select-fire. Somebody screwed up!

Eli

pre1989
April 11, 2016, 17:06
My father had one he bought new - he was an FFL/SOT at the time - that had a semi-marked trigger group but was select-fire. Somebody screwed up!

Eli


A few of the pre 86 FA ones I have seen are marked S/F but are FA ... Legal modded back in the day