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MajHenryWest
March 06, 2016, 13:32
I have an unfired, in the box .22lr Browning Buckmark pistol.

It is approximately 30 years old. Looks just like the one in the photo shown.

I couldn't find any just like it on Gunbroker.

Any ideas as to value? Are early Buckmarks collectible (yet)?

Thank You!

http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w72/dbmoa1/early_model_Buck_Mark_with_first_style_grips_zpsx0 7xpdza.jpg (http://s173.photobucket.com/user/dbmoa1/media/early_model_Buck_Mark_with_first_style_grips_zpsx0 7xpdza.jpg.html)

douglas
March 06, 2016, 21:17
No idea what the current value is or if it is collectible at this time. I am hunting for a nice .22 semi in order to teach my children to shoot. Please drop me an pm if you decide to put it on the market.

Rimfire central is a good website for.22 pistols.
http://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums/index.php

yovinny
March 07, 2016, 09:15
I know they didnt use those style grips long, is that a first year 85' (PV date code) ?

First year models are always desirable and usually bring a premium to collectors, especially NIB. That said, I have no idea what it would be worth, I only collect 91' (NZ) Brownings.

MAINER
March 07, 2016, 14:32
I know they didnt use those style grips long, is that a first year 85' (PV date code) ?

First year models are always desirable and usually bring a premium to collectors, especially NIB. That said, I have no idea what it would be worth, I only collect 91' (NZ) Brownings.

I bought mine in 1990 and it came with those same flat plastic grips. Not sure when the newer rubber ones came out, but I bought a set from Browning as soon as they did.

yovinny
March 07, 2016, 17:06
I bought mine in 1990 and it came with those same flat plastic grips. Not sure when the newer rubber ones came out, but I bought a set from Browning as soon as they did.

As in it's a 1990 (NM code) made buck mark Mainer ?

My 4 are all 91' made and they came with rubber or wood grips, but I was in the gun store selling them 89'-94' and I dont recall seeing those grips on any that went through my hands new...I was thinking they only used them for a year or 2, but it could always be CRSS too :whistling:

MajHenryWest
March 07, 2016, 18:38
I photographed the Buckmark I own. It does not have the slabside grips like in the "stock" photo I included in my original post.

It does have a much nicer rear sight than I remember, though (I haven't looked at this pistol in years). Serial number is 655NW358xx.

Included is a photo of the end label, with S/N covered up.

Did these come with two magazines or one?

PHOTOS BELOW:

http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w72/dbmoa1/100_1674_zpsigajvhba.jpg (http://s173.photobucket.com/user/dbmoa1/media/100_1674_zpsigajvhba.jpg.html)


http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w72/dbmoa1/100_1675_zpscltx2yhd.jpg (http://s173.photobucket.com/user/dbmoa1/media/100_1675_zpscltx2yhd.jpg.html)


http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w72/dbmoa1/100B1630_zpstv5otgvx.jpg (http://s173.photobucket.com/user/dbmoa1/media/100B1630_zpstv5otgvx.jpg.html)


http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w72/dbmoa1/100B1620_zpsqnye5owc.jpg (http://s173.photobucket.com/user/dbmoa1/media/100B1620_zpsqnye5owc.jpg.html)

tac-40
March 07, 2016, 23:22
MHW, that one looks like mine. I got mine from my LGS used. It was a range rental and had about a bazillion rounds through it. After a week of steady cleaning I could see the bore features again after all the leading was gone. Put in some fresh ammo and took it to the range. Still more accurate than I am, ie., a nice shooter. One feature I didn't like was the plastic top mount for the rear sight. It tended to crack around the retaining screw hole. I replaced mine with a rail rear sight combo made from aluminum. Now I have a decent and stable rear sight with the option of mounting an optic.

Here is what I have on mine: http://www.powerfactorshooting.com/v/vspfiles/photos/tacsol-bkmark-scope-mount-sigh-2.jpg

I know this doesn't help with the value question, but it does say they are damn fine guns that are great shooters,

MajHenryWest
March 08, 2016, 00:39
Tac40:

Thanks for your comments.

I had never noticed that the sight mount was made of plastic!


Cheers.

yovinny
March 08, 2016, 08:38
NW would be 94'

Any idea year or code on yours Tac ?

I have no idea when they switched to a plastic base, didnt even realize they did.
All my 91's are black anodized aluminum, as the one in the pic of your 94' looks to be also.

MAINER
March 08, 2016, 11:03
Definitely purchased in Nov. 1990 Ser. was 655NM*****. My notecard says it was made in 1990, but that was written in by me. I must have found a source of info telling me that, but not sure where now. It came in a Styrofoam tray with cardboard sleeve and one magazine. :redface:
The owner Manual is about half the size shown in the pic.


Other than the flat plastic grips, my rear sight is made of steel and adj. for elevation only. Different than any pictured, but standard equipment in '90. The Buckmark was offered in a "Plus" model that differed only in having wood laminate stocks that year. A "Target, Silhouette, and Varmit" model was available, but they were hardly holster pistols.

According to a bunch of old Browning catalogs I have, your Buckmark would have to be at least a '91 as a similar model is shown in an Oct. '91 catalog. Yovinny is most probably right about the date of manufacture.


I have another Browning catalog showing the pistol as in post #1 and declaring it as "NEW", but can't find a date on the catalog, maybe '85?

yovinny
March 08, 2016, 11:58
Browning Buckmark dates;
http://www.browning.com/support/date-your-firearm/buck-mark--22-caliber-pistol.html

BTW; all mine came with only 1 mag...But cdnn had them for like $19.99 last I checked, which is a couple of bucks cheaper than I paid for my extras back in the 90's.

fmj_shooter
March 08, 2016, 13:08
No idea what the current value is or if it is collectible at this time. I am hunting for a nice .22 semi in order to teach my children to shoot. Please drop me an pm if you decide to put it on the market.

Rimfire central is a good website for.22 pistols.
http://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums/index.php

You cannot go wrong with a Buckmark. My dad got me one when I started, it's probably seen 50K rounds since then. I've changed barrels twice, not from wear and tear. I just went with a Tac Sol, then a threaded Tac Sol for my can.

The Ruger MkI's and II's are also great, but most folks cannot change the barrels themselves and often buy whole top ends.

The Rugers can be had for less money though.

fmj_shooter
March 08, 2016, 13:21
FWIW

I checked the Blue Book of Gun Values for just a standard Buckmark.
Bear in mind that this is to be taken with a grain of salt. Blue Book tends to fall behind on values between updates.

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j6/FMJShooter/Buckmark%20BBGV_zpsshuzm0if.jpg

MajHenryWest
March 08, 2016, 14:51
Thanks for all the feedback guys. Much appreciated.

tac-40
March 08, 2016, 18:22
MHW, mine has the NZ date code for a 1991 year of manufacture and the serial number puts it most likely in the last part of the year.

http://www.browning.com/support/date-your-firearm/buck-mark--22-caliber-pistol.html

Take a look at the OP's box picture. States MOLDED COMPOSITE PRO TARGET which is the rear sight and mount.

Got this from Guns.com:

Browning has made more models of the Buck Mark than you can count on every finger and toe. Since 1985 we can catalog no less than thirty variants, subvariants, and sub-sub variants of this popular little .22LR pistol. No matter what the model these guns all have the same basic action, manipulation and nomenclature as well as caliber and magazine. Sorry, there have been no .22WMR Buck Marks (as of yet).

http://www.guns.com/2014/03/13/browning-buckmark-30-years-plinking-excellence-video/

yovinny
March 09, 2016, 08:42
The only one of mine I've had completely apart was the alum bull barrel target model and it most assuredly has an aluminum base,,,,I assumed the others had also.
I stand corrected and disappointed if the others are really plastic :sad:

MAINER
March 09, 2016, 09:25
from Guns.com:

[b] Sorry, there have been no .22WMR Buck Marks (as of yet).

RATS! :sad:

tac-40
March 09, 2016, 14:06
Doing some research on the rear sight sage I found this from Brownell's

Browning Buck Mark rear sight assemblies

There are four rear sight assemblies used on the Buck Mark .22 Caliber pistol. PO52759 is the rear sight assembly unique to Buck Mark models produced prior to 1992. This sight has been discontinued.

#149-000-973 is a rear sight assembly manufactured by Millett for Browning. This sight was used on early Buck Mark Silhouette Models. There is no serial number cut off to determine application. The distinguishing feature is that the sight mounts directly into a mill cut in the sight rib. It mounts by means of a traversing pin. The distance from the mounting pin to the elevation screw is a nominal .700 inch. Later model Silhouettes use the #149-000-898 Pro Target series sight.

#149-000-898 and #149-000-899 are rear sight assemblies that Browning refers to as the Pro Target rear sight assembly. This is used on Buck Mark Standard through target models, made from 1992 to date. Both sights are the same height and differ only in the width. These sights are complete unit, base and sight leaf. They attach via a screw and a cross pin. The screw comes through the sight rib and into a threaded hole in the underside of the integral sight base. The cross pin traverses the sight rib and passed through the boss on the underside of the integral base. The two sights have the same height of blade, .276". The sights differ in the width of the sight notch, .123" on the #149-000-899, and .075" on the #149-000-898.

fmj_shooter
March 09, 2016, 23:45
These two were made in '08 and '09.
The factory rear on the Green barreled one is aluminum.

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j6/FMJShooter/KIMG0350_zpsxotqjoie.jpg

yovinny
March 10, 2016, 08:29
I checked out mine last night.
I have 3 of my 91's here, the prior mentioned target model and 2 field models (4" & 5.5")
All have aluminum and not plastic base rails...Guess I got lucky :love:

The target model wears a millet rear sight, but the field models both have a smaller, simpler, fully adjustable steel rear sight.
Those sights are adjustable for elevation with a screw slot, but use small opposed allen set screws for windage adjustment.
My 4th is NIB and packed away, but I'll have to dig it out and see what it has when I find some time.

Cheers, YV

MajHenryWest
March 10, 2016, 15:07
So if I were to put this up for sale, what would be a reasonable price?

yovinny
March 10, 2016, 15:32
I'd ask $350.

tac-40
March 10, 2016, 15:38
GunBroker has them at low end for $350-400 and on the high end just slightly north of $600.

fmj_shooter
March 10, 2016, 16:58
So if I were to put this up for sale, what would be a reasonable price?

It will sell for $350 for sure. They are quality guns. Mags are expensive.

MajHenryWest
March 12, 2016, 21:55
Thanks Again Guys.

Given that it is basically new in the box, I think I will sell it.

idsubgun
March 25, 2016, 18:17
If anyone wants a spare barrel for their Buckmark, I have some new take-off barrels. The ones with an "X" thru the number are already sold.
I did see some slight surface rust on the outside from the humidity in my shop. Some gun oil and 0000 steel wool can take care of that.

http://i395.photobucket.com/albums/pp40/bjplowman/Items%20For%20Sale/copy%20of%20Buckmark%20barrels_zpsavifjfah.jpg (http://s395.photobucket.com/user/bjplowman/media/Items%20For%20Sale/copy%20of%20Buckmark%20barrels_zpsavifjfah.jpg.htm l)