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K. Funk
February 27, 2016, 17:29
I picked up a super nice Ruger 77 stainless in .350 Remington Mag. Thought it would make an excellent bear gun. And it probably will if I can ever find any brass less then $2 ea!! Loaded ammo?? FORGETABOUTIT!!

krf

W.E.G.
February 27, 2016, 18:18
$100 worth of brass should easily last you the lifetime (that you will use it) of that rifle.

https://www.grafs.com/retail/catalog/product/productId/22573

Hell yes its expensive - compared to 30-06 brass.
But, you probably had a notion as to that when you bought the thing.

I'll venture that 99% of the owners of the .350 Rem Mag haven't fired their rifle 100 times.
In a sporter-weight rifle, recoil is gonna be impressive.
200 grain bullet at 3000 fps puts it in the .300 Win Mag category of recoil.

Artful
February 27, 2016, 20:40
And that's why I love my .358 WCF Savage 99 - just neck up 308 brass. :biggrin:

But I feel your pain - 300 Win Mag and 375 H&H Mag ain't growing on trees for me either.

MACV
February 27, 2016, 21:16
That 350 mag is a hammer. Plenty enough cartridge for anything in North America. I've always been interested in those big "35s". I'd like to find a 35 Whelen. You never see them around the gun shops in Missouri though.

Andy the Aussie
February 27, 2016, 21:41
My .300WM with a 180 at @3000fps is not exactly comfortable, but as a hunting rifle it is not meant to be shot as much as carried. I HATE it from the bench.

K. Funk
February 27, 2016, 21:59
I had a notion that it wasn't an everyday cartridge, but I had no idea how hard to find the brass would be. I agree that 50 cases will last a lifetime, but I am the kind of guy that likes to have many hundreds on hand JIC. I have 50 here now, just ordered 75 more. I'll hit the Remington brass as soon as their seasonal run commences. I was able to pick up quite a few bullets between 200 and 250gr for load development. Seems like the go to powder is IMR 4320 according to the manuals.

krf

yovinny
February 28, 2016, 18:37
I'm not familiar with the 77 Ruger in 350 RM, didnt even realize they ever made one.
Is it a short action carbine like the original Remmy's or ?

I had a 35 Whelen in a Remmy pump for awhile when I lived in PA, but it wasent really that accurate and went down the road. I like the whelen though, been wanting to get or maybe build one at some point.

Cheers, YV

W.E.G.
February 28, 2016, 18:49
Don't you already have 10,000 rounds of 7.62 and another 10,000 rounds of 5.56?

That's before we even start counting all the .22 LR you neckbearded.

You'll be fine with 100 rounds of .350 Rem. Mag.
Frankly, you'll probably be fine with 20 rounds.

You can worry about being out of .350 when you run out of all that other ammo.

Or, maybe I'm just "projecting."
I think I could shoot 100 rounds a day, and still be shooting on my 90th birthday.
If only the very act of buying ammo wasn't such fun (or an obsession).

I can stop any time.

Hollis Wood
February 28, 2016, 19:00
That 350 mag is a hammer. Plenty enough cartridge for anything in North America. I've always been interested in those big "35s". I'd like to find a 35 Whelen. You never see them around the gun shops in Missouri though.

Sent you a PM

RG Coburn
February 28, 2016, 22:23
Believe it or not,CVA makes their "scout" single shot in .35 Whelen.
I bought one in .44 mag for hunting here in southern Michigan,and its a pretty well built piece for the money.
http://cva.com/Scout-Rifle-from-CVA.php

Andy the Aussie
February 28, 2016, 23:10
You'll be fine with 100 rounds of .350 Rem. Mag.
Frankly, you'll probably be fine with 20 rounds. ....maybe maybe not Gary, last year I was setting off 20round +/- of .375H&H a days each day I was in the bush (a week at a time) happily. Just depends on the use the rifle is put to.

richbug
March 01, 2016, 07:10
20ish years ago when "Ames" went out of business, they had 6.5 and 350 Remington for $1 a box. I bought a bunch of ammo then, but had no idea what I would do with that stuff(before the Remington short mags made a comeback), so I left it.

W.E.G.
March 01, 2016, 08:29
....maybe maybe not Gary, last year I was setting off 20round +/- of .375H&H a days each day I was in the bush (a week at a time) happily. Just depends on the use the rifle is put to.

Thank God somebody is doing it!



http://falfiles.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=82066&stc=1&d=1456838938

BUFF
March 01, 2016, 18:49
I had a Remington 700 Classic in .350 Rem Mag. Never even shot it before I sold it.

Andy the Aussie
March 01, 2016, 23:09
Thank God somebody is doing it!



http://falfiles.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=82066&stc=1&d=1456838938...... and that was here in Australia...not counting the time in Mozambique .. ;)

yovinny
March 02, 2016, 13:00
....maybe maybe not Gary, last year I was setting off 20round +/- of .375H&H a days each day I was in the bush (a week at a time) happily. Just depends on the use the rifle is put to.

Damn Andy,,,
I know you've got some bad ass snakes there, but the H&H is your walkabout caliber ? :uhoh:

Andy the Aussie
March 02, 2016, 13:36
Damn Andy,,,
I know you've got some bad ass snakes there, but the H&H is your walkabout caliber ? :uhoh:........ mostly for Drop Bears and the large Carnivorous Wombats we get in a few places I hunt... you just can't be too careful. !!!!!!:beer::bigangel:

Invictus77
March 02, 2016, 13:47
the large Carnivorous Wombats we get in a few places

I think I may have referred to my ex-wife once as a "large carnivorous wombat". :whistling:

Pretty certain it did not earn me any extra points with the judge during property settlement :facepalm:

tac-40
March 02, 2016, 18:07
$1 per case form these guys:

http://www.lohmanarms.com/product-p/remu350.htm

richbug
March 04, 2016, 07:46
One beauty of these Remington Shorts is you can form them out of any worn out, cracked neck, belted magnum case.

alphadog58
March 21, 2016, 13:16
I had a 35 Whelen in a Remmy pump for awhile when I lived in PA, but it wasent really that accurate and went down the road. I like the whelen though, been wanting to get or maybe build one at some point.


I have one. Not the greatest trigger, but still shoots very well. Drops whitetails DRT. Not a fun range gun, though.
Larry

Jarhead504
April 01, 2016, 14:44
My .300WM with a 180 at @3000fps is not exactly comfortable, but as a hunting rifle it is not meant to be shot as much as carried. I HATE it from the bench.

"Recoil is for a split second but gravity is all day long", that's what my Dad used to say about carrying a hunting rifle.

Jarhead

ALL FAL
April 03, 2016, 00:02
....maybe maybe not Gary, last year I was setting off 20round +/- of .375H&H a days each day I was in the bush (a week at a time) happily. Just depends on the use the rifle is put to.

After hunting Alaska guiding, Andy knows what I know about the .375H+H, it is a Pusher on recoil, not a snapper like the .300Win. Standard loads in .375 generate about 35lbs of free recoil, like that of a 12ga.

Every animal I have shot with the .375 died in its tracks, fell over kaput.

.350 Rem. will snap ya as will the .450 Alaskan. Friend has one for sale cheep right now.

Andy the Aussie
April 03, 2016, 03:15
"Recoil is for a split second but gravity is all day long", that's what my Dad used to say about carrying a hunting rifle.

Jarhead ..... I hear you and your Dad mate !!!!!!

After hunting Alaska guiding, Andy knows what I know about the .375H+H, it is a Pusher on recoil, not a snapper like the .300Win. Standard loads in .375 generate about 35lbs of free recoil, like that of a 12ga.

Every animal I have shot with the .375 died in its tracks, fell over kaput.
.... absolutely !!!!! The .375 is just a great killer. One a whole range of game, but that was it was designed for I guess. I bought mine when I was about 14 and shot it plenty in the years since. I obviously really reacquainted myself with it for the trip last year. I can honestly say I thoroughly enjoy using it.... :beer::beer:

ALL FAL
April 03, 2016, 15:16
I had my .375 and an .06 that would shoot to the same point of aim as I tuned my loads for that, hardly ever missed a shot, no matter which rifle I picked up.

The best thing about the .375 is the same energy at 300yds as an .06 has AT the Muzzle. Hehe, that's why it works so well.

Hmm, .375X51???? special FAL Food? Remember Elmer Keith ? he was the biggest fan of .338 cal. bullets through .38, so .38X51 FALFILER, just thinking less expensive and available bullets..

ALL FAL
April 04, 2016, 23:38
I'll be watching for .350 components for you, Nosler is near me and I have friends everywhere, so, may make a lucky find.

bulletslap
April 07, 2016, 21:40
My old shooting mentor owned a remington 600 in 350 rem mag 40 or more years ago, recoil was noticable. After he died I ask the widow if i could purchase it,, one of his sorry daughters made off with it and sold it for drug money.:facepalm:

K. Funk
April 08, 2016, 04:58
I appreciate all of the discussion. I have since acquired more Nosler brass, so I think I am good. I have a good selection of bullets and a few pounds of IMR 4320. I have my first load worked up, just waiting for some range time, maybe this weekend.

krf

justashooter
April 08, 2016, 09:24
The 200 grain bullets you have may be lightly constructed for use in 35 Remington, in which case they will fail to penetrate on the next big grizzly you have to shoot in Myerstown.

gunseller
April 09, 2016, 19:16
In Iowa I have 2 35 Whelens. Had the gunsmith build the second one for me last year. Several years ago I almost bought a 350 mag in a 660 Rem. Always wished I would have owned it. I have had bad luck using 200 grain bullets in my 35s. They blow up inside deer. Good luck with your new toy.
Steve

K. Funk
April 09, 2016, 20:25
The 200's I have are round nose Sierra's for a .35 rem. They will be for plinking if there is such a thing. The 225's and 250's are Nosler partitions. They should take care of the Myerstown grizzly's. Did I tell you about the Remington 673 I just got??

krf

K. Funk
April 10, 2016, 13:54
Range report...So I took the rifle out to the range today since the 5-8" of snow predicted yesterday did not materialize. Good news is that the rifle bore sighted pretty well. Bad news is that the 10 rounds of 250 gr Nosler Partitions I loaded up were seated out just a tad too long to allow them to fit in the magazine, so I had to single load. The good news is that 3 shots at 25 yds made one hole. The bad news is that they were about 6" low. The good news is that the calculated adjustment brought the group right in at 100yds, about 1-1/2" 3 shot group. The bad news is that after 9 rounds, my almost healed shoulder now feels re-traumatized, we'll see if I can lift a cup of coffee tomorrow. The good news is that I saved the 10th round for a Myerstown Grizzly that kept poking his head up behind the 100 yd target holders. Now what kind of critter decides to build his house behind the targets at a gun club? .350 Rem Mag may be overkill for a Myerstown gopher, er, uh, I mean grizzly, but it did look ferocious and I can report that the citizens of Myerstown are now safe.

Overall, I am very pleased with the rifle. If I can whip myself back into shape over the next 7 months, I will be ready for bear season.

krf

justashooter
April 11, 2016, 10:32
if you want I can hook you up with guided black bear hunting in Maine that has 40-60% success rate for about $1500 a 5 day week including housing and baited stands. some big bears (as big as 800 lbs) coming off the Stratton range.

renegade99
April 16, 2016, 22:36
Hope you get your shoulder back in shape. I have .350 Rem mag I built on a Montana M99 action that I just love, fortunately I am not bothered with recoil but even my 14 yr old grandson doesn't mind it too much, at least he keeps coming back for more, which is something he doesn't do with my .416 Rem mag in a Ruger Grand African, don't understand why, I don't think it kicks that hard. He just says it kills everything in front of it and hurts everything behind it.

K. Funk
May 15, 2016, 17:06
Update...Shoulder is feeling pretty good. Took the Ruger 77 out again with the 250gr bullets seated about .020" deeper. They cycle fine and the point of impact did not change all that much. The not so good news is that I took a Remington 673 Guide Gun along with me, also in .350 Rem Mag, and I'll be damned if the bullets are still seated too long for it!! My overall length was about 2.850" or there abouts. Fit the Ruger fine, just not the Remington. So, I check my Nosler manual, COL is 2.800!! I have to set these back another 0.050!! So, back to the bench to load up a fresh batch. I think I'll set them to about 2.790" just to be safe!! Overall, I am pleased, the recoil did not bother me much as all. It will be interesting to see if the set-back affects accuracy of either. Using 54.0 gr IMR 4320

krf

yovinny
May 17, 2016, 11:24
I believe the 763 was built on the short model 7 action.
Is the 77 also on a 308 sized short action or did they use the long action and a spacer in the mag ?