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Sudden Death
February 13, 2016, 12:21
Shout out to adam762 for the fine hot blue and a complete barrel conversion on my BGS Model B build. Bluing used was Brownell's Oxynate#7 with a three tank setup, but with two rinse cycles,(pre-post)dip, along with submersion in water displacing oil after hot blue.

Finish is a nice velvety matte black with a minimum of color variance between components. Hot bluing has a steep learning curve and even those whom have considerable bluing experience will find it much harder than the typical maganese phosphate process. Temperature, salt solution, alloy content, surface prep all play a critical role in how well or how poorly the final product will appear. Small variances in a recipe can lead to major changes in final results.

Adam has come through in flying colors in this regard.

As to wait times, I must say that I knew it would be considerably longer than anticipated as I knew both Adam and his friend,(whom originally was to do the bluing), were experiencing extenuating circumstances. It was not my say to reveal those problems on a public forum, or to ask anyone to understand them because at the time, it would seem like just another excuse for a total lack of concern. I can assure you though, it was not a lack of concern, as Mr. Burg went above and beyond to secure his own bluing setup in order to complete all of our projects.

Anyway, I hope these photos can shed some light on Adam's first bluing attempt with the new set-up. The result speaks for itself, fine attention to detail and a fantastic bluing job. Better than the job I received from a company that has been hot bluing for over 20 years.

In addition to the BGS Barrel Conversions/Bluing, he offers complete refinishing services, short gas systems, millwork, bolt work, and custom cut locking shoulders. He is now only doing this on a part time basis, (as a hobby), with the hopes of returning to a full time position within the aviation industry.


Best to call him with your needs at: 740-562-3070

Thank you sir!

Bill



Before Hot Blue:

http://i.imgur.com/yqGbiZH.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/em0YuLF.jpg


Fresh Hot Blue:

http://i.imgur.com/rDd4w5w.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/vvSGt9F.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/IL2Fa35.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/ZoyqDlA.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/de9L1Ar.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/rYABD1w.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/gL80R6y.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/kQgtxkw.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/EAvC9Hx.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/AsYW4aS.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/gKzPEdl.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/ABJxlhQ.jpg

Eyeguy
February 13, 2016, 12:39
Congrats! She's gorgeous.

genethepoolcleaner
February 13, 2016, 13:10
Congrats! She's gorgeous.

Indeed!!

meltblown
February 13, 2016, 13:22
What's the scoop on the wood? Impressive indeed

FALonious
February 13, 2016, 13:55
What's the scoop on the wood? Impressive indeed

Gotta be Blue Monster.....:bow:

Sudden Death
February 13, 2016, 14:44
What's the scoop on the wood? Impressive indeed


Type A Belgian Cut Stock Set handcrafted by our own Bluemonster from a blank of Juglans regia that I sent him a couple years ago.

SD

rbgonoles
February 13, 2016, 15:22
A truly beautiful riFAL. :bow::fal:

oleblu72
February 13, 2016, 15:53
Very nice SD what did you end up using for a barrel?

Mark

meltblown
February 13, 2016, 16:57
Type A Belgian Cut Stock Set handcrafted by our own Bluemonster from a blank of Juglans regia that I sent him a couple years ago.

SD

Cool, I was thinking you ain't going to find something that purdy of the shelf. You really went to the effort of making a nice build. One of the nicest I've seen here. Have always thought the metal HGs with the wood is the way to go. That LW mag just sets it off.

nearmisses
February 14, 2016, 15:36
Nice job Adam! Oxynate#7 does a fine job. I never cared for the Brownell's Oil bath step, better another hot water rinse then cold running water with a good brushing to get all the salts off, run patches thru the barrel till clean and free, oil profusely. Salts get in and creep out of the dangdest places if you don't get them all removed, you'll know if the customer doesn't get there too soon and you start seeing a bloom on the barrel where it attaches to the receiver. I used TRIFLOW because it went the longest period of time from growing fingerprint rust in the tests I conucted when I was in the Florida Key's. Still my favorite to this day with the same GOOD results. Lookin' good! Love that Bluemonster stockk, great piece of wood!

adam762
February 14, 2016, 22:00
I am glad you like it Bill.

I do not see myself doing any more of it anytime soon.

The decision to bring the equipment in to do the hot blue in house was a decision made in ignorance. In theory, adding capability and not relying on third parties makes a lot of sense.

I had no idea what I was in for.

As has been mentioned, it is a FAR more detail oriented process than parkerizing. The learning curve was STEEP and expensive. I tried to add this process to my shop going into winter, and found the water intensive rinse process hampered by my water supply regularly being frozen.

There were so many hold ups and hurdles. I don't have the cash to throw at something like this but damned if I wasn't on the line to make it happen.

The delays have upset people, rightfully so. Two missing flashiders have upset people... again, rightfully so. I haven't even come close to being able to provide what people should have been able to expect from me. Having pretty much blown everything else, I am just trying to make the projects perfect in the hopes that time will dull the angst of waiting for a project, but not the beauty of the rifle returned.

This whole BGS thing has been a wreck mostly because I didn't manage it properly. It's a big part of why I think I just need to step away for a while. DR SHOCK does good work, he can hot blue, and he's clever with machines. I'm pretty sure he can do BGS barrel conversions. I'd point people his way if they're interested in similar projects. He'll probably call to cuss me for saying that as I know he's already very busy.

Good deal Bill. Thanks for sending that lower back. I like it a lot better the second time. If I ever figure out how to NOT get the gas plug and bolt to turn red, I'll have you send them back too.

Dr Shock
February 17, 2016, 22:40
You weren't kidding. You did throw me under the bus. LOL Seriously though, thanks i appreciate it.