PDA

View Full Version : Thinking of switch my mcmillan to an hs stock


Sniper7.62x51
February 01, 2016, 01:32
I have a mcmillan A5 stock for my savage model 10 fcp. The problems I have with the mcmillan stock is I am 6'6" with a 14.5" LOP. In order to get this stock to fit me i will have to cut my existing stock and buy the spacer system from mcmillan. This job with cost me $200 or so to do this one job. Also I want to put on a CDI bottom metal. CDI right now will inlet the stock for free. Ill have to pay shipping so about $40 + $210 for the bottom metal.next would be a mag +$80. Finally I need the damn thing bedded with pillars installed. That would cost me $300 at a minimun.so for a $575 stock I'll need to drop another $830 without tax and shipping to fit my needs. So I am thinking of selling the mcmillan for an hs stock and pay only $60 extra for my length of pull and $290 for the bottom metal and mag. I wouldn't need to devcon this for the time being as I'll have pillars.
What do you guys think? Should I try to trade or sell my mcmillan stock?

gunplumber
February 01, 2016, 08:01
From my perspective as a gunsmith and a shooter, the HS stock is crap. There is literally no redeeming feature. The interior material is shit, the exterior material is shit. There is no gel-coat. Almost impossible to bed without chunks falling out. The bedding block is a quick fix for a weak stock, not an innovative design. It needs to be bedded anyway. The palm swell is too far forward for typical hands.

McMillan stocks - I've bedded hundreds - excellent in every way. Heck, I used to launch potato cannons onto their steel roof when working for an adjacent shop . .. but that's another story.

BUT - I understand what you are saying about cost. McMillan is not cheap. I used to have Dick set aside all the cosmetic blems for me to buy a a discount, as I would be texturing and painting them anyway.

It is not economical to machine a stock for bottom metal when you can buy a stock already done. I did my own on a Brown Precision stock and it took way to much time. If I ever needed to do it again, I'd buy a stock already inletted.

Sniper7.62x51
February 01, 2016, 10:52
Mark
I know ewe hs stockstock werenot the greatest but I did not know that. I really do not like there pistol grip. I was young and dumb when I bought by gun and it just sits in the safe now because doing what needs to be done is so expensive.
Do you bed savages?

deepskyridge
February 01, 2016, 11:02
Sniper, I am the same height as you. I have a 700PSS in the HS stock. It shoots about as good as I can drive it. I added some weight to the butt to reduce recoil, added a strapon cheek rest. I also added a grind to fit butt pad with a couple of spacers to get the right length of pull.

I am happy with it.

Good Luck

Gary

gunplumber
February 01, 2016, 11:04
I can bed just about anything, as long as it's ok for the bedding material to be black. Just did a Moisin Nagant for my Hadji, in a blue laminate Boyd's thumbhole (yuck!).

I really don't like accraglass, which is what I use if it has to be brown.

Now, bedding a finished stock or action and doing so, such that no refinish is necessary - that's much more challenging. Takes forever to get all the release agent off if I can't just throw it in the ultrasonic cleaning tank.

Have you considered stepping outside the "traditional" box and using one of the rail systems? I haven't used one yet but I'm intrigued by the Modular Driven Technologies LSS Chassis. Perhaps with a Magpul PRS Stock. http://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/stock-parts/rifle-stocks/remington-700-short-action-lss-chassis-prod59844.aspx

Also, I have the Magpul Hunter stock on my Ruger 10/22 "youth sniper" and am intriqued by their Hunter for the Rem 700. I unerstand the AI mag module is not yet available and I wouldn't not be interested without it.

I am curious as to the rigidity of the area where the stock screws would go. The shape, at least on the 10/22, I find quite comfortable.

I had an AI stock for my 700 but I got rid of it - the comb was way too high at it's lowest point, and I saw no point in using high rings when I didn't have to.

Sniper7.62x51
February 02, 2016, 09:40
Mark I am going to send you an email.

Jarhead504
February 15, 2016, 19:32
If you get an HS Precision stock, be sure to get the Lou Hourichi Signature Series.

HS can go suck vulture eggs.

Jarhead

P.S.: I have (4) McMillan stocks and (2) pre-Lou HS stocks.

Jarhead

ftierson
February 15, 2016, 20:21
If you get an HS Precision stock, be sure to get the Lou Hourichi Signature Series.

HS can go suck vulture eggs.

Jarhead

P.S.: I have (4) McMillan stocks and (2) pre-Lou HS stocks.



I agree...

Plus, as Mark mentions, their stocks suck anyway...

Forrest

gunplumber
February 16, 2016, 07:21
If you get an HS Precision stock, be sure to get the Lou Hourichi Signature Series.\

Lon

kmurphy
February 16, 2016, 22:13
I just installed an FDE Hunter 700 with the AI magwell on my rifle. I am overall impressed with it considering the cost.

http://i851.photobucket.com/albums/ab74/kevingmurph/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsdbqk4sey.jpeg (http://s851.photobucket.com/user/kevingmurph/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsdbqk4sey.jpeg.html)

gunplumber
February 17, 2016, 08:03
Regular AI mag snaps right in?

What do you think of their mag?

I just put the Hunter on my 10/22s and love it.

kmurphy
February 17, 2016, 13:03
I will be at my friends house to test out the various AI mags he has. I will check back. My friend has the AICS stock for one of his 700s, and thought the Hunter to be pretty nice. No Full-length aluminum rail, just around action screw and pistol grip area. No attachment point for an Atlas bipodlike an AI though. I dont care as I use a Harris with a Midwest Industries MLOK swivel stud.

Jarhead504
February 17, 2016, 21:24
Lon

Thanks Brother. I never was good at names and my pornographic memory is getting worser.

Jarhead

kmurphy
February 20, 2016, 17:10
Regular AI mag snaps right in?

What do you think of their mag?

I just put the Hunter on my 10/22s and love it.


I checked the AI mags, and 100% function in my rifle. I think I like the AI mags more only because I like how they look. But the Magpul are good. They rattle when empty, but not a concern when loaded. For the price I am happy.

gunplumber
February 21, 2016, 09:22
So, a friend had a death in the family and I'm helping him settle the estate. The last of the guns just got released. Mostly old shotguns, but there is a 700 SA .308 with a stock that takes AI mags. 19" barrel threaded 5/8. custom bolt handle, some other things. No idea on the history of it, but the work seems good. I can let it go for a lot less than what's in it. I got the last guns in from an estate I'm helping to settle. I'm at a show this weekend, but e-mail me if you want to discuss it.

Also a 700 SA .223 24" heavy stainless on a HS stock and badger mag well for AI (no mag)

Fn/form
March 02, 2016, 22:03
....but I'm intrigued by the Modular Driven Technologies LSS Chassis. Perhaps with a Magpul PRS Stock...

I like the LSS XL chassis longer length for reducing fulcrum effect w/bipod. MDT have a DIY drill/tap rail for clip on device. Not much on side rail options.

I'm deciding between LSS XL or XLR Element. I don't care for the XLR evolution due to the handguard forcing higher scope mount. The McRees are notably heavier although their new G10 model is supposed to be lighter. Not a whole lot of other options out there for FN/Win 70 actions.

PRS stock is expensive for something adjusted rarely. XLR comes with more affordable in-house options which is another plus for the Element. There are other stock options out there.