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MJ1
January 30, 2016, 15:10
So quiet here.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v130/montereyjack/243c48c2.jpg

A1Trigger_Happy
January 30, 2016, 20:04
Great looking rifle. She shoots good too!

1911Ron
January 30, 2016, 20:30
Good looking Rifle! Thanks for sharing.:)

VALMET
January 30, 2016, 23:47
The SMLE is an all-time favorite milsurp of mine (next to the P-14/1917 Enfield). What vintage/mfg is yours, WW1, WW2, Enfield, BSA, LSA, Lithgow, etc?

MJ1
January 31, 2016, 13:49
1943 BSA well used veteran so it gets flat base bullets and H4895 and is good to 300 yards then it starts to have a mind of it's own.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v130/montereyjack/DSCF0003_zps83cc54b9.jpg

And this is a 1944 Lithgow just for looking at

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v130/montereyjack/bb4b33b1.jpg

VALMET
January 31, 2016, 17:01
Beautiful '44 Lithgow!

douglas
January 31, 2016, 20:50
I love me some Enfield rifles too. That for posting up that old war horse and that beautiful Lithgow. SMLE 's rock.

Wagontrainer
January 31, 2016, 22:23
Does anyone have any information on the SMLE No.4 Mk.1 that is marked US Property?

Wagontrainer
January 31, 2016, 22:40
http://s23.photobucket.com/component/Download-File?file=%2Falbums%2Fb397%2F6t6ssuv%2Fimage_zpslh 8lqtgn.jpeg

MJ1
February 01, 2016, 11:33
Does anyone have any information on the SMLE No.4 Mk.1 that is marked US Property?

I think, not very often, you are referring to the Enfield #4 MkI and MKI* mady by Savage Arms NY as part of the lending program of early WW2. These in my small opinion are some of the best made and accurate #4's with early rifles having the two grove riflling and the later and post war the five grove.

Center rifle in this picture.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v130/montereyjack/DSCF00092_zpsa8e88c73.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v130/montereyjack/DSCF00112_zpsc6ad8050.jpg


The early 1941 and 1942 rifles in the 10C through 13C were of such quality they met the strict requirements set down for the Holland and Holland telescoped rifle program when fitted with the five grove barrels and even some two grove rifles made the early conversion.

12C and 13C MkI*'s

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v130/montereyjack/e45cec25_zpsd9f1730a.jpg

That is about all of the little I know. I'm not an expert on anything this is just my distorted view based on shooting a few.

..Cheers..
..:shots:..

hagar
February 01, 2016, 11:46
That is good shooting! I love Enfields, but strictly collect No 4's. Mostly because I cannot see those kind of sights on the older Enfields for chit anymore.

ftierson
February 01, 2016, 13:09
That is good shooting! I love Enfields, but strictly collect No 4's. Mostly because I cannot see those kind of sights on the older Enfields for chit anymore.

About sums it up for me too...

I do have a Lithgow No. 1 Mk 3 just because I couldn't pass it up, but I have a number of No. 4s that I shoot. I love the rifles and, as hagar mentions, the sights are still usable for me... :)

Forrest

MJ1
February 01, 2016, 13:19
Agreed ! I have to sight the #1 to the left or right of the black. Then pull over. I like the British targets as they are a split bull top black and btm white.

Not so much the #4's I use the #14 target.

can we seeyour #1mkIII ?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v130/montereyjack/bf07d941.jpg

Wagontrainer
February 01, 2016, 15:26
I think, not very often, you are referring to the Enfield #4 MkI and MKI* mady by Savage Arms NY as part of the lending program of early WW2. These in my small opinion are some of the best made and accurate #4's with early rifles having the two grove riflling and the later and post war the five grove.

Center rifle in this picture.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v130/montereyjack/DSCF00092_zpsa8e88c73.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v130/montereyjack/DSCF00112_zpsc6ad8050.jpg


The early 1941 and 1942 rifles in the 10C through 13C were of such quality they met the strict requirements set down for the Holland and Holland telescoped rifle program when fitted with the five grove barrels and even some two grove rifles made the early conversion.

12C and 13C MkI*'s

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v130/montereyjack/e45cec25_zpsd9f1730a.jpg

That is about all of the little I know. I'm not an expert on anything this is just my distorted view based on shooting a few.

..Cheers..
..:shots:..
Thanks for sharing yours.I did look and mine is the 2 grove Barrel and it does have Serial # an S an 1942 stamped on the left side of receiver near Butt stock

MJ1
February 01, 2016, 18:10
what C number 1942 SAVAGE C11, C12 ?

Wagontrainer
February 01, 2016, 21:49
what C number 1942 SAVAGE C11, C12 ?

How can I tell the difference?

MJ1
February 01, 2016, 22:41
Well I'm no expert on this but look at the ser.# prefix

Wagontrainer
February 01, 2016, 23:13
Well I'm no expert on this but look at the ser.# prefix
Thanks,I will take a look tomorrow.I am having trouble figuring out how to post pictures from my Photobucket file.Any suggestions?

douglas
February 02, 2016, 17:11
Charles Stratton wrote a couple Enfield collectors books that were published by North Cape Publications. I have his Volume 1 and Volume 2 of his series. Lots of good info on Lee-Enfield rifles.

croftonaviation
February 03, 2016, 22:41
Well this thread has forced me to buy an enfield to keep my garand company. Picked up a really clean 1944 long branch for under $400 at a local pawn shop. This gun was rebuilt in 1952 and remarked as a no4 mk1/3 ftr. All the numbers match and the barrel looks like new. I think I did ok on price, it included an original sling and 40 rounds of some ones hand loads. I see a component salvaging effort in my future. Interestingly some of the brass is marked 30 army, wra 31. I believe it to be 30-40 krag brass that someone used for 303.

Pics coming soon

Tom

ftierson
February 04, 2016, 00:44
Well this thread has forced me to buy an enfield to keep my garand company. Picked up a really clean 1944 long branch for under $400 at a local pawn shop. This gun was rebuilt in 1952 and remarked as a no4 mk1/3 ftr. All the numbers match and the barrel looks like new. I think I did ok on price, it included an original sling and 40 rounds of some ones hand loads. I see a component salvaging effort in my future. Interestingly some of the brass is marked 30 army, wra 31. I believe it to be 30-40 krag brass that someone used for 303.

Pics coming soon


Congratulations on picking up a very nice rifle, especially with the new bore.

And you did extremely well on the price. Hell, I already have five No. 4s and I wouldn't have passed it up for that price... :)

Have great fun with it...

Forrest

stimpsonjcat
February 04, 2016, 11:49
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/41190821/gunstuff/enfieldrfs.jpg


https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/41190821/gunstuff/Enfield2012.jpg

MJ1
February 04, 2016, 12:58
Well this thread has forced me to buy an enfield to keep my garand company. Picked up a really clean 1944 long branch for under $400 at a local pawn shop. This gun was rebuilt in 1952 and remarked as a no4 mk1/3 ftr. All the numbers match and the barrel looks like new. I think I did ok on price, it included an original sling and 40 rounds of some ones hand loads. I see a component salvaging effort in my future. Interestingly some of the brass is marked 30 army, wra 31. I believe it to be 30-40 krag brass that someone used for 303.

Pics coming soon

Tom

I would like to see this rfle and the loaded rounds.

1943 BSA

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v130/montereyjack/30c3fc68.jpg

tac-40
February 04, 2016, 13:06
Stimpy, did you paint your boolitts red to make those red holes stand out? :D

This thread has some pretty rifles and pics of great shooting. I may have to pull my 3 rifles out of the safe and fondle them to learn more. I have a Savage from the 40's, a No 5 all matching IIRC, and a No4 that I was told had South Africa markings on it. But I have not verified that. I ought all the rifles because they looked good, had great bores and fit in with my WWII Allies collecting.

hagar
February 04, 2016, 13:19
My best effort at 200 yards with a No 4, slow prone, bad eyes.

Could have been a better score, but all 20 in the black!

http://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/429227_4403347797837_249007051_n.jpg?oh=0511b1d397 1ccffcdbbac6c11de15265&oe=573D1338

croftonaviation
February 04, 2016, 21:17
I would like to see this rfle and the loaded rounds.

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http://i796.photobucket.com/albums/yy245/croftonaviation/image.jpg1_zpsdi24kasc.jpg (http://s796.photobucket.com/user/croftonaviation/media/image.jpg1_zpsdi24kasc.jpg.html)

http://i796.photobucket.com/albums/yy245/croftonaviation/image.jpg2_zpsekmgzkuq.jpg (http://s796.photobucket.com/user/croftonaviation/media/image.jpg2_zpsekmgzkuq.jpg.html)
http://i796.photobucket.com/albums/yy245/croftonaviation/image.jpg3_zpsxjegzump.jpg (http://s796.photobucket.com/user/croftonaviation/media/image.jpg3_zpsxjegzump.jpg.html)

Top is the round in question, bottom is a known .303 round

http://i796.photobucket.com/albums/yy245/croftonaviation/image.jpg4_zps1kgwoxzn.jpg (http://s796.photobucket.com/user/croftonaviation/media/image.jpg4_zps1kgwoxzn.jpg.html)

MJ1
February 04, 2016, 21:51
I have not seen this brass substitution before but I know better than to say never with Enfield shooters.

Wagontrainer
February 04, 2016, 22:38
Well I'm no expert on this but look at the ser.# prefix

Serial No.is 34C2734

ALL FAL
February 04, 2016, 23:42
Serial No.is 34C2734

You like to expand our minds on that?

Wagontrainer
February 05, 2016, 10:30
You like to expand our minds on that?

MJ1 was wondering what C number 1942 SAVAGE C11, C12 and he said it should be in the Serial no. Prefix so I was posting the serial no. Hoping it would help.

tdb59
February 05, 2016, 12:12
Top is the round in question, bottom is a known .303 round

http://i796.photobucket.com/albums/yy245/croftonaviation/image.jpg4_zps1kgwoxzn.jpg (http://s796.photobucket.com/user/croftonaviation/media/image.jpg4_zps1kgwoxzn.jpg.html)



.30-40- also known as 30-40 Krag, .30US, .30 Army.



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MJ1
February 05, 2016, 20:04
sounds like a nice collection.

good luck

Wagontrainer
February 05, 2016, 20:14
sounds like a nice collection.

good luck

When I figure out how to post some pictures I will

SteelGreyML
February 06, 2016, 14:17
When I figure out how to post some pictures I will

You can open a free photobucket account. Make a library of your pics. Copy the link they provide and paste here on the forum.

Texgunner
February 06, 2016, 20:07
Ishapore 2A

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y292/Texgunner/verygood2Arightsiderearwardlooking.jpg (http://s7.photobucket.com/user/Texgunner/media/verygood2Arightsiderearwardlooking.jpg.html)

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y292/Texgunner/Ishapore2Apost-redo022.jpg (http://s7.photobucket.com/user/Texgunner/media/Ishapore2Apost-redo022.jpg.html)

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y292/Texgunner/Ishapore2Apost-redo029.jpg (http://s7.photobucket.com/user/Texgunner/media/Ishapore2Apost-redo029.jpg.html)

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y292/Texgunner/Ishapore2Apost-redo020.jpg (http://s7.photobucket.com/user/Texgunner/media/Ishapore2Apost-redo020.jpg.html)

before refinish:

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y292/Texgunner/EnfieldIshapore2a1965014.jpg (http://s7.photobucket.com/user/Texgunner/media/EnfieldIshapore2a1965014.jpg.html)

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y292/Texgunner/EnfieldIshapore2a1965004.jpg (http://s7.photobucket.com/user/Texgunner/media/EnfieldIshapore2a1965004.jpg.html)

douglas
February 06, 2016, 22:35
Nice refinish on the Indian Enfield TxGunner.
I never cared for the light gray color that new park has , but on your rifle it works. Gives it that all business look. Very nice job on cleaning up the wood as well. Good looking rifle that you have there.

Texgunner
February 06, 2016, 23:28
Nice refinish on the Indian Enfield TxGunner.
I never cared for the light gray color that new park has , but on your rifle it works. Gives it that all business look. Very nice job on cleaning up the wood as well. Good looking rifle that you have there.

Thank you Douglas. That is Brownell's Alumahyde II Parkerizing Gray spray paint. It was hung up and cured for 30 days before reassembling the rifle. The rifle was a $99 special from AIM. I had a good struggle with that wood; my usual, "tried and true" method just didn't look like I wanted. The 3-part mix I use looked cloudy each time I rubbed on a "coat". Finally I just left well enough alone and called it good.

If I had been a bit more careful in removing the Indian enamel slathered on the gun I could have probably left the original park, but it looked like hell when I finally got it all off. I didn't have the means to blast the metal, or a big enough oven to bake it in. I found that the AlumaHyde II was formulated for just such circumstances. Hence the long curing. It's pretty tough stuff. Thanks again for the nice comments!

Wagontrainer
February 07, 2016, 08:26
You can open a free photobucket account. Make a library of your pics. Copy the link they provide and paste here on the forum.
I have the Photobucket account,but have trouble trying to post pictures.I will give it another try soon,thanks

Texgunner
February 07, 2016, 09:08
I have the Photobucket account,but have trouble trying to post pictures.I will give it another try soon,thanks

I'll give it a shot, at least I'll explain how I do it. First, start an account at a photo-hosting site, you have Photobucket, same as me. Then, upload your pics that you've saved to your computer. After they are uploaded, you'll see the thumbnail pics.

Under the thumbnail picture will be five choices. You want to click on the one that says "IMG codes". Once you do,the code will be high-lighted in blue. Right click on that code and "copy". Now, go to the post that you've started here and simply "paste" the code. You can check the post with the "Preview Post" feature and your pic should show there, as it will when you post your comments with "post".

I hope that helps!
Gary

MJ1
February 07, 2016, 13:27
If you move you're pointer to the picture you will see three small bars go there and select share and wait for the bigger menu and select the btm bar IMAGE. Go back to the post page and right click and hit paste. Ta Da !

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v130/montereyjack/Peter/DSCF0050b_zpswczbklpr.jpg

..............:biggrin:...............

Wagontrainer
February 08, 2016, 23:29
If you move you're pointer to the picture you will see three small bars go there and select share and wait for the bigger menu and select the btm bar IMAGE. Go back to the post page and right click and hit paste. Ta Da !

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v130/montereyjack/Peter/DSCF0050b_zpswczbklpr.jpg

..............:biggrin:...............

I am trying to post the pictures with my I-pad so that is probably the problem

MJ1
February 09, 2016, 11:26
I am trying to post the pictures with my I-pad so that is probably the problem

When you get that zeroed let me know too.

Original 1916 BSA WW1 sniper I shot at Bisley in the Trafalgar meet.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v130/montereyjack/Good%20days/bis003z_zpsbd67bd21.jpg

Pete on the McQueens sniper challenge Little Siberia with his 1916 BSA sniper rifle.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v130/montereyjack/Good%20days/bis006_zps9vxi4jir.jpg