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def90
December 31, 2015, 15:08
Taking a short break from FAL builds..

Just finished up this Polish AKM. Polish kit from AOA, new Polish CHF barrel from AOA, NOS Polish laminate furniture, Childers Polish receiver with Polish markings.. Can't get much closer to a real Polish AK..

Next project in line is a Hungarian underfolder.. Then back to a couple of my FALs. :)

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-k24q-USVeOk/VoWEdq1xW6I/AAAAAAAADds/_iNRJFTN5Xs/s800-Ic42/IMG_20151231_123529_921sm.jpg

slavicshooter
December 31, 2015, 17:21
Very nice. I've owned and sold 4 Polish AK's. Never had a malfunction, and they were ran hard.~ss

gunplumber
December 31, 2015, 18:00
Is it the light, or have you not pinned the front sight? And what's up with the polished bolt carrier? And shouldn't an AKM have a slant brake? And is that really a polish PG or is Romy? And the image is too low res to be sure, but is there something up with the selector stop?

Just bustin' yer chops. Nice job.

def90
December 31, 2015, 18:35
Busted.. yep, I need to crank the FSB just a hair left and then pin.. at which point I can put in the detent and screw on the slant brake... just waiting for it to get a few degrees warmer out. Test fired 50-60 rounds and runs though. :)

Grip came with the kit so I hope it's Polish :0

Come on now.. you know that some of the Polish rifles have/come with Polished carriers and bolts. :)

gunplumber
December 31, 2015, 18:44
Come on now.. you know that some of the Polish rifles have/come with Polished carriers and bolts. :)

AKs, yes. But I think Polish don't polish and AKMs should be blued.

Some people polish Polish because the metal content (high nickel) makes it hard to Parkerize well, but to the best of my knowledge, the only bare metal ones were AK pattern like China and Yugoslavia. Blued they'd have a plum tint.

Polish pistol grip is a little wider than a standard AKM. I swap all my standard AKM grips for Polish, because I have big hands. And while some Polish are reddish, I don't often see the bakelite that dark. They tend more to the rust brown.

2336
December 31, 2015, 18:48
Very nice indeed! Did you refinish the furniture? It looks beautiful - especially the stock.

def90
December 31, 2015, 19:26
Hmmm..

http://static2.demotix.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/a_scale_large/1500-5/photos/1352679357-military-parade-at-independence-day-in-warsaw_1589875.jpg

http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/component/virtuemart/shipping-accessories/polish-ak47-parts-kit-fixed-stock-detail.html?Itemid=0

http://armsofamerica.com/polishakm-47partskit-2.aspx

def90
December 31, 2015, 19:27
Very nice indeed! Did you refinish the furniture? It looks beautiful - especially the stock.

The stock and lower handguard are NOS pieces I sourced online.. My kit came with hardwood that was fairly worn..

gunplumber
December 31, 2015, 19:37
Well, you got me there - except the Arms of America link you can still see remnants of the bluing on the front end of the carrier.

Because I wish to be educated, I pulled out the Grim Reaper and saw the PMKs (AK) were bare, and the KBk (AKMS) was blued on one page and bare on the next.

I wonder if it was a "thing" to scrub off the bluing? Many common chemicals including soda will strip it right off. Maybe a parade thing, 'cause those guns don't seem to have been used much.

http://topwar.ru/uploads/posts/2011-03/1301507214_polish_army_poland_soldiers_combat_unif orms_007.jpg

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/03228/polish_army-1_3228727b.jpg

These are painted.

http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/9521/8tuz.jpg

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e8/ak47nut/AKPHOTOS17/polish5.jpg

gunplumber
December 31, 2015, 20:02
And this is interesting

http://truthaboutguns-zippykid.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/M-10-Pic-17.jpg

L-R: Polish Radom Tantal (Park), Hungarian FEG (blued - note the plum), Polish Radom AKMS (paint), Chinese Norinco MAK-90 (bare), Romanian Cugir (paint)

def90
December 31, 2015, 20:23
All I know is that the kits were a combination of earlier Blued kits and later painted kits as well as hardwood and laminate, polished carriers/bolts and painted carriers/bolts.

My kit was painted with hardwood furniture, polished carrier and bolt. The trunnion date is 1969 and all numbers matched.. The blued/painted cutoff seems to be 67ish I think. Wood was a mix among the dates but that could have been mixed up in the demill process.

RG Coburn
January 01, 2016, 15:44
Any quirks with the Childers receiver?

def90
January 01, 2016, 16:05
Nope.. went together great. It came with the correct Polish selector engravings and notches. They offer all of the different country markings and notchings on an ala carte basis on their website.. One advantage over using NoDak or anyone else.

Mossy
January 02, 2016, 20:00
Very nice Def. I just finished a Polish fixed stock last week and a Polish U/F this morning. I'm going to try a Childers for my Egyptian crutch kit. The polist is on a Nodak but still looks nice.
These are fun to build. I have another Polish in the works then on to the Maadi.
Buying Gunplumber's build course turned out to be a good way to go. It made building these rifles straight forward.

Dr Shock
January 04, 2016, 02:16
Just a side note on the polish kits. I bought a couple dozen of those fixed stock kits directly from the importer. They were a mix of Blued, Painted and even parked finishes. Bolts and carriers were polished on some. Painted guns had painted Bolts and carriers. Had a couple that had non laminate furniture. PGs were a mix of Black, Reddish Brown and some sort of burnt looking mix of the too. All were dated in the mid or late 60's.

Shag
January 04, 2016, 11:02
With the mismatch on handguard colors i thought it was Egyptian

ratas calientes
January 04, 2016, 18:24
I purchased two Polish underfolder kits years ago. One had a blued bolt carrier, the other polished. Or is that POLISHed? :rofl:

ftierson
January 04, 2016, 18:56
Speaking mostly from a Tantal paint perspective, keep in mind that brake cleaner (and probably most other cleaning chemicals) will take the paint right off the gun, including the bolt carrier.

Ask me how I know... :)

Forrest

G3isMe
January 09, 2016, 21:08
Very nice def, been wondering where you had been lately... :bow:..


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kmurphy
January 10, 2016, 22:52
Was AOA good to deal with? Was eying a similar kit to yours.

def90
January 11, 2016, 11:52
Very nice def, been wondering where you had been lately... :bow:..


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Still around.. Nov-Jan is my busiest time of the year for work.. I work in residential home construction and everyone wants to upgrade or move into their new home for the holidays.. :)

Was AOA good to deal with? Was eying a similar kit to yours.

AOA is good to go..

Bones2586
January 16, 2016, 20:54
Nice looking build, well done. Thanks for sharing! Cheers!

albacore
January 17, 2016, 17:21
Nice work! Betcha can't stop at just one.

Ghost
March 04, 2016, 01:00
Hello def90,
I just ordered one of the "Polish AKM-47 Parts Kit HAND SELECT with headspaced nitride lined barrel w/ 4150V Nitride Barrel" from AOA. I'm really thinking of getting one of the Polish hammer forged Barrels to replace the US one in the kit. I've never built an AK. Might have it built for me. Any way did you finish machining the barrel your self (they come as "sporters" from what I can tell)?
Sounds like the Childers receiver lined up perfectly? what does one do if that's not the case?
yours was very much the inspiration for what I want to do.

def90
March 06, 2016, 09:57
I had a local smith thread the barrel for me. Not sure what you mean by the receiver lining up. The Childers receivers do not have predrilled trunnion holes if that is what you are referring to. If your barrel is already headspaced and populated I would just stick with it. There is a lot of work involved with switching everything out.

def90
March 06, 2016, 09:59
Nice work! Betcha can't stop at just one.

I have already built a pair of 74s previous to this one and have a 74 sidefolder and a Hungarian underfolder in the works. :)

Ghost
March 06, 2016, 15:45
I had a local smith thread the barrel for me. Not sure what you mean by the receiver lining up. The Childers receivers do not have predrilled trunnion holes if that is what you are referring to. If your barrel is already headspaced and populated I would just stick with it. There is a lot of work involved with switching everything out.

Thanks, I just re read the description on Childers site. The trunion holes were what I was thinking of. Im not quite AK savvy yet.