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MilsurpMonkey
December 15, 2015, 13:01
Last gun show I made a trade for a couple shortened 12ga, sold a cut down browning b2000 for more than I paid for the trade, so I've got a FREE Remington military marked model 11. Only problem is that bubba got to it before I did. Original finish remains, but the stock has been sanded stained and refinished so the cartouches are gone, plus they added a recoil pad. Thats not the worst of it though. Barrel measures in at 19". This leads me to believe it was a 28" used for airial gunnery training. The original "riot" length was 20" with a bead front sight. So... I want to keep the gun, and am in it light enough to do a little spending. Thoughts on replacing the stock with a good used, unaltered model 11 set and having a gunsmith true up the muzzle cut and installing a new bead? Or just leave it and try to find a factory buttplate? (Doesn't look like the stock was shortened) I would try looking for another barrel, but the military barrels are US and ordnance bomb marked. (Non matching numbers on mine, but receiver and barrel are military marked). Taking in ideas. Pics up when I get a chance to snap a couple.

tdb59
December 15, 2015, 13:16
Lots of the military marked Model 11s were Air Force trap guns. Many were shortened and had Lyman choke / Cutts compensators added.

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MilsurpMonkey
December 15, 2015, 13:38
I was under the impression that Remington had shipped them from the factory with the cutts compensators on 28" and 26" barrels to the army, who also ordered the 20" guns for pow camp guards, and the longer guns went to the Army Air Corps (later to become the Air Force)? A few years ago I had a numbers matching Air Force trap gun that was a Military Finish model 11 sportsman (2 round magazine vs 4) with the cutts on it. Wonder if I should just throw a cutts on it and forget the re bead?

tdb59
December 15, 2015, 13:48
Either way.

It is a shooter, so.....



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MilsurpMonkey
December 15, 2015, 17:48
http://i1264.photobucket.com/albums/jj486/Milsurpmonkey/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20151215_141547755_zpsoqiebwwk.jpg

http://i1264.photobucket.com/albums/jj486/Milsurpmonkey/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20151215_141501585_zps38px7vj4.jpg

http://i1264.photobucket.com/albums/jj486/Milsurpmonkey/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20151215_141529135_zpsamaisswq.jpg

MilsurpMonkey
December 15, 2015, 17:49
I'm thinking buckshot camp defense cannon :biggrin:

MilsurpMonkey
December 15, 2015, 19:18
Micrometered the barrel, looks like a .840, a buddy says he's got the 840 cutts adapter, so I think the cutts is going to go on, as soon as I find one :rolleyes:

Impala_Guy
December 16, 2015, 22:00
I think theres a good chance thats an original riot gun. Almost all the 4 shot fat forend without finger grooves seem to be on the 1943 riot guns. Most the trainers seem to have finger groove (and sometimes checkered) stocks, except some of the "Sportsman" models, which had a different for end with a tapered nose. Why Bubba would cut 1" off the barrel is anyones guess, but Ive learned one irrefutable fact in 25 years of gun collecting: People screw good guns up for no real reason.

That being said, the 26" bbl cyl choked trainers came from Remington with the Cutts on them. I'd put this on the end http://www.paradigmsrp.com/gator-shotgun-spreader/;)

Some of these Remingtons auto shotguns were used in combat in the Pacific. They made such a devastating impression on the Japanese that they tried to acquire FN made Auto 5s and put them into service. The auto 5 is still the most reliable auto shotgun ever made.

MilsurpMonkey
December 17, 2015, 11:03
Could be an original riot receiver/stock setup. The barrel and receiver are both 1943, but the serial numbers are a couple hundred off. May have been a full length barrel chopped and put on the riot setup. Who knows, I'm just glad I got it.