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Heat
November 19, 2015, 19:47
Ok, I have to make a decision--either a Glock 17/or a Glock 19 or Glock 21 for my (possibly) only pistol. With these crazy times, I want max capacity, reliability, cost effectiveness, accuracy. I have owned the 17,19 and 26. Loaded with CorBon or other high velocity 9mm, I always figured I had a really good combo. I am though, searching for opinions--I am leaning toward the 19 because it can except 17 mags but not the other way around--I will be carrying this weapon so frankly, is the difference in size all that critical? Opinions please.

rbgonoles
November 19, 2015, 20:53
I own or have owed 92FS, Hi Power, 1911, CZ75, Walther PPQ and Glock 19. The Glock 19 and Walther PPQ are very similar in size. I shoot the PPQ best out of all my pistols. It is very ergonomic and has the best striker fired trigger. I wouldn't hesitate to carry it or the Glock 19. If SHTF I'd go with the Glock 19, mostly because of availability of mags and overall reliability. The 33 round mags don't hurt either.

SAFN49
November 19, 2015, 21:26
I've got 17's, 21's, 31's and a 42.

My choice, depending on clothing, is 17 with a +2 first then the 42.

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s30/djm540idjm540i/FNshirt_zps359a9fc0.jpg (http://s148.photobucket.com/user/djm540idjm540i/media/FNshirt_zps359a9fc0.jpg.html)

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s30/djm540idjm540i/FNshirt1_zpsfffca3fb.jpg (http://s148.photobucket.com/user/djm540idjm540i/media/FNshirt1_zpsfffca3fb.jpg.html)

mp
November 19, 2015, 21:59
I've got 17's, 21's, 31's and a 42.

My choice, depending on clothing, is 17 with a +2 first then the 42.

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s30/djm540idjm540i/FNshirt_zps359a9fc0.jpg (http://s148.photobucket.com/user/djm540idjm540i/media/FNshirt_zps359a9fc0.jpg.html)

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s30/djm540idjm540i/FNshirt1_zpsfffca3fb.jpg (http://s148.photobucket.com/user/djm540idjm540i/media/FNshirt1_zpsfffca3fb.jpg.html)

That looks like an FN version of my granny's nightgown. You could carry ******* M4 concealed under that man dress. Is that "Missouri Casual?" Are you married?

SPEEDGUNNER
November 19, 2015, 22:25
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SAFN49
November 19, 2015, 22:40
That looks like an FN version of my granny's nightgown. You could carry ******* M4 concealed under that man dress. Is that "Missouri Casual?" Are you married?

Oh, that hurts, and yes I can carry a Stakeout or M4 under my Missouri casual. :biggrin:

or a couple of Sig P226's Mexican and a Chater under my MO casual

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s30/djm540idjm540i/Conceal_zpsb1b1a0e6.jpg (http://s148.photobucket.com/user/djm540idjm540i/media/Conceal_zpsb1b1a0e6.jpg.html)

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s30/djm540idjm540i/Reveal_zps8b66d256.jpg (http://s148.photobucket.com/user/djm540idjm540i/media/Reveal_zps8b66d256.jpg.html)

I haven't figured out how to concealed carry one of my Garands yet. The BM59 and 50.63 are fine.

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s30/djm540idjm540i/lacfm_zps0d1407ca.jpg (http://s148.photobucket.com/user/djm540idjm540i/media/lacfm_zps0d1407ca.jpg.html)

ftierson
November 20, 2015, 01:34
I carry a Gen2 Glock 17 with a standard 17rd mag and a Glock 18 33rd backup mag...

If I can't get to a rifle with 50rds, I can probably kiss my ass goodbye anyway...

I wouldn't have a problem with a Glock 19, but the 17 feels better and the size isn't that much bigger (I'm 5' 10" and weigh 165 to give you a feel for carry comfort. I carry it in a Galco Matrix MX5 thermoplastic paddle holster).

Forrest

ftierson
November 20, 2015, 01:36
I carry a Gen2 Glock 17 with a standard 17rd mag and a Glock 18 33rd backup mag...

If I can't get to a rifle with 50rds, I can probably kiss my ass goodbye anyway...

I wouldn't have a problem with a Glock 19, but the 17 feels better and the size isn't that much bigger (I'm 5' 10" and weigh 165 to give you a feel for carry comfort. I carry it in a Galco Matrix MX5 thermoplastic paddle holster).



Sorry... No selfies... :)

ftierson
November 20, 2015, 01:41
By the way (in terms of the original question), I also have a couple of Glock 21s and like them very much (I have large hands), but they are a little big for me to carry all the time and I lose rounds compared to the 9mms...

Forrest

SAFN49
November 20, 2015, 03:10
By the way (in terms of the original question), I also have a couple of Glock 21s and like them very much (I have large hands), but they are a little big for me to carry all the time and I lose rounds compared to the 9mms...

Forrest

If you would just go "MO casual" you could carry two.

"MO casual" The new clothing line for when you might need to F*ck MO than one Mutherf*ker up.

ftierson
November 20, 2015, 11:40
If you would just go "MO casual" you could carry two.

"MO casual" The new clothing line for when you might need to F*ck MO than one Mutherf*ker up.

I don't feel the need for two. Whether that's realistic or not remains to be seen.

But I do try to remain close enough to a rifle that 50rds for the Glock 17 will be enough in the short-term... :)

Bringing a handgun to a rifle fight is never the best approach, keeping in mind that first rule of gunfights: Have a gun... :)

Forrest

W.E.G.
November 20, 2015, 14:29
The Glock 17 (the big one) is not really that big.

Here, compared to a 4" Ruger .357

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd7/rkba2da/pistol%20pics/Glock/securitysixcomparedG22_zpsb4a6c7f2.jpg

W.E.G.
November 20, 2015, 14:38
The problem (if you can call it that) with ALL striker fired pistols is no second-strike capability.

If you get a misfire, you gotta work the pistol with both hands, or you gotta execute some sort of ninja move that will get you banned from most public ranges if they catch you practicing it.

You might only get a half-second to bring the weapon to bear before the wrestling match starts. I can't wrestle like I used to.

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd7/rkba2da/RKBA/Darren%20Wilson%20transcript/transcript%201_zpsqkaginmu.jpg
http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd7/rkba2da/RKBA/Darren%20Wilson%20transcript/transcript%202_zps455jmrvu.jpg
http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd7/rkba2da/RKBA/Darren%20Wilson%20transcript/transcript%203_zpsiuktut63.jpg

W.E.G.
November 20, 2015, 14:44
Second-strike-capable Beretta 92-series compared to ol' trusty Model 10 .38 Special.

The Model 10 has second-strike capability too.

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd7/rkba2da/pistol%20pics/Beretta%2092S/Beretta92vsModel10_zpsdc4d2a61.jpg

W.E.G.
November 20, 2015, 14:52
I do like the way the sights swap-out so easily on the Glock.

I've got a set of Über-Glow sights on my Fo-Tay Glock.
Its badass.
Fun to talk about and show off at the barbecue.

Pretty useless feature when time constraints forbid even the most remote notion of actually USING the sights.

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd7/rkba2da/pistol%20pics/Glock/surplus%20G22%20-%20KKY790/Truglo%20TFX%20sights/truglo_zps58eunfcq.jpg

rowjimmy
November 20, 2015, 17:20
The problem (if you can call it that) with ALL striker fired pistols is no second-strike capability.

If you get a misfire, ....

Luckily, being a Glock, unless you're using crappy reloads, Russian ammo with extra hard primers, or swapped out the stock components for aftermarket, this won't be an issue. :wink:

I carry a G17 and easily conceal it and I'm a little guy.

What makes the G19 more concealable is the shorter butt of the grips, not really the barrel. if you're using G17 mags anyway, that advantage goes away.

You can not go wrong with a G17. Fast and accurate.

ftierson
November 20, 2015, 19:11
You can not go wrong with a G17. Fast and accurate.

In addition, Glock has great customer support and parts are everywhere in the unlikely chance you'll ever need any.

In addition, you can send your slide to Glock and, for $57, they'll supply and mount Glock 'branded' Meprolight night sights, including the return shipping (at least as of last year)...

Hell, the dealer price for the night sights is much more than that...

Forrest

rowjimmy
November 20, 2015, 20:23
In addition, Glock has great customer support and parts are everywhere in the unlikely chance you'll ever need any.

In addition, you can send your slide to Glock and, for $57, they'll supply and mount Glock 'branded' Meprolight night sights, including the return shipping (at least as of last year)...

Hell, the dealer price for the night sights is much more than that...

Forrest


The only issue I ever had with my Glock was the trigger spring broke during a match, with like 6k on the pistol. Many/most defensive handguns never see that many rounds, maybe a couple hundred per year. And even then, you could reset the trigger manually if needed.

I'm like WEG, I like the Tru glo tritium/fiber optics. My eyes are getting worse by the year and the fiber optics really catch my eye quick and allow an adequate sight picture. Fiber optic is the way to go IMO.

Thanks for the heads up on the meprolights, I didn't know they offered that.

W.E.G.
November 20, 2015, 22:15
The problem is that ALL semiautos misfire if the slide is pushed just slightly out of battery when the trigger is tripped.

Test it yourself if you doubt what I've said.

Glock makes great guns.
But, if the wrestling match has already started by the time your finger reaches the trigger, a misfire on the first try at make-go-bang may be a harrowing disappointment. Just ask Darren Wilson.

yellowhand
November 20, 2015, 22:40
It's all a trade off, a revolver, pretty darn sure fire, at least five or six times and they have their place.
Glocks, 19, 17, and 22's all have their place, hard to beat in a gun fight.

My LBE has a thumb snap right hand SW 19 holster on it and a Left hand Glock 22 holster in its proper place.
But if I'm in this rig, I have a rifle also.

Belt and suspenders.:biggrin:

EDC, a Glock 22, converted to 357 Sig.
But I reload, so ammo cost is same as standard 9mm JHP.

With a 40 SW barrel, original, a 357 Sig conversion barrel, and a 9mm conversion barrel, feeding in times of emergencies should not be an issue where ever it ends up.:whistling:

Just pick one, you will end up with several more anyway.:whistling:

rowjimmy
November 20, 2015, 22:44
The problem is that ALL semiautos misfire if the slide is pushed just slightly out of battery when the trigger is tripped.

Test it yourself if you doubt what I've said.

Glock makes great guns.
But, if the wrestling match has already started by the time your finger reaches the trigger, a misfire on the first try at make-go-bang may be a harrowing disappointment. Just ask Darren Wilson.

I understand what you're saying, but I can clear leather and deliver a shot at contact distances in 1 s. given my left hand will be out to ward off the attacker, I think I'll have enough time. But, I agree all of that can change quickly. that's why i keep my fitness level up. If a threat is inside of 7 yards on me, I've already made a series of mistakes.

ftierson
November 20, 2015, 23:06
An auto pistol with restrike capability will not fire if out of battery. Of course, as soon as it's back in battery...

Of course, a double action revolver if fired DA can be stopped by grabbing the cylinder and preventing it from turning...

There's always something to ruin your day...

Forrest

ftierson
November 20, 2015, 23:19
The problem (if you can call it that) with ALL striker fired pistols is no second-strike capability.



By the way, while true of Glocks, this is not true for all striker fired pistols. For example, some Taurus striker fired pistols have restrike capability, as do the Canik55 TP9 and more recent Canik TP9v2, among others...

Forrest

Heat
November 20, 2015, 23:35
Well, I tracked down a new Gen 3 17, stock black--out the door at the gunshow (got in early tonight cause my brother is a vendor and he did me a solid and found one right down the lane here at the Kingman Az gun show for $535). I went to a couple local shops and all I could find were Gen 4 pistols, all over $600. For various reason's I like the Gen 3 over the Gen 4, though I don't consider 4's inferior--just don't need bigger, mag release or inserts--and hate paying more! Thanks for all the great input--I will be buying more-no doubt.

ftierson
November 20, 2015, 23:52
Well, I tracked down a new Gen 3 17, stock black--out the door at the gunshow (got in early tonight cause my brother is a vendor and he did me a solid and found one right down the lane here at the Kingman Az gun show for $535). I went to a couple local shops and all I could find were Gen 4 pistols, all over $600. For various reason's I like the Gen 3 over the Gen 4, though I don't consider 4's inferior--just don't need bigger, mag release or inserts--and hate paying more! Thanks for all the great input--I will be buying more-no doubt.

Congratulations on picking up a fine gun. I also prefer Gen3 to Gen4 Glock 17s, not that there's anything wrong with the Gen4s... Then again, I like the Gen2 even better... :)

Have great fun with the G17. I hope you never NEED it...

Forrest

ftierson
November 21, 2015, 00:00
Thanks for the heads up on the meprolights, I didn't know they offered that.

Go to the Glock website, go to Warranty, then select downloading the warranty form, which is two pages. The last item at the bottom of the second page is for the Glock (Meprolight) tritium night sights (green/green only). It still says $57...

If you take advantage of this offer (and if you like night sights, only a fool wouldn't take advantage of it :) ), keep in mind that Glock will probably most likely upgrade your slide parts to the most current standard. If, for whatever reason, you want to keep your old parts, you'd be wise to strip them from the slide before sending it in for the sights...

Forrest

SAFN49
November 21, 2015, 00:24
Go to the Glock website, go to Warranty, then select downloading the warranty form, which is two pages. The last item at the bottom of the second page is for the Glock (Meprolight) tritium night sights (green/green only). It still says $57...

If you take advantage of this offer (and if you like night sights, only a fool wouldn't take advantage of it :) ), keep in mind that Glock will probably most likely upgrade your slide parts to the most current standard. If, for whatever reason, you want to keep your old parts, you'd be wise to strip them from the slide before sending it in for the sights...

Forrest

Can you send in 4 or 5 at a time? :whistling:

ftierson
November 21, 2015, 00:36
Can you send in 4 or 5 at a time? :whistling:

I sent five in (three G17s and two G21s), but I sent them in one at a time, waiting for one to be returned to me before sending the next. Their turn-around time is usually decent.

I sent each slide in a small priority mail box, so the shipping and insurance was about $11 for one. They (Glock) cover the return shipping (which comes in a padded bag).

I have no idea about whether they'd mind several at once, but was somewhat gun-shy about looking a gift horse in the mouth and queering the deal for others.

Having said that, they probably don't care...

Forrest

ftierson
November 21, 2015, 00:42
Having said that, they probably don't care...



Expanding a bit, Glock offers this as a service for their customers. It is a great service.

My concern was that it's not really designed to support dealers sending in large numbers of guns to sell to others and make lots of money doing so (since the dealer cost of the sights is appreciably more than Glock is charging for the sights and service).

I'm guessing that Glock would change this night sight offer if it began to be abused, if you catch my drift...

Forrest

SAFN49
November 21, 2015, 00:47
Expanding a bit, Glock offers this as a service for their customers. It is a great service.

My concern was that it's not really designed to support dealers sending in large numbers of guns to sell to others and make lots of money doing so (since the dealer cost of the sights is appreciably more than Glock is charging for the sights and service).

I'm guessing that Glock would change this night sight offer if it began to be abused, if you catch my drift...

Forrest

I'm not a dealer. I just have a lot of Glocks. I only have 4 G17's right now. They are cheap and they work. One for each vehicle, one I carry, and a spare.
Then there are the G21's, 31, 42, you get the idea.

ftierson
November 21, 2015, 00:52
I'm not a dealer. I just have a lot of Glocks. I only have 4 G17's right now. They are cheap and they work. One for each vehicle, one I carry, and a spare.
Then there are the G21's, 31, 42, you get the idea.

Believe me, I do get the idea... :)

Personally, I'd give them a quick call and see what kind of concerns they might have (or not have) about a bunch at once.

It's the careful and thoughtful thing to do...

Forrest

rowjimmy
November 21, 2015, 08:27
Well, I tracked down a new Gen 3 17, stock black--out the door at the gunshow (got in early tonight cause my brother is a vendor and he did me a solid and found one right down the lane here at the Kingman Az gun show for $535). I went to a couple local shops and all I could find were Gen 4 pistols, all over $600. For various reason's I like the Gen 3 over the Gen 4, though I don't consider 4's inferior--just don't need bigger, mag release or inserts--and hate paying more! Thanks for all the great input--I will be buying more-no doubt.

AIM has used gen2's for $360 right now and had extra used mags for $14 or so a piece, but they sold out of mags quickly last time.

ColeKira
November 21, 2015, 09:11
My .02 cents; I carry a G19 for various reasons even with a nice collection of 1911s at home. In a SHTF scenario, my 19 will accept G17 mags and 33rd mags. Your most common (from my observation) combat pistol would be the 19. Parts, mags, and ammo will be the most common around to pry from cold dead hands should you need to. I'm very practical in my paranoia and preparedness.

Old Sarge
November 21, 2015, 10:17
Glock 19 would be my first choice. Glock 17 the second.

Old Sarge

gunplumber
November 21, 2015, 10:58
Glock 17 if you'll be carrying open or if you are big enough to conceal it. Glock 19 if you need it slightly smaller for concealment.

It is neither sexy, nor elegant, nor beautiful. It is the AK47 of handguns.

I keep one in the office, one in the car, one in the bedroom, one in my go bag, and one is still in the box.

yellowhand
November 21, 2015, 11:53
Used ones are for sale, carried a lot, shot very little in most cases.:)
AIM has used 17's right now for 359.00

Any one used the PMAG 17 magazines yet?


http://www.jgsales.com/used-glocks-c-497.html

http://www.aimsurplus.com/product.aspx?groupid=5481&name=Glock+19+9mm+Gen+2+Law+Enforcement+Trade+In

http://www.aimsurplus.com/product.aspx?groupid=6042&name=LEO+Trade-In+Glock+17+GEN+2+9mm+Pistol

Heat
November 21, 2015, 13:01
My .02 cents; I carry a G19 for various reasons even with a nice collection of 1911s at home. In a SHTF scenario, my 19 will accept G17 mags and 33rd mags. Your most common (from my observation) combat pistol would be the 19. Parts, mags, and ammo will be the most common around to pry from cold dead hands should you need to. I'm very practical in my paranoia and preparedness.

Most likely, because my gun fetish is (at the moment) in-satiable--I will next get a 19 (and then another Glock and another Glock..remember--fetish). :love:
I do like commonality of parts, mags, ammo--for these uncertain times.

ftierson
November 21, 2015, 13:16
Believe me, I do get the idea... :)

Personally, I'd give them a quick call and see what kind of concerns they might have (or not have) about a bunch at once.

It's the careful and thoughtful thing to do...



By the way, SAFN49, not only is it the considerate way of doing this, but Glock has no way of knowing quickly who you are and why you're doing this (short of checking the BATFE dealer's list, which still doesn't tell them everything in a case of installing 'accessories' like this). I gave them a quick call before sending my first gun in, partly because I also had another 'problem' that I needed addressed with the 1991 purchased G17 (but that's another story for another time). Even without that issue, I would have called first out of courtesy (for one thing, websites are not always conscientiously updated).

Personally, my other concern was that a Glock in the hand is worth ten at Glock undergoing upgrades, if you catch my drift. Who knows what kind of dumbphuckery the Feds might pull while your Glocks are at Glock, including perhaps banning the guns or changing the rules on how you can get them back or (well, who can predict the depth of 'phuck you' ideas existing in the demented (and un-American) minds of our 'elected' Lords (elected only because you pull an R or D lever because the players have been pre-selected for you, resulting in, well, the same result)).

The shit-for-brains in the White House has already said that he's making gun control his primary job this last year. The shit-for-brains replacement already picked to be queen has made gun control (as in confiscation) the cornerstone of her campaign.

My point is only that losing one gun at Glock is preferable to losing many more at Glock when this shit comes down the pike. That was one of the concerns I had when sending in one at a time to have night sights installed by them...

Forrest

Tat2
November 21, 2015, 16:46
Ok, I have to make a decision--either a Glock 17/or a Glock 19 or Glock 21 for my (possibly) only pistol. With these crazy times, I want max capacity, reliability, cost effectiveness, accuracy. I have owned the 17,19 and 26. Loaded with CorBon or other high velocity 9mm, I always figured I had a really good combo. I am though, searching for opinions--I am leaning toward the 19 because it can except 17 mags but not the other way around--I will be carrying this weapon so frankly, is the difference in size all that critical? Opinions please.

Hands down...G19. Period.

T

grumpy1
November 21, 2015, 18:33
Well I'll throw in my .02. I had a G22C that I carried and could conceal it just fine. It fit me great with a IWB holster without causing any pain or discomfort. I sold it and bought a G23C and hate carring it, it just doesn't fit me right. Even with the same type of holster it just is too uncomfortable to carry. What's the difference between the two about 1/2 an inch in the grip and barrel. Do I think 1/2 an inch will make or break the carry-ablity of one or the other, I don't think so.

I also have several other Glocks and I find the G17/22 to be the best fit for me, find what fits you best and go with it.

Ron_in_PHX
November 21, 2015, 18:57
Used ones are for sale, carried a lot, shot very little in most cases.:)
AIM has used 17's right now for 359.00

Any one used the PMAG 17 magazines yet?


http://www.jgsales.com/used-glocks-c-497.html

http://www.aimsurplus.com/product.aspx?groupid=5481&name=Glock+19+9mm+Gen+2+Law+Enforcement+Trade+In

http://www.aimsurplus.com/product.aspx?groupid=6042&name=LEO+Trade-In+Glock+17+GEN+2+9mm+Pistol


I have used seven of the PMAG 17 mags in several training sessions of two hours. Two other guys used one each for one session. No problems but when new the slide speed seemed to be a little slower. No malfunctions however. Who knows? The problem that I have with the PMAGs is no holes in the back of the mag to show the number of rounds left in the mag. I am used to checking the back of the mag for round count as part of "make ready." All in all they are not enough cheaper to use instead of Glock mags.

rowjimmy
November 22, 2015, 07:24
Hands down...G19. Period.

T

Do you say this for conceal-ability or some other reason, because that is the only "advantage" I can see of the 19 over the 17, but it comes at the cost of reduced magazine capacity as you well know.

yellowhand
November 22, 2015, 11:05
Do you say this for conceal-ability or some other reason, because that is the only "advantage" I can see of the 19 over the 17, but it comes at the cost of reduced magazine capacity as you well know.

I carry a 19 in a Jackass rig with a 19 mag and off side, 2 17 mags which seems to balance the rig near perfect without tie downs, hate tie downs!
Best of both worlds, and if it ever comes down to a few missing rounds, with the normal load I carry, couple more 17 mags stuck somewhere,:D I'm screwed any way.;)

Heat
November 22, 2015, 16:49
I carry a 19 in a Jackass rig with a 19 mag and off side, 2 17 mags which seems to balance the rig near perfect without tie downs, hate tie downs!
Best of both worlds, and if it ever comes down to a few missing rounds, with the normal load I carry, couple more 17 mags stuck somewhere,:D I'm screwed any way.;)

I owned 2 GEN 3 19's (had three 17's and two 26's as well) back before 2010--had to sell them to pay bills. Now that I have the 17, I want a 19--I like the idea of multiples so I carry one, one in the truck, one in the bedroom, one in the john--see where this is going ? :wink:

Tat2
November 23, 2015, 12:23
Do you say this for conceal-ability or some other reason, because that is the only "advantage" I can see of the 19 over the 17, but it comes at the cost of reduced magazine capacity as you well know.

I kinda say it if I could have "one Glock only". It carrys well. It holds any 9mm Glock mag up to 33 rounds. I have even shot a 3 gun night match with it and a Surefire X300. They are usually more accurate than the shooter and always go bang. Very popular do it all gun


T

Bawana jim
November 23, 2015, 14:52
I an old bastard and still haven't got to the point of wanting to carry a high cap and a spare mag or two. I live in a quiet area without large numbers of terrorist and there isn't a full blown war on here. It great to just carry seven shots and a spare mag, my old man pants don't fall off from too much weight on the belt.:biggrin:

ftierson
November 23, 2015, 15:43
I an old bastard and still haven't got to the point of wanting to carry a high cap and a spare mag or two. I live in a quiet area without large numbers of terrorist and there isn't a full blown war on here. It great to just carry seven shots and a spare mag, my old man pants don't fall off from too much weight on the belt.:biggrin:

For twenty years, I carried a Star PD (with seven rounds of Blue Glaser Safety Slugs in the gun and six rounds of Speer Flying Ashtrays in a backup mag).

We base our carrying decisions on perceived need and hard-headedness (not necessarily directed at you, Jim)...

Now, I carry a Glock 17 with 50 rounds total available since my perceived need has changed.

Just sayin'...

Forrest

W.E.G.
November 23, 2015, 17:45
I live in a quiet area without large numbers of terrorist and there isn't a full blown war on here. It great to just carry seven shots and a spare mag, my old man pants don't fall off from too much weight on the belt.:biggrin:

I'm with you on that.

I rarely go to shopping malls.
(better selection and lower prices buying online)

I almost never go to nightclubs.
(main act usually starts about the time I'm wanting to put on my bunny slippers and cozy up to my lady - plus alcohol in any amount gives me a guaranteed headache)

I'm having a real hard time visualizing the situation where I - I mean me personally, no the "generalized I," would be justified in firing my weapon more than once or twice. And I try to avoid those situations like the plague.

I can't stand festivals. I don't need to eat any more funnel cake, and I don't need to look at anybody's hand-blown glass ornaments. I sort of like live outdoor music, so long as I don't have to park my car in some giant muddy lot, and where EVERYBODY is trying to leave at once. I used to like concerts, but now I get really bored pretty quick. Color me dull.

I can listen to one, maybe two, death-metal songs in a row. There is no way in hell I'm listening to 19 death-metal songs in a row.

The absolutely horrible subway service in my AO has run me out of that risk.

Realistically, if a splodey-dope wants to get me, he's gonna have to come after me personally. In which case he could just do me with a Chinese 870-clone, and not have to get all bombed-up.

Even living only 17 miles from the White House I don't see any realistic risk of a terrorist encounter. We still have plenty of garden variety criminals though. So, I'll still carry. Fourteen rounds on board should cover 99.999% of the situations I could encounter.

Bawana jim
November 23, 2015, 20:56
Just don't see a big threat level in my area, hasn't been 6 murders in the entire county all year.

yellowhand
November 23, 2015, 21:07
Just don't see a big threat level in my area, hasn't been 6 murders in the entire county all year.

I see the following coming to an area close to all of us soon, seems to be the deal with these all black dressed folks.:facepalm:

Can't tell where danger/attacks will hit next, could be anywhere at anytime.

http://www.timesofisrael.com/

I used to go places unarmed, then started carrying my little 38 snub, now going fully armed at all times with a rifle in the truck or Jeep.
Times have changed.

Bawana jim
November 23, 2015, 21:43
I see the following coming to an area close to all of us soon, seems to be the deal with these all black dressed folks.:facepalm:

Can't tell where danger/attacks will hit next, could be anywhere at anytime.

http://www.timesofisrael.com/

I used to go places unarmed, then started carrying my little 38 snub, now going fully armed at all times with a rifle in the truck or Jeep.
Times have changed.

If I thought I was due for trouble would put the FA uzi and 5 mags in a pack and carry that, it not like I don't have the gear:biggrin:. It is just that my area isn't going to have the trouble the big cities or the border states do. We get killings in areas where they are gun free but honestly I find my glock 36 and two mags is all I need day to day.

Only place I go with big crowds is the gun shows and nobody ever shoots them up. Damn good show last weekend, sold tons of ammo and 7 guns.....

yellowhand
November 23, 2015, 22:16
I'm in Phoenix tomorrow, 240 miles from house, ugh!
Might add a vest and plates.:D
Hate going to the capital for any reason.
You're right, depends on location and circumstances, my problem, just going to Synagogue puts a target on my old ass.
But it is what it is, no sense in complaining about it, just deal with it and keep living life.

ftierson
November 24, 2015, 00:02
You're right, depends on location and circumstances, ...

But it is what it is, no sense in complaining about it, just deal with it and keep living life.

About sums it up...

Forrest

Bawana jim
November 24, 2015, 13:06
Thinking about it some more, I think if I was concerned but only taking a handgun then I would take two. A 19 and a 26 with the spare mags all 19s. I could arm some help that way.

nyalaman
November 24, 2015, 18:10
I do like the way the sights swap-out so easily on the Glock.

I've got a set of Über-Glow sights on my Fo-Tay Glock.
Its badass.
Fun to talk about and show off at the barbecue.

Pretty useless feature when time constraints forbid even the most remote notion of actually USING the sights.

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd7/rkba2da/pistol%20pics/Glock/surplus%20G22%20-%20KKY790/Truglo%20TFX%20sights/truglo_zps58eunfcq.jpg

good stuff.

nyalaman
November 24, 2015, 18:14
I kinda say it if I could have "one Glock only". It carrys well. It holds any 9mm Glock mag up to 33 rounds. I have even shot a 3 gun night match with it and a Surefire X300. They are usually more accurate than the shooter and always go bang. Very popular do it all gun


T

the 19 will hold any Glock mag up to 33 rounds....except the 26 mags.

SAFN49
November 24, 2015, 19:23
the 19 will hold any Glock mag up to 33 rounds....except the 26 mags.

or 43 mags

spider991
November 24, 2015, 21:36
I carry a glock 21 gen4 everyday, comfortably. .14 rounds of 45acp is comforting. I would be absolutely comfortable with the 17 or 19 ..probably prefer the 17, it's a little bigger for my big mitts. Glock 17 with 18rds of gold dots is a pretty good every day gun...

And you probably never will need the extra rounds but the one time you do....would be nice to have.

rowjimmy
November 24, 2015, 22:53
the 19 will hold any Glock mag up to 33 rounds....except the 26 mags.

or 43 mags

You guys are some picayune mutha fugkers...

The man knows what he's talking about. And from what I can tell, he agrees the 19 is more concealable at the expense of a shorter sight radius and lower mag capacity in the gun (at least to start, or you're giving up the concealability edge, regardless of the fact it will take 33 mags.)

SAFN49
November 24, 2015, 23:39
You guys are some picayune mutha fugkers...



:biggrin: Just havin a little fun.

rowjimmy
November 25, 2015, 08:11
:biggrin: Just havin a little fun.

Aren't we all? :devil:

nearmisses
November 25, 2015, 19:24
Got this today and though of your post and what a guy on here has for his signature, a 9mm may expand but a 45 is always 45. so in keeping with that logic here it is in time for Black Friday with Nite Sights!
https://www.classicfirearms.com/?utm_source=Classic+Firearms&utm_campaign=466d356d92-Mailchimp_2015-11-25_BF_Glock&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_afe48e03d8-466d356d92-238432825&mc_cid=466d356d92&mc_eid=ab44e07687

Heat
November 25, 2015, 23:17
I'm in Phoenix tomorrow, 240 miles from house, ugh!
Might add a vest and plates.:D
Hate going to the capital for any reason.
You're right, depends on location and circumstances, my problem, just going to Synagogue puts a target on my old ass.
But it is what it is, no sense in complaining about it, just deal with it and keep living life.

I'm in Kingman and see no reason why I would go to Phoenix. Too many crazies.

yellowhand
November 25, 2015, 23:41
I'm in Kingman and see no reason why I would go to Phoenix. Too many crazies.

About like LA now a days.:facepalm:

Right Side Up
November 28, 2015, 23:43
Well....damn all of you. I stopped into Gander Mountain today just to browse, and ended up looking at Glocks. After reading all the fanboi posts in this thread I decided to revisit how one felt in my hand. I've shot them before but they never "called" to me.

They had a Glock 23 that I kinda liked, but it was at regular price. I always buy on sale, so I said nah. The salesman then said he had a used 22, so he brought it out. I had already decided I wasn't going to like it, but the salesman was really good so I humored him. I was surprised when I saw it. It had no wear on it at all, $404.99, and it came with 5 mags. I said...."bleat bleat" and brought it home.

And they had Mag Tech 180 gr. JHP for $21 per box of 50.

I just hope the thing doesn't take my hand off.

W.E.G.
November 29, 2015, 00:40
When you really need a gun, that G22 sure feels good.

Right Side Up
November 29, 2015, 01:06
http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q652/greggood1/Glock%2022_zpsykzr6vnv.jpg

It fits inside my waistband comfortably. The reason I had it in the back of my mind to get it was Wednesday I had to stop in Wal-Mart to get a roaster. There were two big burly guys that I *thought* may have been watching me. I wished at the time I had had a gun on me while walking to my car.

SAFN49
November 29, 2015, 01:06
Once you go 31, you'll never go back.

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s30/djm540idjm540i/20151129_000200_resized_zpscvzm8obp.jpg (http://s148.photobucket.com/user/djm540idjm540i/media/20151129_000200_resized_zpscvzm8obp.jpg.html)

Right Side Up
November 29, 2015, 02:10
I will be buying more of the Mag Tech .40 cal ammo after seeing this review. This guy knows his stuff. :wink: I always trust a teen on gun bad ass'ness.
He states the wound channel is "nasty" (at :57).
Good enough for old RSU. :wink:


<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/pT9hS4vPIOY" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

W.E.G.
November 29, 2015, 09:12
I prefer testing through the standard 4 layers denim.

Most bullets will expand fine straight into gelatin.

Realistically though, a .40 into the 8-ring, whether it expands or not, will probably seal the deal. The expansion really serves best toward concerns of one-shot-two-kills. Even the 9mm keeps on trucking if it doesn't expand.

Bawana jim
November 29, 2015, 11:42
Shouldn't read you guys post:facepalm: now I went and bought another 36 for balance but have to wear suspenders to keep my pants up...:cool:

Heat
November 29, 2015, 13:05
I will be buying more of the Mag Tech .40 cal ammo after seeing this review. This guy knows his stuff. :wink: I always trust a teen on gun bad ass'ness.
He states the wound channel is "nasty" (at :57).
Good enough for old RSU. :wink:


<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/pT9hS4vPIOY" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Makes me wish I'd gotten married and had kids. This young man I'd have been proud of!

yellowhand
November 29, 2015, 13:13
Makes me wish I'd gotten married and had kids. This young man I'd have been proud of!

Man has two really good days in his life, the first when his son is born and the second when he comes home from work and all the tools on his tool bench have not been moved from where he last left them.
All fathers will understand this one!:)

Invictus77
November 29, 2015, 13:26
Man has two really good days in his life, the first when his son is born and the second when he comes home from work and all the tools on his tool bench have not been moved from where he last left them.
All fathers will understand this one!:)

When the son hits about age 2, the days of not having the tools moved have come to an end :wink:

Right Side Up
November 29, 2015, 17:47
It was too nasty to work in the yard so I went to the range and put 3 mags through my new-to-me G22. I'm happy with it. The sights are perfect, meaning it puts the rounds into the bullseye at 25 feet.

I'm not going to bother trying to reload the brass fired out of it though. The chamber is on the large side and the brass is bulged out some.

W.E.G.
November 29, 2015, 18:14
I don't shoot enough semi-auto pistol brass in a year to justify the aggro of reloading it. I might shoot 800 rounds of pistol in a year's time.

I stay busy enough in the reloading room loading rifle ammo. I allow myself the luxury of not having to crawl around on the ground looking for bitty pistol brass.

If you are motivated enough to reload semi-auto pistol brass, Glocked brass should be pushed through a special die to knock the bulge out.

Note the noob in the vid running the brass through the gizzy upside down. http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd7/rkba2da/smileys/homersimpson.gif

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Right Side Up
November 29, 2015, 18:23
Neat tool. I'll probably just let this brass stay on the ground. I don't know abut shooting brass that has been *worked* that much in a chamber this loose. Probably just stick with new ammo for this gun. Hell I'll never put many rounds through it anyway.

W.E.G.
November 29, 2015, 18:30
Top-tier carry ammo -- $0.42/rd

http://www.ammunitiondepot.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=P40HST1B&Click=17909

http://cdn3.volusion.com/sfvhn.cpdkd/v/vspfiles/photos/P40HST1B-2T.jpg?1430135640

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/UWy2AB_AQYo" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

http://falfiles.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=81159&stc=1&d=1448839836

http://falfiles.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=81161&stc=1&d=1448840079

http://falfiles.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=81160&stc=1&d=1448840088

ftierson
November 29, 2015, 19:05
If you are motivated enough to reload semi-auto pistol brass, Glocked brass should be pushed through a special die to knock the bulge out.



I've never had this problem with 9x19mmP or .45ACP in Glocks, so I assume that it's mostly a .40S&W problem since I don't have any .40S&W guns...

Forrest

Right Side Up
November 29, 2015, 19:19
Some brass I picked up from my gun.

Comments?

http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q652/greggood1/Glock%2022%20brass_zpsxxdkpgv0.jpg

W.E.G.
November 29, 2015, 19:25
Typical .40 brass from a Glock.

Bulged.

Run it through the Lee sizer, and the bulge goes away.

ftierson
November 29, 2015, 21:05
Typical .40 brass from a Glock.

Bulged.

Run it through the Lee sizer, and the bulge goes away.

My point was that it's not typical for 9x19mmP and .45ACP Glocks.

The unsupported base of the case in .40S&W Glocks goes back to the very earliest chambering of the .40S&W in a Glock, which was before even S&W got their cartridge in their own guns, and is a very well known 'problem,' especially in early .40S&W Glocks. In current .40S&W Glocks, the base is better supported than in the earliest, but still leaves a little to be desired (in my opinion, of course).

I don't want to see the impression left that this is a 'problem' in non-.40S&W Glocks, which it isn't and has never been...

Forrest

SAFN49
November 29, 2015, 22:36
The brass from Glocks, designed for the police forces/military was never meant to be reloaded.

ftierson
November 30, 2015, 00:24
The brass from Glocks, designed for the police forces/military was never meant to be reloaded.

I reload 9x19mmP and .45ACP from my Glocks all the time...

Forrest

Right Side Up
November 30, 2015, 00:25
My point was that it's not typical for 9x19mmP and .45ACP Glocks.

The unsupported base of the case in .40S&W Glocks goes back to the very earliest chambering of the .40S&W in a Glock, which was before even S&W got their cartridge in their own guns, and is a very well known 'problem,' especially in early .40S&W Glocks. In current .40S&W Glocks, the base is better supported than in the earliest, but still leaves a little to be desired (in my opinion, of course).

I don't want to see the impression left that this is a 'problem' in non-.40S&W Glocks, which it isn't and has never been...

Forrest

The bulge starts about .100" forward of the edge of the feed ramp. It's supported there all the way around, it's just big, to guarantee feeding. I'm going to leave it alone.

ftierson
November 30, 2015, 00:57
The bulge starts about .100" forward of the edge of the feed ramp. It's supported there all the way around, it's just big, to guarantee feeding. I'm going to leave it alone.

That's the current chamber that Glock uses in their .40S&W guns...

As Gary says, just run it though a Lee sizer and it goes away and reloads just fine.

My point was only that 9x19mmP and .45ACP fired in Glocks does not exhibit this bulge...

Forrest

Right Side Up
November 30, 2015, 02:02
I'm not reloading brass bulged like that. someone else can.

ftierson
November 30, 2015, 02:47
I'm not reloading brass bulged like that. someone else can.

To each their own...

I'm sure that someone else will be happy to...

Forrest

homelandprotector
November 30, 2015, 21:02
Combat Carry?? Try a G35, More horsepower, more barrel. same size as a G17,
just an inch longer barrel >> http://www.falfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?p=4145692#post4145692

Right Side Up
December 07, 2015, 01:21
The 22 I bought is a keeper. I never knew a Glock could be this accurate. Out of the box, shelf 180 gr. ammo, shooting off a sandbag at 25 yards.

http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q652/greggood1/20151206_231744_zpsb3g2zitt.jpg
http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q652/greggood1/20151206_231827_zpszqd3yonh.jpg

This started off to be a really good group, but there were shotguns on both sides of me at the range. One of them went off right as I was squeezing off a round.:facepalm:

http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q652/greggood1/20151206_231722_zpszsijn1df.jpg

Timber Wolf
December 07, 2015, 13:11
Man has two really good days in his life, the first when his son is born and the second when he comes home from work and all the tools on his tool bench have not been moved from where he last left them.
All fathers will understand this one!:)

I don't have a Glock story, so I will tell my kid'-n-tools story. Years ago a good friend was laying under his car working on it. He is a Machinist by trade, so had all his tools laid out neatly and in order on the driveway :facepalm::facepalm: (sickening, I know).

About then, his little son started messing with the tools. His Dad said to leave them alone. The kid asked "but can't I help Daddy"? The Dad said of course you can help. Before he could say anything else the kid said "well if I am going to help I have to have TOOLS!"

homelandprotector
December 08, 2015, 20:00
I'm not reloading brass bulged like that. someone else can.
But they hold more gun powder like that...... :biggrin:

rowjimmy
December 08, 2015, 22:31
The 22 I bought is a keeper. I never knew a Glock could be this accurate. Out of the box, shelf 180 gr. ammo, shooting off a sandbag at 25 yards.
...

Glocks will shoot 3" at 25 yards, some might shoot slightly better. Either you've purchased a Glock that has a higher midi-chlorian level than Annakin Skywalker or you're full of crap. This is not a tuned 1911...

Right Side Up
December 08, 2015, 23:05
Glocks will shoot 3" at 25 yards, some might shoot slightly better. Either you've purchased a Glock that has a higher midi-chlorian level than Annakin Skywalker or you're full of crap. This is not a tuned 1911...

I can see why people put you on ignore.

I thought the gun shot pretty good for out of the box. :rofl:

SAFN49
December 08, 2015, 23:22
I can see why people put you on ignore.

I thought the gun shot pretty good for out of the box. :rofl:

Alot Glocks will shoot 1.5" at 25 yards, same with alot 1911's. It is too bad that rowjimmy can't shoot as well as his pistols.

Haters gonna hate.

rowjimmy
December 09, 2015, 10:34
I can see why people put you on ignore.

I thought the gun shot pretty good for out of the box. :rofl:

So, you've got a special Glock... isn't that special.

Let me know what you squeeze out of it when you accurize it.

Right Side Up
December 09, 2015, 10:43
I'm not touching it.

Welcome to the ignore function.

rowjimmy
December 09, 2015, 10:47
Alot Glocks will shoot 1.5" at 25 yards, same with alot 1911's. It is too bad that rowjimmy can't shoot as well as his pistols.

Haters gonna hate.


Are you coming to shot Oklahoma with us? Oh, that's right...you just talk about shooting.

The tolerances, construction and factory sights of a Glock make it around a 3" gun at 25 yards.

No hate in my heart, I just see a lot of people post a lot of stuff which is contrary to conventional wisdom and experience.

SAFN49, any time you want to test my skill with a pistol, I'm game. We could suit in protective gear up with Simunitions in the guns and shoot all day long, or at least until you get tired of being shot.

rowjimmy
December 09, 2015, 10:50
I'm not touching it.

Welcome to the ignore function.

That's funny...I don't like what you have to say, so I'm going to put you on ignore.

I made two claims. You must have an especially accurate Glock, but yet you get butt hurt over the fact I posited either option.

That is uncharacteristic accuracy for a Glock.

Sorry you're such a pansy.

EDIT: Honestly, the more I think about this, it was obvious to the discerning reader that I was busting your chops in a friendly way as evidenced by the fact I used a freaking Star Wars reference. You really are a pansy (and now I'm being serious.) i didn't realize a forum devoted to a battle rifle would harbor so many effeminate, fragile psyches.

Tat2
December 09, 2015, 12:06
Neat tool. I'll probably just let this brass stay on the ground. I don't know abut shooting brass that has been *worked* that much in a chamber this loose. Probably just stick with new ammo for this gun. Hell I'll never put many rounds through it anyway.

I have shot THOUSANDS of rounds made with once fired LE .40 brass shot through local LE Glocks. I always pick it up after requals to make sure it's all from a known source. I use the Redding Grx die first and then a Hornady die on my Dillon. I then gauge them and 299 out of 300 pass. I only check that last step if shooting them in my 2011 competition guns. Not if shooting in a Glock. I have never had an issue with it.

T

SAFN49
December 09, 2015, 12:23
Are you coming to shot Oklahoma with us? Oh, that's right...you just talk about shooting.

The tolerances, construction and factory sights of a Glock make it around a 3" gun at 25 yards.



Maybe the G42 is 3" at 25 yds

http://www.tactical-life.com/firearms/gun-test-glock-42-380-acp/#glock-42-gwle-dec-2014-lead

Right Side Up
December 09, 2015, 13:08
Maybe the G42 is 3" at 25 yds

http://www.tactical-life.com/firearms/gun-test-glock-42-380-acp/#glock-42-gwle-dec-2014-lead

Probably. The Glocks I've shot before were all the small frame, like the 27. It wouldn't shoot accurate at all. For me anyway.

Right Side Up
December 09, 2015, 13:09
EDIT: Honestly, the more I think about this, it was obvious to the discerning reader that I was busting your chops in a friendly way...




A hint then, put a smiley on the end of it.

Tat2
December 09, 2015, 15:39
Probably. The Glocks I've shot before were all the small frame, like the 27. It wouldn't shoot accurate at all. For me anyway.

I could always seem to get better accuracy out of the 9mm guns. I would vary OAL and it would really help with accuracy. The .40 guns were ok but never as accurate for me.

That G22 is definitely a keeper!

T

rowjimmy
December 09, 2015, 18:13
Maybe the G42 is 3" at 25 yds

http://www.tactical-life.com/firearms/gun-test-glock-42-380-acp/#glock-42-gwle-dec-2014-lead

Did you read the whole article? They claim x out of y shots (less than 5) were in a 1.5" group, etc...I have news for you, if they're not all in the diameter of the circle and counted, then it's not really a "group." I've shot some nice one shot sub-quarter moa groups in my time with my AR...:facepalm:

I have had similar experience with my G17's shooting left and having to drift the rear sight rightward, so that seems legitimate. I've heard numerous others have had this problem as well.

I agree different caliber Glocks may yield different accuracy results. I shot a friends G21 with 230 gr aluminum Blazer ball that was fiendishly accurate.

For a stock G22 with factory ammo, those are exceptional results. Ask Glock what the standard accuracy is for their guns. If they say 1 to 1.5 moa, I'll be a believer.

rowjimmy
December 09, 2015, 18:14
A hint then, put a smiley on the end of it.

At least you admit you're not a discerning reader...


Oh, sorry, almost forgot...:)

Right Side Up
December 09, 2015, 18:43
Or maybe I just didn't put much effort into trying to understand the sarcasm? :D

SAFN49
December 09, 2015, 18:51
I agree different caliber Glocks may yield different accuracy results. I shot a friends G21 with 230 gr aluminum Blazer ball that was fiendishly accurate.

For a stock G22 with factory ammo, those are exceptional results. Ask Glock what the standard accuracy is for their guns. If they say 1 to 1.5 moa, I'll be a believer.

Glock standard accuracy is 2.5" @ 25 yds. Most will do 1.5".
Bullet weight seems to be huge factor in Glock accuracy. Might have something to do with their rifling.

A test of about 6 different Glocks (G19, G17, G22, G34) shot at 25 and 50 yards out of a ransom rest with Win Ranger, WWB, and Hunting Shack reloads. The worst was around 3.5" at 25 and the best was about 2.5" at 50. Average out of all of them was around 2-2.5" at 25yds.

Right Side Up
December 09, 2015, 18:59
I've shot some nice one shot sub-quarter moa groups in my time with my AR...:facepalm:



A group like that is actually called a "zero". :D

rowjimmy
December 09, 2015, 19:55
Glock standard accuracy is 2.5" @ 25 yds....


So, if I understand you correctly, your biggest beef in this discussion is that I rounded 2.5" to 3"?

Man, and people accuse me of being picayune....

And I'm guessing the G34 was the one that did 2.5" at 50, or was that the G22? Was it sight radius and barrel length or caliber? Hell, that's almost a Bullseye gun.

I think your comment that "most" will do 1.5" is a stretch...

Right Side Up
December 09, 2015, 20:00
I'm strongly considering putting a laser on this 22 and shooting it again this weekend.

Tat2
December 10, 2015, 08:55
I'm strongly considering putting a laser on this 22 and shooting it again this weekend.

If it's an external laser be careful. The Gen3 G22's are notorious for having functioning issues with a light attached. The fix was the Gen4 gun supposedly..... I went to the G35 and had no issues hanging lights on it

T

yellowhand
December 10, 2015, 12:11
I'm strongly considering putting a laser on this 22 and shooting it again this weekend.

I have a laser on mine, its inside the rear sight, got it as a present last year, thing works perfectly and does not cause an issue with holster,etc.
I use it for things that go bump in the night!:biggrin:

http://www.laserlyte.com/products/sight-rear-rtb-gl

homelandprotector
December 18, 2015, 13:11
Man has two really good days in his life, the first when his son is born and the second when he comes home from work and all the tools on his tool bench have not been moved from where he last left them.
All fathers will understand this one!:)
Yep, 3 boys later..... Although my youngest just turned 18 :)

Jarhead504
December 21, 2015, 20:58
The US gummint bought 10,000 Glock 19s for the Iraqi po-po force, most of which wound up int he hands of anti-American goat-rapers. Th Glock 19 is a great pistol and will be my next handgun. I have the 17,22, 30 and 26, which goes everywhere with me most of the time.

Jarhead

Right Side Up
December 21, 2015, 21:10
If it's an external laser be careful. The Gen3 G22's are notorious for having functioning issues with a light attached. The fix was the Gen4 gun supposedly..... I went to the G35 and had no issues hanging lights on it

T


Thanks for the heads up on that. I did extensive reading on it.

I ended up with a Crimson Trace rail mounted laser. Went and shot it yesterday but I'm so used to shooting with regular open sights I wasn't comfortable with it. I got some really good groups though. I took it back off. If I ever take it hunting I'll put it back on. It's like a scope.

My gun did fine with the laser on the rail. I'd really rather have a light on there, but I'm not going to chance it.

I also ordered some Tru-Glo TFX tritium/fiber optic sights for it today. Really looking forward to getting those on.

Tat2
December 21, 2015, 22:36
Well if a buddy has a light put it on and try it.....but... I always run into a guy that says his is fine with a light and then within a couple mags it chokes. Do not bet your life on it....

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rowjimmy
December 21, 2015, 22:40
...

I also ordered some Tru-Glo TFX tritium/fiber optic sights for it today. Really looking forward to getting those on.

I love mine.

albacore
December 23, 2015, 19:35
I love the way my CZ75 feels in my hand. My S&W Shield is easily concealed in the summer no matter what you're wearing. That being said I'd never part with either of my Gen 2 G19s.

Tat2
December 24, 2015, 21:45
I love the way my CZ75 feels in my hand. My S&W Shield is easily concealed in the summer no matter what you're wearing. That being said I'd never part with either of my Gen 2 G19s.

The CZ does feel amazing. And the G19 is where it's at fo sure!! ::biggrin:

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Right Side Up
December 25, 2015, 00:37
The TruGlo TFX sights are on. Like them a lot.

http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q652/greggood1/20151224_231550_zpsz0e5fbvg.jpg
http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q652/greggood1/20151224_231624_zpsujhiehvw.jpg

Skilter
December 28, 2015, 02:18
My .02 cents; I carry a G19 for various reasons even with a nice collection of 1911s at home. In a SHTF scenario, my 19 will accept G17 mags and 33rd mags. Your most common (from my observation) combat pistol would be the 19. Parts, mags, and ammo will be the most common around to pry from cold dead hands should you need to. I'm very practical in my paranoia and preparedness.


Yep and twice on Sunday. The 19 is the best and if I had only... If the perp is that close it is a knife fight and it don't matter IMHO.... Ymmv

Right Side Up
January 09, 2016, 00:22
I found a deal on a new Bar-Sto barrel. It's the "semi-fit" version. It locks up a little tighter at the back (.010" less vertical play. Funny enough, the muzzle end is .002" smaller, so has more clearance there.

The chamber is .006" smaller (.426" vs. .432"). It's hard to measure, but the chamber support looks to be about .010" more.

http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q652/greggood1/20160108_230154_zps0uyfl0fb.jpg

http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q652/greggood1/20160108_230226_zpskiqv32ah.jpg

http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q652/greggood1/20160108_230300_zpskyrxgjtn.jpg

http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q652/greggood1/20160108_230937_zpsv8hgoxxq.jpg

Right Side Up
January 11, 2016, 01:41
New best with the Bar-Sto barrel install. Best group with factory barrel was 1.200". Best today with the new barrel was .878".

The center group is 4 shots. Bottom right hand is a full 5 rounds.

http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q652/greggood1/20160111_001330_zpsu7dkfcgi.jpg

44EmElBee
February 03, 2016, 20:49
I use a g19 for my everyday carry. I also carry 2 spare g17 mags for reload. The only problem would be carrying a g17 in a g19 as the extra rounds would definitely cause a " printing " issue. I have had no problems with my carry or my mags causing problems. I always dress around what I carry . :smile:

Black Blade
February 03, 2016, 21:10
Occasionally I CCW a Glock 19 but with the Minotaur holster I sometimes carry the G26 and 17.

Have a few Glocks and some set up differently.

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll287/jhwarner1/Lasermax26.jpg

G26 with Lasermax internal guide rod laser.

http://images.yuku.com/image/pjpeg/bf51691fae2e173d96d26e04a93f95f3cb22c415.pjpg

Standard G17 Gen 3 with green lasermax laser.

http://images.yuku.com/image/jpg/12826ec193d88c76d87bd2dd2f015dfbdf09644a_r.jpg

Standard G19 Gen 3 and Gen 4 with G17 mag and mag spacer.

I prefer the G19 for carry myself - comfort and ergonomics, etc. Then again sometimes I just pack a Sistema Colt or Ballester-Molina for the hell of it. Lots of decent handguns to choose from.

Mark IV
February 09, 2016, 08:34
Gen. 3 G19.