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rdd123
October 04, 2015, 12:53
I have two 18" FAL's. What should the POA and POI be at 25yrds be.
Have looked through the FAQ's and did not find an answer.Have not been
to the range yet. Experimenting gets expensive. Anybody know?
Thanks in advance.

meltblown
October 04, 2015, 13:30
I have two 18" FAL's. What should the POA and POI be at 25yrds be.
Have looked through the FAQ's and did not find an answer.Have not been
to the range yet. Experimenting gets expensive. Anybody know?
Thanks in advance.

Depends on the ammo. You need to understand the ballistics for the round. What is your ultimate yardage you are wanting to extrapolate?
http://gunshowroom.com/scopes_post/18/Scope_Information/Magic_at_25_Yards

NFADLR
October 04, 2015, 13:48
Is there a spreadsheet plug in for lotus 123 or excel ?

I have one for building stroker motors (BBC) but not balistics.

Thanks

meltblown
October 04, 2015, 14:14
On @ 25 yds should equate to on @ 200 yds with 145-150 grain ammo. Works for me well
+1

W.E.G.
October 04, 2015, 14:19
Sight pretty much any high powered rifle at 25 yards to give you a reasonable point-blank zone for aiming.

NFADLR
October 04, 2015, 14:34
Would love some more range time...The last time I went my instructor had a CCW class he had forgotten about.

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j184/mag-lock/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-10-04%2012.31.54.jpg (http://s80.photobucket.com/user/mag-lock/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-10-04%2012.31.54.jpg.html)
Sight pretty much any high powered rifle at 25 yards to give you a reasonable point-blank zone for aiming.

rdd123
October 04, 2015, 15:15
Thanks guys. Have another question, the front sight post is super short, I
guess that is normal?

NFADLR
October 04, 2015, 15:21
Pic or state how many dots on front sight post ?


Thanks guys. Have another question, the front sight post is super short, I
guess that is normal?

rdd123
October 04, 2015, 15:27
The Para and the carbine both have two dots, look to be maybe !/16th.

NFADLR
October 04, 2015, 15:34
Found this by who I think is our on THR.
http://www.thehighroad.org/archive/index.php/t-381841.html
Im sure something can be found here search using google with this link, copy and paste everything within the quotes.
"SITE:http://www.falfiles.com/forums/ FAL FRONT SIGHT HEIGHT DOTS"

Bwana John

July 31, 2008, 11:55 AM

I posted this to the same question a while ago. For more info search "FAL dot sight"

OK,
Here’s what I came up with. Measured total height of sight top to bottom.

2 dot- .596"
3 dot- .628"
4 dot- .652"

HOWEVER!- I also have a 3 dot that is .575" but Im pretty sure its filed on.

Here is the height of just the post.
2 dot- .159"
3 dot- .186"
4 dot- .214"

meltblown
October 04, 2015, 15:37
Seems to be filed on. Not out of the question if it was shooting low with that barrel

rdd123
October 04, 2015, 15:45
Thanks NFADLR.Think I will keep that info. I have a gun club range, less
than ten miles from the house. By the time the remodel is done will be
able to shoot out to 500yds. Should be fun.

andresere
October 06, 2015, 10:12
I have two 18" FAL's. What should the POA and POI be at 25yrds be.
Have looked through the FAQ's and did not find an answer.Have not been
to the range yet. Experimenting gets expensive. Anybody know?
Thanks in advance.

From the manual.

Rifle, 7.62mm L1A1 Electrical and Mechanical Engineering Instructions Standards, Issue 3, August 1992: from a mechanical rest, 4 out of 5 rounds fall in a circle 50mm (2.0") diameter for rifles in the field or 38mm (1.5") diameter for depot/new rifles. Point of impact 13mm (0.5") below and 13mm left or right of point of aim.



Point of aim is a one inch square centered on the top portion of the 1.5 or 2 inch circle (not above, not below - centered). This will 'index' your rear sight ramp, if that makes sense.

W.E.G.
October 06, 2015, 10:45
Not uncommon for hacked-barrel FAL to need nubbin front sight.

Put a front sight you can actually see on it.

Adjust rear sight.

kotengu
October 06, 2015, 10:58
From the manual.

Rifle, 7.62mm L1A1 Electrical and Mechanical Engineering Instructions Standards, Issue 3, August 1992: from a mechanical rest, 4 out of 5 rounds fall in a circle 50mm (2.0") diameter for rifles in the field or 38mm (1.5") diameter for depot/new rifles. Point of impact 13mm (0.5") below and 13mm left or right of point of aim.



Point of aim is a one inch square centered on the top portion of the 1.5 or 2 inch circle (not above, not below - centered). This will 'index' your rear sight ramp, if that makes sense.

Great data! At what distance?

ghf
October 06, 2015, 11:07
Unless you are doping target loads, forget the higher mathematics.

w/ 146-150gr fmj NATO 7.62x51-

Battle sight zero for FAL w/ ramp rear sight or G-3 :

Set rear sight @ 2 (200m)- POI=POA @ 30m.

To hit man size targets at 300-400-500-600m, adjust rear sight to 3-4-5-6 accordingly.

FAL w/ 250m Para rear sight and the M-14/M1A use a 250m battle sight zero:

POI is 4.6cm higher then POA @25m.