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jugrunner
July 23, 2015, 16:39
I have no business here but my friend has a friend who has a full go HK G3 ... all the papers ... no funny business ... I'll have pics tomorrow ... not a "sear" gun ... lots of mags and accessories/wooden case ... also including the .22 conversion ...

it's part of an Estate sale he's doing ... probably a 98% gun ... ballpark a price ... ???

$15,000.00/$18,000.00 ... ??? ... $20.00 ... ??? ... the owner has turned down a $14,000.00 offer from a family member ... did she screw up ... ???

Invictus77
July 23, 2015, 16:51
http://www.gunbroker.com/Machine-Guns/BI.aspx

http://www.machinegunpriceguide.com/html/machine_guns.html

http://www.subguns.com/classifieds/index.cgi?db=nfafirearms&website=&language=&session_key=&search_and_display_db_button=on&results_format=headlines&query=category&category=All+Items+in+this+Category

Sampson1986
July 23, 2015, 17:48
I have no business here but my friend has a friend who has a full go HK G3 ... all the papers ... no funny business ... I'll have pics tomorrow ... not a "sear" gun ... lots of mags and accessories/wooden case ... also including the .22 conversion ...

it's part of an Estate sale he's doing ... probably a 98% gun ... ballpark a price ... ???

$15,000.00/$18,000.00 ... ??? ... $20.00 ... ??? ... the owner has turned down a $14,000.00 offer from a family member ... did she screw up ... ???

Depends.

Registered receiver gun I presume? Is it an original G3 or a conversion? If a conversion, who did it? How is the trigger group/housing retained in place: by pushpin or a shelf?

The least desirable G3 conversion gun starts at about $15k and goes up from there.

Artful
July 26, 2015, 00:13
http://www.machinegunpriceguide.com/assets/images/db_images/db_HKG31.gif
looks like 20K+ is the going rate right now.

Once you find out what you have I'd contact a nationally know dealer like
Ruben Mendiola and see about consignment sale.

Lee Carpentieri
July 26, 2015, 02:34
Rueben only buys and sells. He doesn't do consignments at all.:wink:

jugrunner
July 26, 2015, 13:59
Thanks gentlemen ... I think we have the info needed ... :bow:

Sampson1986
July 26, 2015, 15:42
Once you find out what you have I'd contact a nationally know dealer like Ruben Mendiola and see about consignment sale.

If I were going to do a consignment, I'd go with Frank Goepfert/Midwest Tactical.

He's a top seller on GunBroker and he does a shit ton of business. He usually gets pretty good returns for the sellers, too.

mg34dan
July 26, 2015, 18:37
http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll70/MG34_Dan/needpics_zps4ctw08jg.gif

jugrunner
July 27, 2015, 16:43
http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll70/MG34_Dan/needpics_zps4ctw08jg.gif


and pics you shall have ... and ... after I post them I see they are HUGE ... So Sorry ... I didn't take them ... if someone would like something specific let me know ...

thanks for the help gentlemen ...


http://i59.tinypic.com/fksglk.jpg

http://i57.tinypic.com/2qw0g1x.jpg

http://i61.tinypic.com/1z64b5z.jpg

http://i60.tinypic.com/23kxdz.jpg

http://i57.tinypic.com/qzk65d.jpg

http://i62.tinypic.com/a1nucy.jpg

http://i60.tinypic.com/xgiq2e.jpg

http://i60.tinypic.com/2janggj.jpg

http://i59.tinypic.com/2w7pcwp.jpg

http://i57.tinypic.com/25qwyt5.jpg

http://i60.tinypic.com/jkyvyt.jpg


ETA: and I also have a pic of the current "stamp" but will not post it ...

mg34dan
July 27, 2015, 18:57
It looks like a Fleming clip on conversion. I bought one retail back in '87 for $1200. It's long gone.

The one pictured has a bayonet adapter, carry handle, canvas sling, and light bipod installed. That .22lr conversion kit is a highly desirable commercial kit that can be easily used in both a F/A and a S/A weapon. Notice the 2" rear extension welded on the bolt carrier. Don't let anyone talk you out of that kit in exchange for a more common German surplus G3 conversion kit.

As for value, the weapon alone, with no other added stuff, should be worth ~$18.5K. On a good day, it may go higher. That conversion kit should be worth ~$800, bipod is worth ~$200 (if it has steel feet), carry handle plus canvas sling plus bayonet adapter is worth ~$75.

Impala_Guy
July 27, 2015, 19:50
That's not a G3.....its an HK91 overstamped with G3, and not very well done. $14 k would have been a good price for it assuming its fully transferable to individuals.

Artful
July 28, 2015, 00:18
That's not a G3.....its an HK91 overstamped with G3, and not very well done. $14 k would have been a good price for it assuming its fully transferable to individuals.

So when was the last time you saw NFA HK anything sell for $14K?

Impala_Guy
July 28, 2015, 13:31
So when was the last time you saw NFA HK anything sell for $14K?

Theres one on GB now with a BIN of $16k. Subtract 15-20% dealers commission.

Artful
July 28, 2015, 14:15
Hmm, only found 7 HK MG's and only this on for $18K
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=495840868
which is a registered receiver with conversion of existing trigger pack
and no remarking of receiver - probably home done as no other stampings are shown or mentioned as to who did the conversion.

mg34dan
July 28, 2015, 17:41
Hmm, only found 7 HK MG's and only this on for $18K
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=495840868
which is a registered receiver with conversion of existing trigger pack
and no remarking of receiver - probably home done as no other stampings are shown or mentioned as to who did the conversion.

Also has welded up 91 bolt carrier instead of a G3 one. Nicely done though. This is typical of an early '80s conversion as G3 parts were somewhat rare and costly back then.

http://pics.gunbroker.com/GB/495840000/495840868/pix675555845.jpg

It looks to have a heavy buffer installed too.

http://pics.gunbroker.com/GB/495840000/495840868/pix374481111.jpg

It's not a bad looking clip on conversion. Whoever did the conversion did a nice job and didn't butcher anything. It just lacks some of the finishing touches. This is all easy to correct.

Mark IV
July 28, 2015, 18:32
Very nice piece.

I shot a G3 at Knob Creek. That sucker walked me backwards just as nice as you please.

Convinced me my short dago ass had no business shoulder firing a FA .308.

Impala_Guy
July 28, 2015, 18:35
Hmm, only found 7 HK MG's and only this on for $18K
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=495840868
which is a registered receiver with conversion of existing trigger pack
and no remarking of receiver - probably home done as no other stampings are shown or mentioned as to who did the conversion.

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=496911090

Sampson1986
July 28, 2015, 18:38
Hmm, only found 7 HK MG's and only this on for $18K
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=495840868
which is a registered receiver with conversion of existing trigger pack
and no remarking of receiver - probably home done as no other stampings are shown or mentioned as to who did the conversion.

I've been watching it for a long time (probably close to a year). I believe it was converted by Weapon Specialties of Arizona.

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I'd say a fair price for most clip-on RRs is in the $15k-$17k range depending on accessories, condition, manufacturer, etc.

NFADLR
July 28, 2015, 18:42
Ive had dealings with Ruben Mendiola years ago...Excellent guy to deal with.

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Rueben only buys and sells. He doesn't do consignments at all.:wink:

Sampson1986
July 28, 2015, 18:50
Ive had dealings with Ruben Mendiola years ago...Excellent guy to deal with.

I bought my M2 Carbine from him and was not disappointed at all. His pieces are exceptional.

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A few more RR G3s that are for sale or that have been sold. Ruben has been sitting on his for quite a while, although he has had at least two others in the past year that he sold for $18k each.

http://dealernfa.com/product-category/machine-guns/hk/
http://davidspiwak.com/HK-G3_%28sn-A021712%29.html
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=496911090
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=496911091

jugrunner
July 30, 2015, 17:52
... manuf. by Fleming Firearms - Collinsville, Ok. ... according to the paper work ... don't know if that's good or bad

we'll sort it out ... thanks for all the replies ... !!!

SPEEDGUNNER
July 30, 2015, 18:21
Fleming was big on the HK conversions back in the day, they used to advertise heavily in Shotgun News. If that rifle is a Fleming it will run!

mg34dan
July 30, 2015, 18:32
... manuf. by Fleming Firearms - Collinsville, Ok. ... according to the paper work ... don't know if that's good or bad
we'll sort it out ... thanks for all the replies ... !!!

It's good. Bill Fleming did nice conversions. Like I said, your weapon looks exactly like the one I bought back in '87. That one shot just fine. I wouldn't dick with it except maybe replacing the hammer with a retimed one. That will slow the ROF down to where it should be. Just enjoy your new toy and think of it as an investment you can play with. Be rest assured it will increase in value year to year better than any other investment you may have.

http://www.hkparts.net/shop/pc/catalog/view-3-comparison_1135_detail.jpg
(Retimed hammer on left, non-retimed on right. Notice how low the retimed hammer sits when cocked)

E5c03
July 30, 2015, 19:18
Had Fleming do a PSG-1 conversion,,,back when I was a HKaholic.
Noticed no padlle release either.
Also the receiver style bipod is rarer than those on the forearm.

Mg34dan,,,let's not forget,,the sear is in the trigger pack.
Unless I'm really forgetting,,,
Could put that trigger pack in a 93,,94 too.

Is the right pack have a PSG trigger, minus shoe?
Left isn't a Williams I hope.

mg34dan
July 30, 2015, 20:21
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Mg34dan,,,let's not forget,,the sear is in the trigger pack.
Unless I'm really forgetting,,,
Could put that trigger pack in a 93,,94 too.
...

Nope, you may not put the sear, or trigger pack, into another weapon. What you got is what you got. Period. Just enjoy it. But, it runs just fine with the .22lr conversion kit, too.

NFADLR
July 30, 2015, 21:22
I bought a bunch of sears from BSA back in 90-94 or so and those were able to be used in any platform a grip frame could fit into and or around but since the sear in the 91/g3 in question here isnt the registered part Im betting the receiver is in this case then the trigger pack / sear just another trigger pack / sear and has no serial on the corrasponding form 3/4.


Nope, you may not put the sear, or trigger pack, into another weapon. What you got is what you got. Period. Just enjoy it. But, it runs just fine with the .22lr conversion kit, too.