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Lake713
May 25, 2015, 00:17
I have a chance to buy an M1A Bush Rifle with the Choate folding stock. I love the look of this rifle but have always had my heart set on a Scout Squad.

Anyone here prefer the bush rifle to the scout squad? If so, why?

And what is the opinion of the Choate folding stock on the Bush Rifle?

Jarhead504
May 25, 2015, 19:47
any wire stock is going to thump your cheek bone pretty hard. You will have to have some kind of padding on the wire portion where you hold your spotweld.

Jarhead

hardass
May 26, 2015, 07:19
They are the same rifle with the stock being the only difference. If you can get it for a real good price, buy it ,then buy used USGI stock for $25-$50 and have both.

Jarhead, the Choate is not wire, it's plastic/polymer.

Lake713
May 26, 2015, 19:17
The Scout Squad also has a scout scope attachment and cutout on the stock, along with a muzzle brake as opposed to the flash hider on the Bush Rifle.

ByrnieMac
May 27, 2015, 06:26
I've got a walnut stock scout squad I'll sell you if you want it. I never think someone should settle for a gun they don't exactly have their heart set on.

PM me. You won't be disappointed. It has hardly ever been shot

Lake713
May 27, 2015, 20:01
I actually kind of fell in lust with the Choate stocked Bush Rifle, thinking this whole time my heart was set on a Scout Squad; it muddied the waters. But yeah, PM me with a price and pics.

Jarhead504
May 28, 2015, 18:21
They are the same rifle with the stock being the only difference. If you can get it for a real good price, buy it ,then buy used USGI stock for $25-$50 and have both.

Jarhead, the Choate is not wire, it's plastic/polymer.

Thanks my brother. I was thinking about the earlier Choate stocks for the Mini-14 and Rem 870's that used to have the wire stock.

Jarhead

Warbirds Custom Guns
May 28, 2015, 19:11
Jarhead, the Choate is not wire, it's plastic/polymer.

It's has a heavy steel bar inside a thick plastic coating.
Also very rigid.

Anyone have a close up of the hinge ?


http://s4.postimg.org/w8eyu2iod/choate_foldm14.jpg (http://postimage.org/)




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Lake713
July 07, 2015, 23:03
Anyone have any experience with this Choate folder on a Bush Rifle? The thing hasn't sold yet and I'm still interested in raising the money for it.

John Crusher
July 08, 2015, 06:19
I had a 18" M1A (Thanks Tim) in one and hated it. Recoil and balance sucked. My 18"er sits in a VLTOR and has been there for 9 years or so and the balance and handling is smoooth.

Lake713
July 08, 2015, 21:05
So the balance and recoil are ruined by the Choate stock? I have held the Scout Squad and Socom 16 and the Scout Squad has superb balance. Surprised the Choate stock ruins it (Bush rifle, I know, but it's basically a Scout).

hueyville
July 09, 2015, 00:04
Personal preference is long barrels on M1a's. If carrying a rifle with full size cartridge, my preference in a National Match or Super Match so can optimize the 308 cartridge and shoot those persnikity melon sized target as they peer over cover from 500 yards away. Otherwise carry a kit build FAL and use the money saved for more milsurp ammo to lob down range. Now that having a love affair with 6.8 spc AR's that is bordering on perversion, the short barrel 7.62x51 makes no sense when I can build a 6.5 pound 6.8 that hits as hard as a 16" or 18" 308 out to 400 yards with less recoil and lighter ammo to carry. Honestly believe the 6.8 has made the short barrel 308 a rifle to hang on wall for decoration. I want my M1a's to extend my range beyond the majority of other guys, not just knock bigger hole at close range.

Lake713
July 09, 2015, 14:19
Not a fan of ARs but I wouldn't mind seeing the 6.8 becoming an ubiquitous caliber.

John Crusher
July 09, 2015, 21:00
Personal preference is long barrels on M1a's. If carrying a rifle with full size cartridge, my preference in a National Match or Super Match so can optimize the 308 cartridge and shoot those persnikity melon sized target as they peer over cover from 500 yards away. Otherwise carry a kit build FAL and use the money saved for more milsurp ammo to lob down range. Now that having a love affair with 6.8 spc AR's that is bordering on perversion, the short barrel 7.62x51 makes no sense when I can build a 6.5 pound 6.8 that hits as hard as a 16" or 18" 308 out to 400 yards with less recoil and lighter ammo to carry. Honestly believe the 6.8 has made the short barrel 308 a rifle to hang on wall for decoration. I want my M1a's to extend my range beyond the majority of other guys, not just knock bigger hole at close range.

I regularly bang the crap out of gongs at 450-600 yds. 18" is still m.o.m.

Lake713
July 10, 2015, 01:02
So is the general consensus that the Choate stock sucks on these old Bush Rifles? And as an aside, does anyone prefer the Socom 16 to the Scout Squad/Bush Rifle?

Timber Wolf
July 12, 2015, 06:28
They are the same rifle with the stock being the only difference. If you can get it for a real good price, buy it ,then buy used USGI stock for $25-$50 and have both.

Where can you buy USGI stocks for $25-$50 these days?

hardass
July 12, 2015, 07:50
I recently bought 10 for $120 shipped from a member of the m14forums