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flopshot
May 19, 2015, 21:36
personal vendetta... going against two CZs at 100 yards with a semi. so far free floated the barrel, trigger work, pillared the take down screw and new scope. ordered a bull barrel today and plan to pillar the the front of it when it gets here and i carve out the stock. installed a bipod, bedded the ass end of the receiver. something about taking your brother in law's dollar with a semi auto while he wields a 500.00 bolt gut that drives me. after the barrel i'll profile the bolt carrier an polish some more, pin the firing pin. so far it likes Eley or Remington Thunderbolts and hates the everloving shit out of hyper velocity rounds. cut some more trees to extended my "range" to 100 yards which is the game we play. any real world 10/22 advice will be greatly appreciated. could be i'm jousting windmills but damn if it ain't a challenge.

Jaxxas
May 19, 2015, 21:40
personal vendetta... going against two CZs at 100 yards with a semi. so far free floated the barrel, trigger work, pillared the take down screw and new scope. ordered a bull barrel today and plan to pillar the the front of it when it gets here and i carve out the stock. installed a bipod, bedded the ass end of the receiver. something about taking your brother in law's dollar with a semi auto while he wields a 500.00 bolt gut that drives me. after the barrel i'll profile the bolt carrier an polish some more, pin the firing pin. so far it likes Eley or Remington Thunderbolts and hates the everloving shit out of hyper velocity rounds. cut some more trees to extended my "range" to 100 yards which is the game we play. any real world 10/22 advice will be greatly appreciated. could be i'm jousting windmills but damn if it ain't a challenge.


Mine will shoot MOA or better all day, but I have considerably more than $500 in it!:rolleyes:

http://i587.photobucket.com/albums/ss317/The_JaXXas/IMG_0202.jpg (http://s587.photobucket.com/user/The_JaXXas/media/IMG_0202.jpg.html)

flopshot
May 20, 2015, 05:17
nice rifle. chock full of Kidd and Volquartsen i would guess.

ArtBanks
May 20, 2015, 07:58
When set up right , they can be very accurate.
Wolf extra match is the food for this one. Doesn't really care for Tenex.

http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x413/nf1e/March272012accuracyweapons006.jpg (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/nf1e/media/March272012accuracyweapons006.jpg.html)

Semper Fi
Art

MAINER
May 20, 2015, 08:00
flopshot, in my vast experience with Ruger 10/22's, all one of them, you would likely benefit greatly with a slicked-up trigger of some kind. Lots of options there, some kind of costly as you'd expect. You have the barrel covered already.

I'd like to try my hand at that game just to see how my 10/22 LVT would fare. It has a medium weight 20" barrel and Ruger's "Match" trigger, but I don't think it's up to replacing the Win 52 in the accuracy division. It could likely benefit from a better trigger puller that could see and didn't breathe so hard. :sad:

Jaxxas, are there ANY Ruger parts in that rifle? :D
Good looking set-up anyways!

gunplumber
May 20, 2015, 08:05
If that's what one is looking for - heavy target - build it piece by piece. Not worth starting with a Ruger. I ended up building a generic 10/22 with left-overs from building 10/22s. I had an extra match barrel, and all the other parts less the receiver were take-offs. And I use the factory triggers with some work. But unless you're doing it yourself and your labor is free, you may as well buy that too.

My goal was a little different. I wanted lightweight survival poaching rifles, so I went with hogue stocks, aluminum barrels Leupy 2x7 compact scopes. The one with the steel barrel was already heavy, so I went with a boyd's target stock. That stock you have above is really sexy.

fnogger
May 20, 2015, 08:16
Mine hovers just over MOA with good (SK Std+, etc) ammo.

1976 pawn shop rescue $180. Sold off the walnut stock, metal butt plate, and metal barrel band, so about $100 in receiver, trigger, and bolt. Had trigger worked over ($45 - Brimstone tier 3 or trade in your existing group for a swampf0x modified one, or if you have a plastic trigger group get the $105 drop in kit from KIDD). Replaced barrel with Green Mountain 20" bull (.920) blued. Cheapest they make, $110. Boyds "tacticool" stock, unfinished, from Midway ($100). Aluminum tape (for "temporary" bedding - been a year, still haven't redone with a permament method), and other supplies $30.

Or, if you don't want to piece something together, get a LVT ($350ish), have some trigger work done ($45-105), add glass and good ammo. The LVT is the best bang for the buck for out of the box accuracy in the 10/22 world.

Or if you really wanna shock your buddies, get a true sleeper going. Get a standard carbine, and send to CPC for a full work over - bolt redone, trigger work, barrel set back and rechambered with a more "match like" chamber - $200ish.

Then comes the glass, which you'll need no matter which method you go with for getting an accurate rifle built up. Re-used my scope (Simmons WTC 6.5-20x50) but could've gotten another for $120ish from Midway, or a Meuller 8-32x44 w/ AO, target turrets, and a fine dot ($250ish). Or spring for the Weaver T-36 at $350ish

So, no matter which way you go, you'll be $450ish plus glass. I just got a CZ 455 Varmint that gives MOA groups with Sk STD+ for $411 from Buds, plus $25 transfer....

CivyBlue
May 20, 2015, 09:33
This is the one I had my eyes on...bit of a different purpose though


http://cdn2.armslist.com/sites/armslist/uploads/posts/2015/02/19/4049223_01_ruger_10_22_loaded_with_extras_640.jpg

flopshot
May 20, 2015, 11:33
Jaxxas, are there ANY Ruger parts in that rifle? :D

my thoughts as well.

flopshot
May 20, 2015, 11:39
If that's what one is looking for - heavy target - build it piece by piece. Not worth starting with a Ruger.

no doubt but i already had the donor. doing the work myself and enjoying the learning process. much more challenging than folding AKs. by the time i get done i'll have two rifles. hey ! i found a way to get more guns in the house !!!

flopshot
May 20, 2015, 11:41
fnogger, how do you like your 455 ? that's next on the list but i want the two barrel combo in .22LR and 17HMR. does your 455 shoot as well as the long ass barreled 452s ?

Jaxxas
May 20, 2015, 11:48
nice rifle. chock full of Kidd and Volquartsen i would guess.

Yes sir!

Jaxxas
May 20, 2015, 11:49
Jaxxas, are there ANY Ruger parts in that rifle? :D
Good looking set-up anyways!


Nope, thanks!

fnogger
May 20, 2015, 13:13
fnogger, how do you like your 455 ? that's next on the list but i want the two barrel combo in .22LR and 17HMR. does your 455 shoot as well as the long ass barreled 452s ?

I've only got about 300 rounds thru the 455, but it is keeping MOA with SK Std+ . Loving it.

Never shot a 452, so I don't have a comparison there.

flopshot
May 20, 2015, 20:40
talked some serious shit to the B.I.L. tonight....the sleeper semi is gonna create some fun... our buddy with the range just dropped 1500.00 on an Anschutz so shit is getting sporty. at some point it all comes down the the trigger finger. gonna be a fun summer.

Artful
May 20, 2015, 22:27
After your mod's you will need to go thru all the ammo again to see
what your rifle will now like best. Unfortunately in todays world you
don't have the choices that you once did. But generally I like to slick
up the bolt - round the back of it - and check out the accuracy of
standard velocity ammo. If you don't do the bolt work then
your going to have malfunctions with standard velocity.

wonderdog451
May 21, 2015, 00:39
Mine hovers just over MOA with good (SK Std+, etc) ammo.

1976 pawn shop rescue $180. Sold off the walnut stock, metal butt plate, and metal barrel band, so about $100 in receiver, trigger, and bolt. Had trigger worked over ($45 - Brimstone tier 3 or trade in your existing group for a swampf0x modified one, or if you have a plastic trigger group get the $105 drop in kit from KIDD). Replaced barrel with Green Mountain 20" bull (.920) blued. Cheapest they make, $110. Boyds "tacticool" stock, unfinished, from Midway ($100). Aluminum tape (for "temporary" bedding - been a year, still haven't redone with a permament method), and other supplies $30.

Or, if you don't want to piece something together, get a LVT ($350ish), have some trigger work done ($45-105), add glass and good ammo. The LVT is the best bang for the buck for out of the box accuracy in the 10/22 world.

Or if you really wanna shock your buddies, get a true sleeper going. Get a standard carbine, and send to CPC for a full work over - bolt redone, trigger work, barrel set back and rechambered with a more "match like" chamber - $200ish.

Then comes the glass, which you'll need no matter which method you go with for getting an accurate rifle built up. Re-used my scope (Simmons WTC 6.5-20x50) but could've gotten another for $120ish from Midway, or a Meuller 8-32x44 w/ AO, target turrets, and a fine dot ($250ish). Or spring for the Weaver T-36 at $350ish

So, no matter which way you go, you'll be $450ish plus glass. I just got a CZ 455 Varmint that gives MOA groups with Sk STD+ for $411 from Buds, plus $25 transfer....

I have a really accurate 10/22 rifle built using "option 3" from your list, it is so accurate that it gets boring sometimes.I also have another 10/22, that utilizes a Volquartsen "tensioned" barrel, reworked trigger and bolt and both of them are mounted in Hogue " over-molded" stocks. The Volquartsen rifle also has a 10x scope mounted on it and like the other rifle, is so accurate it gets boring sometimes shooting it at 50 yards

flopshot
May 21, 2015, 05:16
After your mod's you will need to go thru all the ammo again to see
what your rifle will now like best. Unfortunately in todays world you
don't have the choices that you once did. But generally I like to slick
up the bolt - round the back of it - and check out the accuracy of
standard velocity ammo. If you don't do the bolt work then
your going to have malfunctions with standard velocity.

not planning on hi v ammo. so far in standard trim it prefers Remington Thunderbolts and Eley Pistol Match. Hi V ammo is all over the map. I have some work to do before the hundred yard paper gets hung.
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b142/jgaito/Mobile%20Uploads/20150510_183834_zpsfg4grlfd.jpg

fnogger
May 21, 2015, 09:01
not planning on hi v ammo. so far in standard trim it prefers Remington Thunderbolts and Eley Pistol Match. Hi V ammo is all over the map. I have some work to do before the hundred yard paper gets hung.


Never got good accuracy with any of the Ely offerings...

I'd head to champchoice.com and get some SK Rifle Match - close to $9/box but VERY good ammo, and they have cases in stock...

http://www.champchoice.com/store/Main.aspx?p=ItemDetailOptions&item=420108

flopshot
May 21, 2015, 16:39
Never got good accuracy with any of the Ely offerings...

I'd head to champchoice.com and get some SK Rifle Match - close to $9/box but VERY good ammo, and they have cases in stock...

http://www.champchoice.com/store/Main.aspx?p=ItemDetailOptions&item=420108

thanks.

flopshot
December 22, 2015, 22:32
10/22 transformation complete.
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b142/jgaito/Mobile%20Uploads/20151119_200714_zpsmm85okcn.jpg

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b142/jgaito/Mobile%20Uploads/20151125_170953_zpsgoo7g4mo.jpg


well she's got her prom dress on and is ready to dance. the 4x16-40 will come in handy.
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b142/jgaito/DSC00090_zpsdcwjouox.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b142/jgaito/DSC00089_zpssixbvnhu.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b142/jgaito/DSC00088_zpsayph7xsv.jpg

fifty yard five shot groups before the teardown:
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b142/jgaito/Mobile%20Uploads/20151129_143256_zpspl2e3efk.jpg

Jaxxas
December 22, 2015, 23:47
Holy Shite Batman! Nice groups too! With that paint job are you over $500 yet? It's beautiful!

flopshot
December 23, 2015, 09:11
best i can figure is around 300.00. paid 125.00 for the rifle years ago, 125.00 for the Green Mountain bull, a little trigger and bolt work and a few cans of paint. lots of time sanding, bedding, filling and reading. i'd like to start on a Kidd build after i get past the Christmas bills.

gunplumber
December 23, 2015, 09:38
what's the thought behind the rear receiver bolt? I've not seen that before.

Just got a magpul stock in, am favorably impressed.

flopshot
December 23, 2015, 10:15
what's the thought behind the rear receiver bolt? I've not seen that before.

Just got a magpul stock in, am favorably impressed.

cross pining is an alternative to the rear tang to lock in the receiver. the 10/22 take down screw isn't all that great at keeping things in place even after bedding the receiver and a bit in front of the v-block.

gunplumber
December 23, 2015, 10:23
Is there a super-easy way to locate the hole in the stock?

flopshot
December 23, 2015, 11:40
Is there a super-easy way to locate the hole in the stock?

yep. very much like the way i locate front trunion hole on AKs. 2" aluminum angle attached to the receiver with the scope mount screws leaving space enough for the metal to clear the stock. mark and drill through the other side of the receiver into the aluminum to index the hole. once marked drill through the angle stock side into the receiver carefully to the other side of the stock. adjust hole diameter and location, tap the receiver pin holes to 1/4-28. there are other attachment means like shoulder bolts and whatnot. here ya go:
http://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=349791

gunplumber
December 23, 2015, 12:08
very well done.

What's this pin you refer to? I'm guessing a 1/4" pin with side-load spring?

flopshot
December 23, 2015, 13:03
very well done.

What's this pin you refer to? I'm guessing a 1/4" pin with side-load spring?

trigger group pin. the cross bolting / pinning replaces the OEM pin.