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paco
April 18, 2015, 17:05
Hi folks. Sounds a bit weird but i'm able to buy a few unfired full auto AUG's from a testfacility in Europe. No panic, i 'm not an American.
So, in the bunker there are several guns and i try to get the most interesting out.
These 2 AUG's came along. One has a bipod, the other one not.
There are 2 spare barrels too. All are mint.

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a254/joeplf/DSCN7696_zpsdlz8iq1b.jpg (http://s13.photobucket.com/user/joeplf/media/DSCN7696_zpsdlz8iq1b.jpg.html)
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Aside these i have an option on some Dutch FALs L85, FAMAS, mp5, galils, ...

What's your input on these 2. Go, or no go?

Andy the Aussie
April 18, 2015, 17:12
Stock standard early "A1" (though not really known as that) AUGs. The top is the heavy barrelled "LSW" version, I think inspired by the British L85LSW. It was a concept that never caught well. Later models were sold using a larger optic and the AUG "S" receiver and opted as a quasi marksman version. It was for the LSW version that the 42 round magazines were made. It sould have the unusual muzzle brake as well (I think it does but the monitor I have sux).

The second is a plane version AUG "A1". Should have the doughnut reticle optic (though there were some variations on this).

I was involved with both these versions in the 80s during the small arms trials here that lead to us adopting what we called the F88 (AUG made at Lithgow).

ftierson
April 18, 2015, 17:59
Maybe it's just the angle in the picture(s), but the scope tube on the standard rifle looks just a tad too long...

Maybe it's just the cap...

Forrest

Andy the Aussie
April 18, 2015, 20:58
It is the shipping cover Steyr put on those optics that is making it look off Forrest.

Andy

Brian in MN
April 19, 2015, 09:58
I was involved with both these versions in the 80s during the small arms trials here that lead to us adopting what we called the F88 (AUG made at Lithgow).

So, it's your fault.

Brian in MN
April 19, 2015, 10:10
Both look like very nice rifles, paco. I just couldn't resist a chance to poke at Andy a bit. :D

If it is a situation where you have to choose only 2 from what is available I'd take a long look at the FAMAS. Don't know that they are any "better". The French rifles are just crazy rare here.

Seven Click's Up
April 19, 2015, 10:34
Geez- What can I say, If I were you, I'd just buy them. I'm pretty sure you could recoup your initial cost.
I really do like the Aug.

paco
April 19, 2015, 13:03
It is all about choises. To much out there. To little budget. I missed the fn mag but scores both augs... Got both other bullpubs to. Paperwork is progress. The wife is pissed off a bit. Dont know why :-)

ftierson
April 19, 2015, 14:06
It is all about choises. To much out there. To little budget. I missed the fn mag but scores both augs... Got both other bullpubs to. Paperwork is progress. The wife is pissed off a bit. Dont know why :-)

Congratulations on picking up a couple of nice guns...

Good luck with your wife... :)

Forrest

Andy the Aussie
April 19, 2015, 14:31
So, it's your fault. ....... nope.... !!!

Seven Click's Up
April 19, 2015, 17:01
It is all about choises. To much out there. To little budget. I missed the fn mag but scores both augs... Got both other bullpubs to. Paperwork is progress. The wife is pissed off a bit. Dont know why :-)

I understand. You do have a nice collection though.
It would be very hard for me to pass up ANY of them!

moonbat60
April 20, 2015, 20:02
Paco, I've got a 2013 AUG A3. Never regretted it.

The only thing is......I don't fancy the long barrels quite as much.

A bullpup needs to be short and compact, otherwise it'll defeat its purpose.

paco
April 21, 2015, 15:41
Paco, I've got a 2013 AUG A3. Never regretted it.

The only thing is......I don't fancy the long barrels quite as much.

A bullpup needs to be short and compact, otherwise it'll defeat its purpose.
The barrels came with the deal...
Just a"luxe" problem :D
:aug:

All the paperwork is in the pipeline. Hope this goes well...
I can imagine the face of the lady that takes care of it. " Here we go again"
At this point i'm more interested in the FAL's, FA-MAS (3burst!) and L85A1 to find out all details. Saw the AUG system before but never had one.

Paco

moonbat60
April 21, 2015, 16:31
Paco,

if you got the barrels with the deal, it is fine.

As I said, I ain't got no use for a long barreled bullpup. But that's just a matter of personal preference.....

I see a bullpup as the poor man's SBR....

With the AUGs, you get pretty much two things in the same deal....they are both collectibles and good shooting irons.....

Brian in MN
April 22, 2015, 09:24
It is all about choises. To much out there. To little budget. I missed the fn mag but scores both augs... Got both other bullpubs to. Paperwork is progress. The wife is pissed off a bit. Dont know why :-)


Cool. I like your choices. Is there a bullpup that you don't have now?

paco
April 24, 2015, 14:14
Cool. I like your choices. Is there a bullpup that you don't have now?More as i ever can pay for...

L Haney
April 24, 2015, 18:05
No panic, i 'm not an American.


I read this in context. Then I read it again in a different context.

I like this a lot.

Think I'll have it printed in large, friendly letters on some T shirts for the next time I leave the country.

paco
April 24, 2015, 18:10
I read this in context. Then I read it again in a different context.

I like this a lot.

Think I'll have it printed in large, friendly letters on some T shirts for the next time I leave the country.
:D clever guys out there

Brian in MN
April 25, 2015, 10:18
I read this in context. Then I read it again in a different context.

I like this a lot.

Think I'll have it printed in large, friendly letters on some T shirts for the next time I leave the country.

The folks from north of the border have been putting maple leaves on their backpacks for years for exactly this reason.

Lee Carpentieri
April 25, 2015, 14:36
Paco, I've had as in past tenth's 3 Aug's. First one was a standard A 1, 2nd was an A 1 Special receiver and the 3rd was an A 2. Had a Full-auto military trigger pack in one that was registered here in the USA .You'll love the 24 inch model as it will be the MOST accurate for longer distance's. As you probably already know, When you pull the trigger partially in you'll get semi-auto fire, Pull it all the way in and get Full-auto fire. Just DON't touch anything metal when firing or when done shooting or you will get up to or more 3rd degree burns on your skin. Even the scope will get hot after allot of shooting. Hands on Plastic ONLY when shooting. With all the other weapons you have plus being in the Belgium Military reserve you should have no problems with the paperwork getting passed to you. I've had all the Factory barrels also from shortest to the 24 inch HB with bipod. Have fun with them when you get them. Lee.

paco
April 27, 2015, 12:01
Paco, I've had as in past tenth's 3 Aug's. First one was a standard A 1, 2nd was an A 1 Special receiver and the 3rd was an A 2. Had a Full-auto military trigger pack in one that was registered here in the USA .You'll love the 24 inch model as it will be the MOST accurate for longer distance's. As you probably already know, When you pull the trigger partially in you'll get semi-auto fire, Pull it all the way in and get Full-auto fire. Just DON't touch anything metal when firing or when done shooting or you will get up to or more 3rd degree burns on your skin. Even the scope will get hot after allot of shooting. Hands on Plastic ONLY when shooting. With all the other weapons you have plus being in the Belgium Military reserve you should have no problems with the paperwork getting passed to you. I've had all the Factory barrels also from shortest to the 24 inch HB with bipod. Have fun with them when you get them. Lee.
I know the trigger thing. FN has a same system in there P90's
I fired several AUG's while on duty. Loved the croshair dot since our FNC's had only iron sights and early 90's it was forbidden to mount a scope. My CO called me an irresponsable bad example for the troops i had under my command becouse i mounted a 4x FN scope on my FNC :biggrin:
Implementing the "slicing the pie" and other FIBUA technics was also not appreciated and, if a soldier had a malfunction, you were not to train him how to solve that. An NCO had to clear that for him. Bringing in my own guns to train them foreign weapons was also not OK for him. Boy what an asshole...
He called me rambo, cowboy, unrealistic and so on. Guess what they learn the troops now :wink:

Paco out

ftierson
April 27, 2015, 12:39
I know the trigger thing. FN has a same system in there P90's
I fired several AUG's while on duty. Loved the croshair dot since our FNC's had only iron sights and early 90's it was forbidden to mount a scope. My CO called me an irresponsable bad example for the troops i had under my command becouse i mounted a 4x FN scope on my FNC :biggrin:
Implementing the "slicing the pie" and other FIBUA technics was also not appreciated and, if a soldier had a malfunction, you were not to train him how to solve that. An NCO had to clear that for him. Bringing in my own guns to train them foreign weapons was also not OK for him. Boy what an asshole...
He called me rambo, cowboy, unrealistic and so on. Guess what they learn the troops now :wink:

Paco out

We (here), having to deal with assholes all the time, tend to forget that there are assholes everywhere...

My favorite example of this is from the movie Zulu, where the British Army QM is requiring soldiers to sign for ammo while the Zulus are spearing them... :)

Forrest

Rudolf
May 04, 2015, 15:05
Good god..I would love to have an AUG here in Hungary.

NZ L1A1 Collector
May 14, 2015, 22:32
Don't wrap your fingers around the front grip when its in the up position...... ohhhhh wait disregard that.... just make sure you have someone with a video camera when you do. :devil:

I really disliked the AUG when we were issued them, they were heavier than a M16A1, the stupid mags weren't interchangeable with the C9 LMG we had and if you can't cock the rifle you can't pull the damn thing apart.

paco
June 25, 2015, 11:59
They got in, plus spares, mags, cleaningstuf and so on...

More detailed pics soon!
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Matell
June 25, 2015, 12:37
Very nice!!!!

Looking forward to the follow on pics!