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MacRob
January 05, 2015, 08:42
I have two questions regarding the NEW Ruger Red Label O/U shotgun:

1. Has anyone out there got one or had the opportunity to handle and shoot one and if so, what was your impression?

2. Has it been discontinued by Ruger already? I base this on a comment I saw on an auction site saying that it will not be manufactured in 2015. Heck, they just revived it and the gun magazine reviews have been mostly positive!

I am thinking about buying one but in the backwater where I live getting to examine one without ordering it first is very difficult and I have a Remington 11-87 that I am enjoying very much now.

Thanks for any assistance you can provide.:p

Slow
January 05, 2015, 12:11
http://www.majorpandemic.com/2014/07/Ruger-Red-Label-Shotgun-review.html





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W.E.G.
January 05, 2015, 12:45
I have discussed this gun with the Fudds who shoot a lot of claybirds, and who spend a lot of time waddling from their cars to the skeet/trap fields with similar-looking fuddsticks.

The Fudds will tell you that other brands (Browning, Beretta, Perazzi, etc.) are much better for such fuddery.

https://www.google.com/#q=Ruger+red+label+problems

MacRob
January 05, 2015, 22:15
I have discussed this gun with the Fudds who shoot a lot of claybirds, and who spend a lot of time waddling from their cars to the skeet/trap fields with similar-looking fuddsticks.

The Fudds will tell you that other brands (Browning, Beretta, Perazzi, etc.) are much better for such fuddery.

https://www.google.com/#q=Ruger+red+label+problems

The Red Label seems to be designed primarily for upland game bird shooting. That does not preclude it from being a good shotgun for sporting clays, which is, of course, simulated hunting. My 11-87, however, has enabled me to shoot better scores than a few guys carrying the brands of shotguns you mention and it is also designed as a hunting shotgun. ;)

W.E.G.
January 06, 2015, 00:45
That's what it comes down to.

If you shoot it well, and it doesn't fail mechanically, its a good gun for you.

Abominog
January 06, 2015, 13:33
I have one that's about 15 years old.

Good gun for the money. Call it a Honda Accord. Great at nothing, bad at nothing.

The new model has been "re-engineered" which means cost-reduced. The quality of finish (and probably more) is not up to par with the pre-2011 RL, and that wasn't perfection by any means.

Like most things though, if you are going to buy new, for the money you can get into a FAR better used gun. MSRP now is $1300; LGS has a gorgeous, barely used Beretta, asking $1600. Even if actual selling price on the new RL is $1000, for that you can get into at least a Browning or Ithaca that shoots just as well, is a lot more comfortable, and won't lose value.

Ultimately though, as long as the thing goes bang, skill is more important than the tool. A $1000 rod won't make me fish better. All considered, you can get into a Japanese Ithaca for $600 or so, and those are beautiful. If after 100,000 rounds you find that isn't good enough, add another grand to it and get a used Beretta.

V guy
January 07, 2015, 18:06
http://www.joeletchenguns.com/tips.htm

Rudy Etchen was one of the best who ever lived. He shot a Remington 870 in trap and skeet. Different stocks for each, but there it is....

Red Label is not favored, except for hunting.

Fuddism, is not fuddy.

MacRob
January 16, 2015, 15:59
http://www.joeletchenguns.com/tips.htm

Rudy Etchen was one of the best who ever lived. He shot a Remington 870 in trap and skeet. Different stocks for each, but there it is....

Red Label is not favored, except for hunting.

Fuddism, is not fuddy.

That's very interesting. I shot an 870 for over 35 years, for everything then I got a shoulder problem which caused me to move to the auto for less recoil. My 870 with a 26 in. vent rib barrel in IC was what I started shooting clays with. It is a great shotgun and Mr. Etchen certainly did well with his. Thanks for posting the link. I was not thinking of the RL for Skeet which I seldom shoot. It would be primarily for sporting clays and upland game birds. Any way, I have had some unexpected expenses which has used up my gun money temporarily so I have time to contemplate. The shoulder problem is fixed, by the way.