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BubbaTheKid
November 19, 2014, 09:49
Whom applies the Belgium Proofs for The City of Liege. The Egg with the crown and letters inside & the tower?

I'm considering a Colt 1911a1, 1943, Re-Blued, Belgium Proofs on Frame, Barrel & Slide. No back story. Just the gun.

I have yet to persuade the internet to show me another.

What's the story based on the gun?

How'd it get that way?

nwobhm
November 19, 2014, 10:25
http://forums.1911forum.com/showthread.php?t=386372

SAFN49
November 19, 2014, 10:53
In Europe many countries require guns that are imported for sale be proofed by that countries proof house. You will find Colt's and S&W's with German, Belgian, or English proofs. Many of these were lend lease and then later sold to the public.

BubbaTheKid
November 19, 2014, 11:14
Interesting thread. Thank You for that. very different 1911 on that thread tho. The one I am referencing retains all of its USGI stamps, & serials, has the Belgium Proof added to the Frame, Slide & Barrel and blued.

What Governemnt Agency in Belgium applies the Stamp? Does FN have the stamp and authority to apply it? Does an unemplyed gunsmith?

007
November 19, 2014, 11:54
Interesting thread. Thank You for that. very different 1911 on that thread tho. The one I am referencing retains all of its USGI stamps, & serials, has the Belgium Proof added to the Frame, Slide & Barrel and blued.

What Governemnt Agency in Belgium applies the Stamp? Does FN have the stamp and authority to apply it? Does an unemplyed gunsmith?


Liège Capital City Of Gunmakers.
http://ufa-belgium.com/

LIEGE, THE BELGIAN PROOF HOUSE - http://www.bancdepreuves.be An institution for the benefit commerce and the safety of the user».
The proof was born in 1672 with the aim to warranty to users a minimum level of legal safety.
In 1868 the Proof House obtained the legal status and was confirmed as the highest authority for compulsatory proofs for all firearms and components made in Belgium.
Foreign firearms and components coming from countries not members of C.I.P. are subjected to the same rules When a firearm satisfies to the stringent standards of the legal Proof, it is officially hallmarked. Such stamp gives the user a label of safety.

Firearms History, Technology & Development
http://firearmshistory.blogspot.com/2011/01/testing-firearms-proof-test.html

Proof Marks-NRA Museum
www.nramuseum.org/media/940944/proofmarks.pdf

BubbaTheKid
November 19, 2014, 12:19
Outstanding 007! Thank You. Looks like I need to learn a foreign language to fully grasp their web page. Looks like they create a registry of every firearm they proof. I sent an email asking after the 1943 Colt 1911a1 in question based on its serial#.

Thank You again :bow:

007
November 19, 2014, 12:29
Outstanding 007! Thank You. Looks like I need to learn a foreign language to fully grasp their web page. Looks like they create a registry of every firearm they proof. I sent an email asking after the 1943 Colt 1911a1 in question based on its serial#.

Thank You again :bow:

Your welcome, and good luck with your search. Please follow up with any info you may obtain.:cheers:

007
November 19, 2014, 12:52
Here you may find more useful information about your pistol.

http://proofhouse.com/

http://www.nramuseum.org/gun-info-research/proof-marks-from-the-blue-book.aspx

BubbaTheKid
December 01, 2014, 11:39
I received a very polite reply from Belgium:

Hello,
We are very sorry, but there is no record available for the moment for that kind of research.

Best regards,

Banc d'Epreuves des Armes à feu
Proefbank voor Vuurwapens
Rue Fond-des-Tawes, 45
B-4000 LIEGE
Tel : +32 4 227 14 55
Fax : +32 4 227 81 78

info@bancdepreuves.be
www.bancdepreuves.be