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tallen702
November 01, 2013, 06:48
Hi guys,

I was wondering what the opinion was on building a semi-only Sten from a SARCO kit and getting the SBR stamp for it to keep it a reasonable length.

All told I'm looking at a $550 project after the kit, barrel, semi-bolt, new receiver, and tax stamp. While not super cheap, it's still manageable for a neat piece of history. Any pitfalls you guys can think of that I'd need to avoid with the SBR stamp? Anyone built a Sten before?

It's my first NFA consideration for a build, so I figured I'd check in here. Thanks for any advice in advance!

jdmcomp
November 01, 2013, 07:06
Had the same thought but I do wonder how you can make the budget you give. At 350 for parts alone I might think you could come up short. Machining costs are high, so I am guessing you will do all of that. What design are you using for the FC (always best to use one that has already been reviewed and passed by the ATF)?

Adding accessories such as the carry bag, lots of mags, loader, sling, and so on could double that parts price. Keep us posted as to progress.

greenpeas
November 01, 2013, 08:28
Most open bolt autos make so-so semi-autos.

Gunthings.com has the kits with barrel for $325 and other parts kits.

tallen702
November 01, 2013, 12:18
Here's my cost breakdown:

Tube (http://stenparts.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=5&products_id=9) $35 (plus shipping)
Kit (http://www.e-sarcoinc.com/stenmkiipartskitwithbarrel.aspx) $69 (plus shipping)
8" 9mm Barrel (http://www.indianapolisordnance.com/sten_mk3.html) $75 (plus shipping)
Semi Auto Bolt (http://www.semiautosten.com/sten_007.htm) $159.99 (plus shipping)

Total: $338.99 (plus shipping)

I've got a mill to do the machining on the tube. What other stuff would I need?

mpnv
November 01, 2013, 12:32
What other stuff would I need?

Since your in Maryland, low cap mags








or a file in a cake when they lock you up:biggrin:

tallen702
November 01, 2013, 15:15
Since your in Maryland, low cap mags
or a file in a cake when they lock you up:biggrin:

That's why I'd have the kit shipped to my place in WV. :biggrin:

You just can't have them shipped to or buy them in MD, you can buy them elsewhere and bring them in though!

Really hoping the firearms community gets their collective heads out of their butts this coming June. Thousands showed up to protest last year, but only 1/3rd were registered to vote, so the people in office said, "Hah! you don't matter!"

Timber Wolf
November 01, 2013, 15:16
I don't know anything about this (but that will not stop me from posting an opinon:uhoh:) but if it was me I would do the following:
"Everything except the kit for semi": http://www.semiautosten.com/sten_006.htm
Fake weld-on suppresor: http://www.semiautosten.com/sten_007.htm
Forget about the tax stamp that way and still be legal. I don't see enough fun out of a bastard semi-Sten short-barrel to make registration worth it myself.

Sampson1986
November 01, 2013, 17:21
I thought about building a semi-auto STEN many years ago when I first became interested in the design. Never got around to it and ended up selling the kit to a guy here on the Files.

Artful
November 01, 2013, 18:24
I'd do it as Integrally suppressed model - way cooler than SBR

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_SrAWRVaUg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7fp3qLPz6k

tallen702
November 02, 2013, 10:03
I don't know anything about this (but that will not stop me from posting an opinon:uhoh:) but if it was me I would do the following:
"Everything except the kit for semi": http://www.semiautosten.com/sten_006.htm
Fake weld-on suppresor: http://www.semiautosten.com/sten_007.htm
Forget about the tax stamp that way and still be legal. I don't see enough fun out of a bastard semi-Sten short-barrel to make registration worth it myself.

Thanks for the links! I think I'll still go SBR instead of fake suppressor. If I'm going to put a big ol' honkin' can on something, it's going to be for actual suppression, not for looks, but that's just me!

W.E.G.
November 02, 2013, 10:19
What's "worth" got to do with it?

If you enjoy the experience it might be worth it.

If there were any lasting commercial value, Century would be building them hand over fist.

Artful
November 02, 2013, 11:29
Thanks for the links! I think I'll still go SBR instead of fake suppressor. If I'm going to put a big ol' honkin' can on something, it's going to be for actual suppression, not for looks, but that's just me!

I'd only do it with real suppression - if your spending $200 for a tax stamp
why not really get something good for it.

tallen702
November 02, 2013, 12:58
What's "worth" got to do with it?

If you enjoy the experience it might be worth it.

If there were any lasting commercial value, Century would be building them hand over fist.

In all fairness, they kind of did at one point. Remember those horribly loooong sterling "carbines" and horribly ugly sterling "pistols" they sold for a while? I don't think they really moved that many of them in the long run.

As for suppressing it, maybe later. Cost of suppressor on top of everything else makes it prohibitive right now.

Edit: Went ahead and ordered the parts kit today. I'll do the tube, bolt, and barrel kit either later this month or early next. Guess I'm building a Sten!

Super Dakę
November 02, 2013, 14:29
The question is, if it's worth it to you. I do agree with the previous post that open bolt full autos may not make great semi-autos (you're going from a very simple design, and re-engineering it to satisfy the ATF, which adds a lot of parts and changes other parts). But if it's what you want and can afford, go for it. I also agree with doing a SBR or a real suppressor. The 16" Century Sterlings (both pencil BBL and full shroud) look like butt IMHO.
Would I spend that money to build any semi auto? probably not. Would I send DLO $5200 for a registered tube, and another $4200 (plus a parts kit) to KGB to build an integrally suppressed Sterling MK 5, already did :) But there's a full auto Sterling MK 4 already in my safe.

juanni
November 02, 2013, 21:22
Ya think he is really going to get approved for a suppressor ...... in Maryland? :rofl::rofl::rofl:



.........juanni

tallen702
November 03, 2013, 11:44
Ya think he is really going to get approved for a suppressor ...... in Maryland? :rofl::rofl::rofl:



.........juanni
Suppressors are pretty common up here actually. Neighbor has 8 and I have lots of friends who have them too.

tallen702
November 04, 2013, 14:25
Well, scratch that idea.

Ordered the Mk III kit via e-sarcoinc and had it it hit my credit card and everything only to get an e-mail today stating my order has been canceled because they are "out of stock." Never mind the fact that they're still shown as "in stock" on the website.... Grrrr....