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Fiorina
September 04, 2013, 18:22
So Im pretty sure I have a 1893 Turkish Mauser. Stamp on the receiver says 1943 from when it was rebarreled for 8mm. My question is, does anybody have one of these that they shoot? What kind of ammo do you use? Ive read conflicting reports about the pressure being too high in milsurp ammo for this rifle.

308/223shooter
September 04, 2013, 18:29
'93 would be a small ring, and would be OK to shoot as long as you decrease your hand loads. Shooting commercial or later MilSurp may be hazardous.

Fiorina
September 04, 2013, 18:38
Hmmm, I have never reloaded, have no experience with it. So there isn't any ammo that's safe for it that I could just readily buy?

richbug
September 04, 2013, 19:23
The Turks shot their full power stuff(2950 fps/154gr) in it...

Any US made ammo(Rem, Win Fed) should be fine it it as it is loaded extremely light(30-30 power levels).

I have one I reworked in .243 win, a couple more in 8x57 that I shoot regularly.

Are you sure it is a 1893? All my 1893s are rework dated in the 30's. Does it have the bulge on the front on the receiver to hold the handguard on?

Fiorina
September 04, 2013, 19:45
http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg634/fiorina334/image-24.jpg (http://s1247.photobucket.com/user/fiorina334/media/image-24.jpg.html)

I think it's 1893?

richbug
September 04, 2013, 19:49
No doubt, it is a 93. It must have been lost in one of the deep, dark corners of Turkey, and didn't get sent back to be reworked till later on.

Fiorina
September 04, 2013, 19:58
Ya the 1943 date is kind of late for most pics I saw online. It's a cool rifle though!

coov1
September 04, 2013, 21:16
Just looked at mine, below the Turkish script it is dated 1953.

bouncer50
September 05, 2013, 03:36
If it a 93 action it will only have two locking lugs on the bolt. A 98 action will have three locking lugs. The last one will be by the bolt handle on the bolt. If it a 93 action a lot of them were reheated in the 20s to handle the higher pressure. But myself i do not trust a 93 action with high pressure rounds. Just ask the spanish with their 93 action they converted to 308.:eek:

richbug
September 05, 2013, 05:54
Just ask the spanish with their 93 action they converted to 308.:eek:


German metallurgy, versus Spanish.... Night and day. I have no fear of my Turk 93s, but don't hot rod them(45K psi or so).

STGThndr
September 05, 2013, 11:14
As mentioned above, US-manufactured 8mm- 7.9 Mauser is a lot lower in pressure than foreign made 8mm surplus. Due to fear of blowing up older Mausers back in the day. I got woke up and had my teeth rattled when firing my dad's mauser with surplus instead of US hunting rounds. Sellier and Beliot will do the same, comparatively.
My 93/1945 Turk rifle shoots the heavy ammo just fine. In fact as some may remember the old Turk surplus was considered too hot to fire in FN-49 rifles a decade or so back....

Fiorina
September 05, 2013, 14:55
Thanks for the replys. I'm going to do a trial run with some American made 8mm that my local store has

ExCdnSoldierInTx
September 25, 2013, 14:18
Ok, for us Mauser Noobs.

What's the differences between a 93 Mauser and a 98?

Stupid question, I know, but I gotta ask.

There's quite a few 93s for sale locally, but no 98s.

Gazz
September 26, 2013, 06:30
93 Mauser;

Small ring
Cock on closing
No third "safety" lug on the bolt
No real gas venting (in the event of a punctured primer)

98 Mauser;

Large ring (for the most part - the Mexican Mausers are 98's but do have a small ring receiver)
Cocks on opening
Third "safety" lug on the bolt
Gas venting/shielding away from your face in the event of a punctured primer

There may be some other differences as well that I can't think of.

johnnycobra
September 26, 2013, 13:16
Also, don't forget the 1895 Mauser, pretty much like an 1893 without the "flat bottom" on the bolt face and with the addition of a "safety lug" behind the bolt handle.

I like the small rings a lot, my first bolt action was a spanish mauser rebarrelled commercially with a 308 bbl. Shot it until the bolt got REALLY loose. Thankfully not a few shots beyond that!