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Andy the Aussie
August 25, 2013, 04:00
.... digging at the back of the safe and I found this old clunker.... ugly as sin and rode hard, but just ooooozing character..... :)

http://i997.photobucket.com/albums/af98/Andy_the_Aussie/Guns/19031_zps6159b1f4.jpg (http://s997.photobucket.com/user/Andy_the_Aussie/media/Guns/19031_zps6159b1f4.jpg.html)

http://i997.photobucket.com/albums/af98/Andy_the_Aussie/Guns/19033_zps4a5a9971.jpg (http://s997.photobucket.com/user/Andy_the_Aussie/media/Guns/19033_zps4a5a9971.jpg.html)

enbloc8
August 25, 2013, 05:48
:uhoh: :uhoh: :uhoh:

MY FIRST LOVE!!!! :bow:

Is it in the safe-to-shoot range? '03s in this condition go for a pretty good buck these days.

RG Coburn
August 25, 2013, 07:01
Looks like a fairly nice 03 to me. Are there "bubbas" in Austrailia?

flopshot
August 25, 2013, 07:48
love my old bolt war horses but the cost of '06 has kept the '03 and '17 in the back of the safe with the M1. it's a shame to see how many of these have been "sporterized".

ismith
August 25, 2013, 10:04
Is it a Rock Island? Does it have a stimpled butt plate and Hatcher hole?

ramiller
August 25, 2013, 10:23
love my old bolt war horses but the cost of '06 has kept the '03 and '17 in the back of the safe with the M1. it's a shame to see how many of these have been "sporterized".

Join the CMP and save on ammunition for the 06 current price .50 plus shipping.

Andy the Aussie
August 25, 2013, 18:02
Is it a Rock Island? Does it have a stimpled butt plate and Hatcher hole? .... it is a RI but not sure what the other two are ??? I recall the butt plate as smooth but don't hold me to that now... I just put it back in the safe after the pics. Not sure what the safe to shoot serial number range is..... but I did put over 100 rounds down range with it just after I got it home (that was 1983 though.... ;) ). All the ammo was Aussie MF headstamp and had no issues (yes we did also make 30/06 here as the 1919 served right up till the 2000s in the turrets (yes turrets) on our M113s).

Plenty of Bubbas out here but they mostly "customise" SMLEs or Swedish Mausers... ;)

I must admit that the 03 is a fine handling rifle..... yes indeed...!!!

ismith
August 25, 2013, 23:25
According to my serial number books your rifle is likely was a USMC rifle. It looks like one too. What's the barrel date/ maker? It's also a "high number", and perfectly safe to shoot.

ismith
August 25, 2013, 23:32
Here's a picture of a Hatcher hole.
http://i739.photobucket.com/albums/xx32/madisonvalleywapiti/021-9.jpg (http://s739.photobucket.com/user/madisonvalleywapiti/media/021-9.jpg.html)

ismith
August 25, 2013, 23:37
Here's my former USMC 1903, a Rock Island just a bit newer than yours. A 9 inch steel plate at 300 yards is a fairly easy kill.
http://i739.photobucket.com/albums/xx32/madisonvalleywapiti/008-14.jpg (http://s739.photobucket.com/user/madisonvalleywapiti/media/008-14.jpg.html)

Andy the Aussie
August 25, 2013, 23:47
When next I work my way to the back of the safe I will take a closer look at it ... :D

ismith
August 26, 2013, 00:09
It also looks like you have a USMC sight set up. Get a picture of the rear sight leaf and the front sight and Ill be able to tell for sure. Most of the Marine rifles that made it back to the states had the USMC sights replaced for some reason. I have the hood but not the leaf insert or front blade.
http://i739.photobucket.com/albums/xx32/madisonvalleywapiti/009-15.jpg (http://s739.photobucket.com/user/madisonvalleywapiti/media/009-15.jpg.html)

CWizard
August 27, 2013, 21:41
I have one in there somewhere also.

FUUN063
August 28, 2013, 10:26
Me, too, 'cept mine has the Pederson cutout.

Leland
:fal:

kwilal
August 28, 2013, 15:26
Some 1903 info on low-numbered receivers some may find useful:
Ken
http://m1903.com/03rcvrfail/

Andy the Aussie
August 29, 2013, 00:55
Thanks mate, can't see it in the pic but this one is a Rock Island so (thankfully) it is said not to be an issue for me.. :D

EonDresari
August 29, 2013, 09:37
It's a real beauty Andy! That's one of the nicest ones I've ever seen! I've been on the fence about whether to put the $$ into getting a real quality example and you just SHOVED me off and into a ditch :cry:

Ahh well.... Geronimo! :biggrin:

enbloc8
August 29, 2013, 23:11
.... it is a RI but not sure what the other two are ???

Those are two "tells" for a Marine '03. Since replacing rifles was pretty low on the Navy's priority list, the Marines determined that the way to keep their rifles safe was to control tightly the variables that seemed to add up to an exploding '03, per post-WW1 studies (covered in Hatcher's Notebook). They took their low-number '03s and drilled the "Hatcher Hole" in the left side of the receiver ring (to give a more reliable means of gas venting than that quasi-ornamental hole on the right side), kept the headspace tight by rebarreling with new barrels (and, I imagine, new bolts that were either double-heat-treated or nickel-steel), and issued them with the injunction that they were NOT to be used to fire rifle grenades (to keep the old casehardened receivers from shattering). The biggest culprit among the explosions seemed to be Great War-vintage ammo from National Brass & Copper Tube, which I believe was culled en masse from ammo stocks once it was identified as of poor quality.

As to the buttplates, the wartime Marines (who were used to the checkered prewar and postwar-production buttplates) improvised checkering by "stippling" them with a center punch or cold chisel, so they'd stay put on the shoulder.

All the ammo was Aussie MF headstamp and had no issues (yes we did also make 30/06 here as the 1919 served right up till the 2000s in the turrets (yes turrets) on our M113s).


Why didn't any of that make it over here with the F4 and L2A2??? :cry: