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Airacuda
February 05, 2013, 17:12
I mentioned in another post I picked up a 556R mostly for my brother.Well he doesn't care for the trigger and I'm sweet on it so I kept it. I have 400+ rounds through it with 6 different ammo types and every Ak mag I can borrow works perfect.Not one FTF or malfunction of any kind.
Most 7.62x39 ammo seems to be about the same coming in at 2285 average in the Sig.
I guess Sig came up with this due to export sales to countries who have tons of 7.62 lying around. Whatever reason I'm glad they did.Also glad they went back and fixed all the problems the 1st gens had.
Sweet Machine!

WWM
February 05, 2013, 21:52
Just got mine a few weeks ago. Weather's has been bad every Sunday which is my only partial day off. Fit, finish, and feel are great, can't wait to give her a test run. Glad to hear it runs good on surplus.

LKY_13
February 06, 2013, 14:38
Want one of these so darn bad to go with my 551. Just LOVE Sigs!!

Maybe I should trade my extra FAL for one.

WWM
February 06, 2013, 20:26
Want one of these so darn bad to go with my 551. Just LOVE Sigs!!

Maybe I should trade my extra FAL for one.

I liked my 551 so much I bought a 2nd one. Next on my list is a 716 in ODG.

Tim Dreas
February 07, 2013, 02:55
I bought my 550 24 or 25 years ago for $2000. It's nearly as heavy as the FAL but it's been great rifle.

paulb2112
February 07, 2013, 12:11
hey max,
what the hell is a 556r?

EPC WN
February 07, 2013, 12:21
hey max,
what the hell is a 556r?

A sig model 556 that takes Russian 7.62 and uses Ak mags.

cavman 69
February 10, 2013, 12:23
i've been wanting one a 556R. i should have grabbed one while they were under $1100. guess i'll have to wait for the panic to get over with, if it does.

Delta-3
February 11, 2013, 15:19
I picked up my Gen 2 556R last fall & I wouldn't sell it for 5X what I paid for it!

Mauser_556
February 12, 2013, 13:10
hey max,
what the hell is a 556r?

One of these.

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8452/8030804185_9684a56ab7_b.jpg

Tim Dreas
February 15, 2013, 13:34
What's the serial number range of the 556R's that don't have the problems the early ones have?

Tailback
February 16, 2013, 19:41
The 556r is VERY tempting to me. I have too many little purchases lined up in the near future, but once those are taken care of and the current insanity is over (hopefully with no ban in place), that will be on the list.

Delta-3
February 17, 2013, 11:23
What's the serial number range of the 556R's that don't have the problems the early ones have?

I don't know what serial #'s differentiate between the Gen 1's & Gen 2's but I know they started in the summer of 2012. If you look at the date on the box, that should tell you that it's a Gen 2.
Mine is dated August 30 2012 & it's Gen 2.

newuser
February 18, 2013, 02:35
I was looking very closely at these in 2011. they were selling at just under $1000 then. I read alot about minor QC problems owners were having : all of it relativley minor stuff. The deciding factor in not getting one was that Russian steel core ammo would not work reliably, Sig was recommending brass comercial ammo. Has this changed?

SWOHFAL
February 18, 2013, 03:06
I was looking very closely at these in 2011. they were selling at just under $1000 then. I read alot about minor QC problems owners were having : all of it relativley minor stuff. The deciding factor in not getting one was that Russian steel core ammo would not work reliably, Sig was recommending brass comercial ammo. Has this changed?

I don't think I've ever even seen brass 7.62 x 39.

LYCAN
February 18, 2013, 05:16
I don't think I've ever even seen brass 7.62 x 39.

Really, or are you just making a funny?

Airacuda
February 18, 2013, 10:41
I just picked up some Privi Partisan or something to that effect in brass case soft point. Just wanted to try it out. Rounds look really short in the mag.

DC
February 18, 2013, 12:04
I was looking very closely at these in 2011. they were selling at just under $1000 then. I read alot about minor QC problems owners were having : all of it relativley minor stuff. The deciding factor in not getting one was that Russian steel core ammo would not work reliably, Sig was recommending brass comercial ammo. Has this changed?

yes. If you want to learn about these, you need to go to www.warriortalk.com. Saurez is the only guy getting any of them from Sig anyway and he has a wait list of a few hundred people.

Delta-3
February 18, 2013, 12:44
The Gen 2's will eat anything you put in them, brass or steel. IIRC I think I read that the Gen 2's started in the 28C serial # range if that helps at all. (can't say positivily though)

SWOHFAL
February 18, 2013, 14:24
Really, or are you just making a funny?

Never seen any in person - all the milsurp stuff is steel cased, as is anything produced in former commbloc countries for commercial sale. I know I've seen listings from the major US manufacturers that indicate brass cases. Additionally, don't US made rounds have soft primers that can lead to slamfires in the SKS?

Fn/form
February 18, 2013, 19:26
Shot a buddy's 556R just yesterday. Loooong initial trigger stroke. I stopped to dry fire a few times before loading it again. I agree that it is a smooth trigger. I didn't take a look at the trigger group, but it felt more "straight back" movement than an AR.

Didn't like the mag release--maybe an extended one would be better. Or maybe it was the Tapco mags.

Had much better ergonomics and without the usual klack-slap of an AK. The safety would take some getting used to. It shot well at 100yds. We'll have to scope it soon.

Tim Dreas
February 19, 2013, 12:33
The Gen 2's will eat anything you put in them, brass or steel. IIRC I think I read that the Gen 2's started in the 28C serial # range if that helps at all. (can't say positivily though)

Thanks. I've read of too many issues with the early ones and I don't want get one of those. It's good to see they've gotten them sorted out.

Timber Wolf
February 20, 2013, 09:29
I would not mind having one, but would prefer it in 5.45 which they will proably never make.

Mauser_556
February 23, 2013, 20:15
Y'all check out my review here. Yes, the 556r is a keeper. just wish there were a lot more aftermarket parts for it. Also wish Magpul would come out with an MOE forearm and MIAD grip for it.

http://www.falfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=344803

Airacuda
February 24, 2013, 19:51
600+ rounds now.My only complaint is the trigger over travel. It messed up rapid firing. I modded it to stop immediately after it fires. Works great now.

Sijones
February 25, 2013, 22:06
The story I've heard most often is that from mid June born on dates are good to go. Mine was built in July and it has been flawless. Even works with the Tapco mags (actually came with one). The ergos need some improvement, but there are some nice after market upgrades. Mounted a Spectre DR on mine after putting a Magpul stock and riser on it. Shoots an inch at 50 yards with crap steel cased ammo.
Solid, solid, weapon.

Airacuda
February 26, 2013, 17:51
I added the Manticore arms pistol grip which looks better and allows better reach to the safety. Also let me add that my Brother did the trigger mod for me.It's awesome! basically feels like an AR or my FAL with the speed trigger.
I forgot he reads on here and gave me hell for taking credit for his mod.:bow:

EBRfan
February 26, 2013, 22:29
I have one that is an August 2012 build. It has been flawless, and I really like it. It is wearing a NF 2.5-10-32 right now but I'm planning to put a 7.62x39 BDC ACOG on it. I just hope I can get it low enough.

Delta-3
February 27, 2013, 13:35
I have the TA33R-13 Acog your referring to on my SIG. GET IT! It's a perfect fit for the 556R.

AlaskanMBR
February 28, 2013, 20:52
I have the TA33R-13 Acog your referring to on my SIG. GET IT! It's a perfect fit for the 556R.

I second that. This is with a ADM AD-B2 mount.

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff244/akmbr/IMG526_zps6fa82575.jpg

SWOHFAL
March 01, 2013, 02:25
I second that. This is with a ADM AD-B2 mount.

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff244/akmbr/IMG526_zps6fa82575.jpg

What's the knife and are the iron sights from SIG?

AlaskanMBR
March 01, 2013, 08:16
What's the knife and are the iron sights from SIG?

Yeah, the sights are factory Sig and the knife is a Hisshou.

Walther Rathenau
March 01, 2013, 17:15
It just doesn't look right to me but I'd want one if it did.

Airacuda
March 02, 2013, 15:09
It's hard for me to get rid of something that isn't broke. The original red dot may not be military quality but it does work well. I have removed and replaced it without having to re zero. I was dinging a 10" plate at 200 yds yesterday, the plate was pretty much the same size as my red dot at that range.
Then I fired at a customers 25yd paper target and put 2 in the same hole. So I said,hey let me see what this thing will really do at 100. So I sent 3 three down and WOW! A 1" 3 shot group with Silver Bear hollow points. Sadly,I didn't think to remember that a phone will take a pic these days. So,that's my story and I'm stickin to it!
Also fired 90 rounds thru a Saiga AK rapidly,then repeated the same drill with the Sig. After the fact,the AK was too hot to use the front part of the handguard....rear of it was OK. The Sig plastic guard was not hot at all on any portion of the guard. Just keppin ya informed.:smile:

EPC WN
March 02, 2013, 15:57
This rifle makes a lot of sense now. When bordinary WASR's are fetching in excess of a thousand dollars this girl seems like a steal. It was hard to justify a few years ago but getting one of these even at panic mark up is a better deal. The purists may disagree but as a practical option in the future, she's a winner. I'm eyeballing them for certain...

Delta-3
March 02, 2013, 17:15
It seems to me that this rifle is the next evolution for an "AK". It's more ergonomic than the AK. ( I thought AK's were just fine anyway). It's very accurate even with the cheaper ammo, mounting any optic is a snap. It can be made "mission adaptable" with the forward rail , just like an AR and it seems to be holding it's own in reliabilty just like an AK should. The Swiss have been using it in there 550 series rifle, albeit in 5.56 for years with no detriments.
Obviously I'm as fan. Especially coming from decades of AK worship but if it didn't excell from what the AK offers, I wouldn't have one. Some say it's a cross between an AK & an AR but I think it's more of a cross between an AK & an FAL. Take that fwiw. It has become my "go to" rifle for anything I need a rifle to do within it's parameters.
If you like the 7.62x39 round & thought an AK needed improvement, I think this rifle is it.
I haven't hear or read anything bad about the GEN 2's. It's always positive.

AlaskanMBR
March 02, 2013, 20:01
If they made these in 5.45 I would snap one up in a heartbeat. I don't shoot my 47s anymore since I got this. Still shoot my 74s.

OldLawman
March 09, 2013, 19:52
I have two 556s in .223: a Classic, and a SWAT Patrol.

Like them much more than my two Colt ARs.

AutomaticJerk
March 11, 2013, 00:36
Been wanting one of these for a little while (5.56 or 7.62, or both), but have been putting it off while finishing my FAL. The trigger is user adjustable, though, so there's no reason to pass over these rifles if the factory trigger pull doesn't feel right. Google the armorer's manual, it should be out there somewhere. If you can't find it, I have it on my computer. You'll want to look up section 6.5.2, Pressure point.