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mime
January 09, 2013, 19:09
A LOT of guys have gotten the ax for A LOT less.


http://www.falfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=344039


weg! you need to man up and quit playing favorites.

jimmbob
January 09, 2013, 20:13
Yep, gotta agree. It's sickening how admin. caters to that pathetic individual. Shines a dark light on this whole forum that such rude disgusting talk of one of our recently passed members is allowed.

Shame on gp for his shocking comments and shame on those who have the power to bannish him but do nothing. I think his bannishment should be a lot longer than a temporary slap on the wrist time out. (smiley of disgust):(

rochte
January 09, 2013, 20:51
I will not claim that anyone is "playing favourites" - I have no idea what has been said or done privately.

Beyond that, however, I agree with you.

4x401
January 09, 2013, 21:25
I witnessed a few of Randy & Mark's altercations in the past. Got some laugh's too.

I have never seen or heard of the personal attack's that Mark is refering to though.. If true (and I lean toward Mark's account), he has a lot of reason to despise Randy....

But that said....Just damn Mark!!:sad:

Skilter
January 09, 2013, 21:50
My grandpa was a wise drinker of the scotch, sometimes when you keep walking at night with the stick you get the wisdom from him and sometimes you get the stick. Both are good at times and both are bad at times.

Sometimes when a man (or woman) posts, they are heads down in a bucket of something... we get kicked on the forums. They don't remember, but we do.

I have been told differently to not forgive, but I guess being Irish, and an East Texan belligerent SOB I can understand that maybe things go too far on a given night and need to be reconciled.

I hope that is the case here...

jugrunner
January 09, 2013, 22:20
A LOT of guys have gotten the ax for A LOT less.


http://www.falfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=344039


weg! you need to man up and quit playing favorites.


I totally agree ... !!! ... but still the song comes to mind ...

"Stand by your man " ... !!!

W.E.G.
January 09, 2013, 22:29
Get this.

I don't ban Gunplumber.

Not my problem.
Don't even ask.

BTW, I don't ban DABTL either.

If either of those two get banned, Jen does it.

No exceptions.

Right Side Up
January 09, 2013, 22:44
Guys just put him on ignore.

It's pretty obvious he's crazy. Leave him be.

jimmbob
January 09, 2013, 22:47
I don't ban Gunplumber.



We realise that:wink:

rochte
January 09, 2013, 22:53
We realise that:wink:

yikes, i'm outta here! :eek:

Tibodoe
January 09, 2013, 23:13
His comments are not a reason for banning. They are simply
a clear picture of how he lives his life.

jugrunner
January 09, 2013, 23:51
Get this.

I don't ban Gunplumber.

Not my problem.
Don't even ask.

BTW, I don't ban DABTL either.

If either of those two get banned, Jen does it.

No exceptions.




So, your sayin' that you can ban me but not DABTL or gunplumber ... ???

if this is true I'll never send another dime to this place ... take it to the bank ... !!!

W.E.G.
January 09, 2013, 23:55
So, your sayin' that you can ban me but not DABTL or gunplumber ... ???

if this is true I'll never send another dime to this place ... take it to the bank ... !!!

I can solve that right now.

jimmbob
January 09, 2013, 23:56
I don't ban Gunplumber.


We realise that:wink:

yikes, i'm outta here! :eek:

:eek: I'd better get the hell outta here quick like. IN before the lock:D

maybe I'll hide out in the basement for awhile:angel:

4x401
January 10, 2013, 00:11
maybe I'll hide out in the basement for awhile:angel:

I'll meet ya down there...Maybe we can bump ugly's, or just talk.....:D

tdb59
January 10, 2013, 00:26
I can solve that right now.

Mods laying down threats ?

Or just attempting to fulfill requests ?

rochte
January 10, 2013, 00:45
Mods laying down threats ?

Or just attempting to fulfill requests ?

Note the six-letter word beneath Jugrunner's name....

fry
January 10, 2013, 00:50
i found gunplumbers disparaging remarks to be in very poor taste.
low class indeed.

Right Side Up
January 10, 2013, 00:50
Is there more to the story on jugrunner? Did he get banned for saying he would not be a contributor after his membership runs out?

tdb59
January 10, 2013, 00:50
Note the six-letter word beneath Jugrunner's name....

POWER TRIP !


http://images.fineartamerica.com/images-medium-large/horse-manure-bruce-ritchie.jpg

L1A1rocker
January 10, 2013, 01:02
Note the six-letter word beneath Jugrunner's name....

Oh man, this is very upsetting. This thread started with fail and has gone downhill from there.

rochte
January 10, 2013, 01:03
POWER TRIP !

I think it was more a matter of frustration.

jimmbob
January 10, 2013, 01:30
Note the six-letter word beneath Jugrunner's name....

That's just horseshit right there:mad: The peasant gets banned for civily voicing an opinion and the ignorant bastard gets away with despicable behavior.

Sad day for the files :(

Right Side Up
January 10, 2013, 02:53
I can solve that right now.


Now that you've handled that, why don'cha go clean up the comments GP made in this thread and unlock it?

It was a decent thread among Fal Files members. Only one guy mucked it up.


Edit: Ooops forgot the thread link, not that anything will get done about it...... http://www.falfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=344039

ALL FAL
January 10, 2013, 02:57
That's just horseshit right there:mad: The peasant gets banned for civily voicing an opinion and the ignorant bastard gets away with despicable behavior.

Sad day for the files :(

I agree completely.

Right Side Up
January 10, 2013, 03:09
Pots, kettles, and all that kind of stuff. :eek:

Someone broke a violin string. :D


http://www.falfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=214049&highlight=high+road+ban&page=2

Mebsuta
January 10, 2013, 07:39
I can solve that right now.

Sad.

rochte
January 10, 2013, 07:41
Now that you've handled that, why don'cha go clean up the comments GP made in this thread and unlock it?

It was a decent thread among Fal Files members. Only one guy mucked it up.


Edit: Ooops forgot the thread link, not that anything will get done about it...... http://www.falfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=344039

On the other hand, perhaps GP was handed a nice long length of rope and managed to use it quite effectively on himself... I rather think the comments should stay right where they are - for posterity.

armarsh
January 10, 2013, 08:02
I can solve that right now.

The beatings shall continue until morale improves.

W.E.G.
January 10, 2013, 08:06
jugrunner banned for repeated gunplumber baiting

I warned him.

...and I warned him again

...and he kept on with it

The bannings will continue until it stops.

I'm not going to "go clean up" a goddam thing.
I'm not your fugking french maid.
I'm the guy who trims trees for the power company, and then walks across your living room carpet with muddy boots.

Sig220
January 10, 2013, 08:30
jugrunner banned for repeated gunplumber baiting

I warned him.

...and I warned him again

...and he kept on with it

The bannings will continue until it stops.

I'm not going to "go clean up" a goddam thing.
I'm not your fugking french maid.
I'm the guy who trims trees for the power company, and then walks across your living room carpet with muddy boots.

And that folks is how the asylum is ran..........

starbuck
January 10, 2013, 08:43
for all its faults, I'm glad the files is run the way it is. Other boards are full of too much mod bullshit. You have to be a real ass to be banned here and even then its likely no one will give a shit.

J. Armstrong
January 10, 2013, 09:30
for all its faults, I'm glad the files is run the way it is. Other boards are full of too much mod bullshit. You have to be a real ass to be banned here and even then its likely no one will give a shit.

Thank you :beer:

I would say that GPs posts in that thread are indeed in bad taste, but not cause for banning. Like most things in life, his undiluted, from the hip style has both pluses and minuses. I thought this was one of his minuses.

Don't know the full story behind Jugs - he's always been a good bro, and I hate to see this happen, but I don't know the details so I don't feel qualified to pass judgement.

shortround
January 10, 2013, 11:34
If you don't like what GP posts, put him on ignore. Heck, I've got half ya'll on ignore already anyways. Cuts down on the time I have to spend on my Ipad on the can. Battery lasts twice as long.

Right Side Up
January 10, 2013, 13:14
Quote:
Originally Posted by jugrunner
So, your sayin' that you can ban me but not DABTL or gunplumber ... ???

if this is true I'll never send another dime to this place ... take it to the bank ... !!!



WEG: I can solve that right now.




Help me here Gary....where's any GP trolling in jugrunners post? The guy made a damn good point.

And I'll say this...if GP gets trolled it's because he's repeatedly asked for it.

Maybe I won't put any more money into this place either.

What are you going to do about that?

W.E.G.
January 10, 2013, 13:51
Troll gunplumber in posts that have nothing to do with gunplumber, and after you have been warned, and find out.

Right Side Up
January 10, 2013, 14:34
Oh I'm so scared.

W.E.G.
January 10, 2013, 14:52
I knew you would be.

starbuck
January 10, 2013, 15:26
I can easily piss 10'. Maybe further when I first wake up.

preston1026
January 10, 2013, 15:48
jugrunner banned for repeated gunplumber baiting

I warned him.

...and I warned him again

...and he kept on with it

The bannings will continue until it stops.

I'm not going to "go clean up" a goddam thing.
I'm not your fugking french maid.
I'm the guy who trims trees for the power company, and then walks across your living room carpet with muddy boots.

It is the context of what's being said. Saying saying that someone should die painfully or slowly shouldn't be shown here. If that's the way you feel then that's your opinion. If someone were to talk about Mark's family who passed away that they died slowly that should be addressed.

Also changing the letters of a curse word doesn't change anything.
fugking, F***, gehy etc is the same as writing the real thing to me. The two should not but held separate. Set the bar high and there wouldn't be a grey area that people try to play in.

W.E.G.
January 10, 2013, 16:03
Set the bar high

The High Road is over there >>>>>>

Ignore direct-warnings from moderators and administrators here, and you'll very soon be looking for another sandbox.

BTW,... do you know who asked for the word **** to be censored here?

preston1026
January 10, 2013, 16:28
BTW,... do you know who asked for the word **** to be censored here?

No

jimmbob
January 10, 2013, 16:36
Set the bar high and there wouldn't be a grey area that people try to play in.

Or maybe at least set the bar at the same height for everyone:wink:

W.E.G.
January 10, 2013, 16:51
Y'all have fun with this thread.

I've said all I came here to say.

rochte
January 10, 2013, 17:09
Or maybe at least set the bar at the same height for everyone:wink:

Perhaps I'm mistaken, but I believe what WEG was trying to say throughout the dialogue with Jug was that he lacked the ability or permission to ban certain individuals. If that is a correct interpretation, then I believe he may have been saying it *too* succinctly for some to hear. The resulting misunderstanding led to a complete breakdown in communication and, ultimately, to Jug's banning.

Gary, could you tell us if my understanding is correct?


P.S., The THR reference is ironic, since what happened last night very much reminded me of how I was banned on that "kinder, gentler" site. Not only that, but I had gone there after following a link that WEG had posted. It was a thread where the mod had brought out the ban-hammer over PEOPLE TYPING IN UPPER-CASE LETTERS. He "fixed" my problem, too. Just sayin'....

meltblown
January 10, 2013, 17:44
The High Road is over there >>>>>>

Ignore direct-warnings from moderators and administrators here, and you'll very soon be looking for another sandbox.

BTW,... do you know who asked for the word **** to be censored here?

Can we use the N word when speaking of our Komrade from Kenya? I think he is Nefarious...there i said it

Sig220
January 10, 2013, 19:28
Or maybe at least set the bar at the same height for everyone:wink:

You would think that would be rule #1.

But I guess EGG's last post in this thread about explains it.....apparently because he can't explain it........oh well.......same as it ever was. :rolleyes:

mime
January 10, 2013, 21:36
jugrunner banned for repeated gunplumber baiting

I warned him.

...and I warned him again

...and he kept on with it

The bannings will continue until it stops.

I'm not going to "go clean up" a goddam thing.
I'm not your fugking french maid.
I'm the guy who trims trees for the power company, and then walks across your living room carpet with muddy boots.



Wrong! You're the "Douche Lord" . You are dead wrong for what you're doing here. Twist it however you wish. We all know what you're about.

mime
January 10, 2013, 21:39
Troll gunplumber in posts that have nothing to do with gunplumber, and after you have been warned, and find out.

This thread has everything to do with him dipshit!

Spktyr
January 10, 2013, 21:45
Wrong! You're the "Douche Lord" . You are dead wrong for what you're doing here. Twist it however you wish. We all know what you're about.

This thread has everything to do with him dipshit!

I'm thinking that the above are likely to net the banhammer...

mime
January 10, 2013, 21:49
I'm thinking that the above are likely to net the banhammer...



So the **** what. You can't go through life scared my friend.

rochte
January 10, 2013, 21:49
For the record, I think that the banning of Jugrunner was unfair and I hope that it is reversed.

Jaxxas
January 10, 2013, 22:30
Y'all care a **** of a lot more about Gunplumber than Giillie ever did!

Spktyr
January 10, 2013, 23:25
So the **** what. You can't go through life scared my friend.

Oh, I wasn't scared. I was just wanting to watch when it came down.

Bull915
January 11, 2013, 08:15
So the guys that starts the dust-up goes quiet and everybody that complains about what he said gets banned? :confused:

I don't have a horse in this race, just not the kind of behavior I've seen from this group before (members OR mods). :rolleyes:

tywest
January 11, 2013, 08:57
you know..........im new here comparitively. heres some observations about what yall have been discussing.

a thread started to comemerate the passing of a fellow fal enthusiast.
thread all good and then posting of memories start
seems most postings have to deal with gillie poking at gp
everyone states joy from gillie poking at gp
gp had enough and since everyones voicing opinions he voices his

yall basically turned the thread towards that, God rest the mans soul :angel:if possible but was his poking at gp all yall enjoyed about his time here?

Im totally 3rd party and know niether but thats just my opinion. I know yall have been here longer and maybe have back story but everyone seems to complain about someones banning while forgetting that they turned a thread about someones passing into a revelry of poking at another member. which seems to be what WEG alluded to.

everyone talks about "knowing how GP is" and yet yall elected to talk about him in a thread about someones passing......:eek:

im sure you will hate me now as well because my opinion and observation differs, but im from the outside looking in fellas, but im here because im a FAL enthusiast not a cheeleader looking for prom queen votes. :fal: Ive greatly enjoyed this site regardless of whats going on personally between you gents

JohnnyReb
January 11, 2013, 09:15
:whiskey::beer::whiskey::beer::whiskey::beer:

for the brothers who aren't here ...

jimmbob
January 11, 2013, 09:37
:whiskey::beer::whiskey::beer::whiskey::beer:

for the brothers who aren't here ...

Yes Sir:bow:

If there's a heaven, our gillman is up there looking down just smilin' away.

Buddy Lee
January 11, 2013, 14:04
For all the angels and saints sake I just hope God gave him a keyboard without a period (.) on it.

Buddy Lee

NHBandit
January 11, 2013, 14:39
Been off doing "real stuff" for a week or 2 & all hell breaks loose. WTF.. Guess I have mixed feelings about all this and since I do enjoy popping in now & then I will keep the largest part of my opinion to myself. Will simply say that while it really really sucks that Juggsy & mime got the boot I do have to commend WEG for FINALLY coming out and admitting that certain members here possess a "get out of jail free" card and are free to do any damn thing they please with no fear of repercusssions. It explains ALOT.

festus
January 11, 2013, 14:52
:whiskey::beer::whiskey::beer::whiskey::beer:

for the brothers who aren't here ...

Ghileee helped me out right before he got banned with some questions about a rock collection I inherited. He had a lot of knowledge iof rock hunting and polishing semi precious gemstones. I liked the dude.

Dirt1042
January 11, 2013, 15:16
a thread started to comemerate the passing of a fellow fal enthusiast.
thread all good and then posting of memories start
seems most postings have to deal with gillie poking at gp
everyone states joy from gillie poking at gp
gp had enough and since everyones voicing opinions he voices his


I don't think you have worry about people hating you here. You summed it up pretty good.:beer:

tdb59
January 11, 2013, 15:51
Do not imagine, comrades, that leadership is a pleasure. On the contrary, it is a deep and heavy responsibility. No one believes more firmly than Comrade Napoleon that all animals are equal. He would be only too happy to let you make your decisions for yourselves. But sometimes you might make the wrong decisions, comrades, and then where should we be?

ALL FAL
January 11, 2013, 16:26
GP will not be banned because most of his Biz is thru the files, he is well connected and bottom line a fine gentleman to do biz with from what I have seen.

Personally He rubs me the wrong way but that is my problem, maybe some other form of warning as Banning is not going to fly?:shades:

RG Coburn
January 11, 2013, 16:32
If you don't want Gunplumber to bite you,don't poke him with sticks...

J. Armstrong
January 11, 2013, 16:40
you know..........im new here comparitively. heres some observations about what yall have been discussing.

a thread started to comemerate the passing of a fellow fal enthusiast.
thread all good and then posting of memories start
seems most postings have to deal with gillie poking at gp
everyone states joy from gillie poking at gp
gp had enough and since everyones voicing opinions he voices his

yall basically turned the thread towards that, God rest the mans soul :angel:if possible but was his poking at gp all yall enjoyed about his time here?

Im totally 3rd party and know niether but thats just my opinion. I know yall have been here longer and maybe have back story but everyone seems to complain about someones banning while forgetting that they turned a thread about someones passing into a revelry of poking at another member. which seems to be what WEG alluded to.

everyone talks about "knowing how GP is" and yet yall elected to talk about him in a thread about someones passing......:eek:

im sure you will hate me now as well because my opinion and observation differs, but im from the outside looking in fellas, but im here because im a FAL enthusiast not a cheeleader looking for prom queen votes. :fal: Ive greatly enjoyed this site regardless of whats going on personally between you gents

Good observation.

You have to understand, about once a year the collected assemblage here has to have some sort of mass hysteria ( well, maybe not so massive, but you get the point ). Half a dozen or so folks go over the deep end, everyone bitches up a storm complaining about the powers that be and some sort of cosmic conspiracy. Everybody wants everybody else banned, or burned in effigy or some such. Tempests in teapots every time. After awhile it all goes back to normal, Gets pretty predictable :rolleyes::rolleyes:

rochte
January 11, 2013, 18:34
Been off doing "real stuff" for a week or 2 & all hell breaks loose. WTF.. Guess I have mixed feelings about all this and since I do enjoy popping in now & then I will keep the largest part of my opinion to myself. Will simply say that while it really really sucks that Juggsy & mime got the boot I do have to commend WEG for FINALLY coming out and admitting that certain members here possess a "get out of jail free" card and are free to do any damn thing they please with no fear of repercusssions. It explains ALOT.

Yes, exactly!

Skilter
January 11, 2013, 18:49
total jackassery...

Blaster
January 11, 2013, 20:40
And that folks is how the asylum is ran..........

You are right Siggy!:bow:

In the old days, this particular thread would have quickly wound up down in the Dumping Brass dungeon.:biggrin:

Now I gotta go pop a large skillet of popcorn in some fresh bacon grease.

Sig220
January 11, 2013, 21:35
You are right Siggy!:bow:

In the old days, this particular thread would have quickly wound up down in the Dumping Brass dungeon.:biggrin:

Now I gotta go pop a large skillet of popcorn in some fresh bacon grease.



Good to see ya, Blaster. Hope the winter bids you well.....cold enough, but not too cold!!! :)

Hollis Wood
January 12, 2013, 09:54
If the deceased sent GP messages containing anything remotely like what he says they did, then I don't blame him a bit for how he feels. Nor voicing it.

brunop
January 12, 2013, 17:16
I don't blame him, either - which is not to say I support it. A person doesn't have to respond to every injury, perceived or real.

I think W.E.G. has nailed it: 1) whether in poor taste or not, GP doesn't deserve a banning, and 2) IF jugrunner continued to hammer GP after Gary told him to lay off, a temp ban is in order. Maybe jugrunner was willing to say it anyway; sometimes a guy has to say what he has to say and take the consequences.

I don't know why people are calling GP's "non-ban" as a case of playing "favorites". He said that ggiilliiee said some very inappropriate stuff about his family. That, my friends, is the banning offense. That, for those who don't know better or can't remember, is how the FAL Files used to be. A guy getting angry or hurt and stating that he's glad a guy is gone is NOT a banning offense - even if the "Impropriety" meter is off the chart to the low end...

J. Armstrong
January 12, 2013, 18:02
I don't blame him, either - which is not to say I support it. A person doesn't have to respond to every injury, perceived or real.

I think W.E.G. has nailed it: 1) whether in poor taste or not, GP doesn't deserve a banning, and 2) IF jugrunner continued to hammer GP after Gary told him to lay off, a temp ban is in order. Maybe jugrunner was willing to say it anyway; sometimes a guy has to say what he has to say and take the consequences.

I don't know why people are calling GP's "non-ban" as a case of playing "favorites". He said that ggiilliiee said some very inappropriate stuff about his family. That, my friends, is the banning offense. That, for those who don't know better or can't remember, is how the FAL Files used to be. A guy getting angry or hurt and stating that he's glad a guy is gone is NOT a banning offense - even if the "Impropriety" meter is off the chart to the low end...

Well said :beer:

Arby
January 12, 2013, 22:45
FWIW and just for the record, Mark has been banned before by Jen:

http://www.falfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=329209

He is not "ban proof". He is apparently subject to the same rules as the rest of us.

preston1026
January 13, 2013, 00:40
It's pretty pathetic banning is even necessary, everyone on here is a grown man. We all come here to discuss firearms and or the related. If things stayed that way there wouldn't be any issue. I don't envy the policing mods/admins have to do.

Now lets talk about some FAL's!!!

Tibodoe
January 13, 2013, 02:26
It's pretty pathetic banning is even necessary, everyone on here is a grown man. We all come here to discuss firearms and or the related. If things stayed that way there wouldn't be any issue. I don't envy the policing mods/admins have to do.

Now lets talk about some FAL's!!!

I agree wholeheartedly!

jimmbob
January 13, 2013, 03:34
FWIW and just for the record, Mark has been banned before by Jen:

http://www.falfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=329209

He is not "ban proof". He is apparently subject to the same rules as the rest of us.

Same rules as the rest of us - riggghhhttt.

Oh my sweet jesus:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl: I fogged up my spectacles from laughing so hard when reading this link. He's pretty much the teflon ass till he messes with Larry Vickers. Says a lot, too funny:beer: gotta love it!

rochte
January 13, 2013, 10:06
Why should civility be optional just because one is posting on the Internet instead of conversing in person? It has nothing to do with being a "grown man", though it may be related to maturity.

It's pretty pathetic banning is even necessary, everyone on here is a grown man. We all come here to discuss firearms and or the related. If things stayed that way there wouldn't be any issue. I don't envy the policing mods/admins have to do.

Now lets talk about some FAL's!!!

NHBandit
January 13, 2013, 11:19
FWIW and just for the record, Mark has been banned before by Jen:

http://www.falfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=329209

He is not "ban proof". He is apparently subject to the same rules as the rest of us. That comment damn near made coffee shoot outta my nose.. I remember that well. Jen made a comment that she had spoken to GP and that he "understood".. Name ONE other person who has ever been temp banned who got a phone call or an email from Jen to discuss it ? If you don't believe the man gets special treatment you have blinders on. Just sayin. :beer:

KEMOSABE
January 13, 2013, 11:34
So the GP gets a free ride to try and disgrace a good man that passed away too early? That's all F'ed up. I remember a little story some years ago about a duck hunter, that's when GP made himself out to be a fraud and a liar. If that's baiting, ban me, just have the balls to do it for life.

G3isMe
January 13, 2013, 13:00
That comment damn near made coffee shoot outta my nose.. I remember that well. Jen made a comment that she had spoken to GP and that he "understood".. Name ONE other person who has ever been temp banned who got a phone call or an email from Jen to discuss it ? If you don't believe the man gets special treatment you have blinders on. Just sayin. :beer:

+1 :bow:

G3isMe
January 13, 2013, 13:03
So the GP gets a free ride to try and disgrace a good man that passed away too early? That's all F'ed up. I remember a little story some years ago about a duck hunter, that's when GP made himself out to be a fraud and a liar. If that's baiting, ban me, just have the balls to do it for life.

.

Ohhh now you did it, now you really did it..............

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQt7mVZfhz5WitG00UkoOGE920ASe1rt LIlopXPtrHn5ws4eTE

.

jimmbob
January 13, 2013, 13:36
So the GP gets a free ride to try and disgrace a good man that passed away too early? That's all F'ed up. I remember a little story some years ago about a duck hunter, that's when GP made himself out to be a fraud and a liar. If that's baiting, ban me, just have the balls to do it for life.

"the duck hunter" , nice title - now ya got my interest up, gotta link?

brunop
January 13, 2013, 16:06
So the GP gets a free ride to try and disgrace a good man that passed away too early? That's all F'ed up...

1) He stated that ggiilliiee wrote about his daughter. Perm ban offense in the old days IIRC

2) He stated that he's glad he's not here. So what?

3) He stated that he hoped it was a painful death.

This is "low class" in every way I think of the phrase. It also seems to point to the fact that ggiilliiee 'got to' GP in a big way, which Mark can't let go of. On the other hand, it isn't a banning offense.

You guys just WANT him banned so badly, that you are confusing banning offenses with poor taste. I'm not telling y'all what to think, I'm just pointing out that the board isn't going to ban him for poor taste. Just like the board didn't ban ggiilliiee for sending Mark really poor-taste PMs.

Get it? It. Is. The. Same. Not perfect, just roughly equal.

J. Armstrong
January 13, 2013, 16:34
If lack of diplomacy or poor taste were banning offenses, half the peeps bitchin' about Mark would be gone too, at one point or another. Prolly me, too, for that matter.

I knew we were due for another FAL Files Tempest in a Teapot. Yawner, dudes Y'all starting to sound like a buncha prissy liberal beeyotches wit yer panties and feelings all tied up in a knot and hurtin' yer sphincters ;):devil: Gonna give yerselves coronaries and the only people left here will be boring folks like me.

harleyrider
January 13, 2013, 16:42
Didn't know the man, but sorry to hear that Randy died at such a young age. I've enjoyed reading through his posts with much amusement.

And all these threads about the fallout from his passing just reinforce that the reason some folks are targets for, as it's termed, "baiting", is that they let it (maybe even encourage it to) happen. If they would occasionally just ignore a little shit being blown in their direction instead of sticking their face into the wind to look for more (i.e., have the last word), then most of the tsunami here would be but a ripple. And good threads would not be locked, members would not be banned, and moderators' actions would not be called into question. Kumbaya.

For the record, I felt Gunplumber's comments were in poor taste, and about what I would have expected from him. Ban worthy? Not for me to judge; I don't run this place. I will say though, that whenever shit is hitting the fan around here, it appears that Mr. Graham is usually kneedeep in the firefight.

HR

yellowhand
January 13, 2013, 16:49
I'm new to FF, own 5 FALs, got a new one being built by GP.
The talk of banning anyone for anything on a major firearms forum at a time when it seems the whole of the political world is wanting to ban every single FAL held by the honest people here is just strange to me.
We protect the 2nd, what about the first?
And hello to everyone, FNG here from AZ.

J. Armstrong
January 13, 2013, 16:56
Man, you got cojones starting out yer tenure in a thread like this :biggrin:

Good on ya, +1, and welcome aboard the insanity :beer:

yellowhand
January 13, 2013, 17:06
Lack of fear and stupidity go hand in hand my mama told me once :bigangel:
or G-d protects fools or drunks, can't remember which! :devil:

crawlinjeep
January 13, 2013, 20:30
gillie talked bad about GPs daughter? And you think what GP said about him was low?

Sweet Baby Jesus.

Sig220
January 13, 2013, 21:23
gillie talked bad about GPs daughter? And you think what GP said about him was low?

Sweet Baby Jesus.

Remember the old adage, "Dead men, can tell no tales."

Well, a dead man cannot dispute what anyone says about them. There are plenty of "forked tongue" speakers on this board to go around.

Some post just go to show character or a lack of it.

Bug Tussell
January 13, 2013, 22:05
I belong over at www.arizonashooting.com. I never see GP spouting his particular brand of bullshit over there.

Too close to home I guess.

chrsdwns
January 15, 2013, 01:00
I'm the guy who trims trees for the power company, and then walks across your living room carpet with muddy boots.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I'm cool with that as long as long as i don't find those tracks leading to my bedroom when I come home from work.:rofl:

chrsdwns
January 15, 2013, 01:20
On a more somber note, it seems that the occasionally imitated but never duplicated ggiilliiee is truly no longer with us.

The Obit is dated Oct 20 2012 if anyone should care to pay their respects.

I hope he finds the peace he never seemed to have found in life.

R.I.P. Randy

Right Side Up
January 15, 2013, 02:19
Yes, we knew that. That's why this thread was started: http://http://www.falfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=344039

For some reason, he who shall not be named trolled the thread with some ugly posts (That he was glad he died, and that he hoped it was painful) and got it locked. That's why this thread was started.

Some guys get to go around the Files saying almost anything they want with no reckoning.

I'm sorry to say it, but it'll come to mind when the board needs money again.

bwillcball
January 15, 2013, 13:15
Oh I'm so scared.

Now thats Funny as Hell right there,I dont care who You are!!

tigerfans2
January 15, 2013, 22:21
Wahhhhhh
Wahhhhhhhhhhhhh
Wahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh


And that's all I have to say about that.

Brian in MN
January 15, 2013, 22:29
Thank God the Pres is going to give you guys something more interesting to whine about tomorrow.

Pluribus
January 16, 2013, 01:34
I'm not a GP admirer nor, a ghillie appreciator. I don't do business with GP because I choose not to. I regret to learn of ghillies passing and, am mournful.

But,

I didn't think ghillie was the wecsogin' genius as so, so many here seem to think and, GP is right for one thing certain, ghillie was a fraud. The whole business of the ejector "mod" that he claimed to have come up with and, gets all kind of credit for here, was nothing more than an adaptation of a common gunsmithing practice used on any and all firearms. Since JMB, the Mauser brothers, etc, etc. Model 1911 shooters have been doing it since before MOST of us were an itch in pappys britches.

Rail "mods"? Come on, he didn't invent that either. I've smoothed and polished the receiver on many a different firearm that was no longer in spec (century receivers for example) or, damaged in order to solve feeding problems as needed and, only where affected not a blanket grind and file as accorded to his plagerized and exagerated instructions. I even had an exchange with him about it once, but to no avail and, nothing but a stupid duck, dodge and a he, he, from him. He only plagerized on an existing principle and, to excess.

After that, I just didn't pay attention to him. I sometimes don't pay attention to GP either.
My life has not been altered either positively or, negatively at all. He may indeed and, likely was, a nice guy otherwise. A lot a fun around the campfire and all that. Maybe GP is to but, I'll likely not ever know because, you see, I am an internet nom de geurre, represented by an internet nom de plume the same as ghillie, GP and the rest of us.

But, every one of you who are anti GP because of what he said or, does in general sound like the other anti you know what people that don't like "guns" We don't want/need them because, because, because, because, because, well, I just don't like/see the need/have my opinion about them and, just think SOMETHING should be done about it.

Your reactions are purely emotional.

IMHO and, Goodwill to all

E Pluribus Unum

NHBandit
January 16, 2013, 09:58
All this thread did was expose those guys who think it would be perfectly fine if Mark showed up at the mans funeral wearing a Hawaiian shirt & passing out cigars and those of us who have a bit more class than that. His cheerleaders will continue cheering no matter how low he goes.. He claims stuff was said in PM that most certainly is in bad taste IF it actually happened but did ANY of you witness that exchange ? Did he take a screenshot of the exchange and post it here ? That would certainly have been cause for banning Ggiilliiee for life. If it did happen what was said prior to bring it on ? Only the dead & Mr Graham know what REALLY was said.. Bringing a mans family into a personal clash is dead wrong and despicable behavior but.. Mark has lied about me and several others here in the course of prior pissing contests. When asked directly to back up those lies with proof he changes the subject. How do we KNOW he's not lying now ? He has said nasty hateful things in the past about FWRA as well. One of the most respected members this place has ever had and who brought alot of us old time members many great deals. I guess it's just a sport for him to kick the dead. Guess it's just another way of having the last word. Something he is famous for.. So what has been gained from all this ? Not much. It will be business as usual. There will be no repercussions for this extremely poor behavior and I think most of us knew that would be the outcome. Hell W.E.G. has told us flat out that his hands are tied. Yet everytime Mr Graham gets into an altercation with one of us he calls us trolls and liars and screams for us to be banned. How do we know that's not the real reason Ggiilliiee got the boot. Worry about more important things like what the Pretender in Chief has up his sleeve in his quest to wipe his ass with the Constitution. NOTHING here is ever going to change where Mr Graham is concerned. It is good to know where some of you stand on this issue though. It's been enlightening to say the least.

crcksht
January 16, 2013, 15:32
Gp's posts on the original thread were disgusting and reprehensible. The man has no shame and no class.

His self-description of Arrogant Bastard is quite accurate and well deserved.

fireplug
January 16, 2013, 18:14
GP is no friend of mine due to his totally nasty remarks,however anybody that thinks he will ever get banned for life is crazy(Jen gave him a 2 day ban once,personally I dont know why she bothered ,I guess just to please the rest of the members),GP has friends in high places on this site so dont bother with asking for him to get banned......

JAB75
January 16, 2013, 19:57
Just an observation, but this board is privately owned and if said owner would like to grant a 'pass' to members, then that is the way it is. Gary said as much in his post.

I suggest those who are butt hurt, step away from the keyboard, go do some FAL shooting, take lots of photos, and come back to share the experience.


-JAB75

Jaxxas
January 18, 2013, 22:23
A LOT of guys have gotten the ax for A LOT less.


http://www.falfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=344039


weg! you need to man up and quit playing favorites.


So who the fuk are you? Ya just signed up! Better yet who did you used to be? GP is an self-admitted arrogant bastard, and frankly I don't care if he's banging your dead ancestors, he brings more to the table than he takes away. You(?), not so much!

4x401
January 19, 2013, 00:22
So who the fuk are you? Ya just signed up! Better yet who did you used to be? GP is an self-admitted arrogant bastard, and frankly I don't care if he's banging your dead ancestors, he brings more to the table than he takes away. You(?), not so much!

:rofl::rofl::rofl:


I can't believe this thread is still alive. :rolleyes:

Right Side Up
January 19, 2013, 03:05
Yeah, pretty pathetic. The nuthuggers never stop.

Trolling a memorial thread about a member who ha passed on is akin to the Westboro parishioners protesting at a funeral. Totally beyond the pale of any acceptable human conduct.

But nut nuggets need a god. :rolleyes:

Jaxxas
January 20, 2013, 00:12
Enough already you self-righteous pussies.
Not a one of you can keep up with GP in an intelligent conversation so you take every opportunity to nip at his ankles like distempered chihuahuas calling for him to be banned because he wrote what he had on his mind.

Whenever someone got the better of giggly in a conversation he resorted to ad hominem attacks and insults about their families.
As there was only W.E.G. to keep the peace he got away with a lot of shit.
He once told me he was doing my daughter and my mother was doing Mexicans behind the bar.
I told him I rather doubted it as my mother had been dead for years and my my happily married daughter with two kids had more class than that but she could do whoever she pleased.
That response shut his idiotic rant right up.

I was no fan of the man.
He was often a blatant asshole.

Am I happy he's dead?
No, but I can honestly say I couldn't care less. He was no more or less than any other human and was subject to the faults and foibles we all have in common.
To those of you who considered him a friend:
You have my condolences but I for one won't be lighting candles or saying novenas for him.

Dude, you take me back! I loved doing Mexicans behind the bar! The stories I could tell!

Giilliiee rocked! GP's an ass! Ugly step children but family nonetheless!

Banjo
January 21, 2013, 00:31
Mark has been here, probably before some of you kid's were born.

He has more knowledge/ experience/and insight then most of you will ever have.

I respect his opinion's ,he lives the life, a lot of you just like to think you do.

Grow up people, there are bigger issue's to be dealt with.

brunop
January 22, 2013, 04:08
Shouldn't we all be done with this now?

I think everyone with a dog in this particular hunt has had their say, and lots of others got theirs in, too. Can we please let ggiilliiee RIP?

jugrunner
January 23, 2013, 16:22
It was done before noon yesterday.
Why did you bring it up again?


why don't YOU STFU ... ????????

always got to have the last word huh ... ??? ... like so many around here ... I could name 10 just like you but it makes me laugh too hard ... you're in "good company" ... :rolleyes:

just keep working fool ... I'll enjoy wasting your $$$ ... :p


ETA: You're right brunop ... I'm out ... !!!

brunop
January 23, 2013, 22:13
It was done before noon yesterday.
Why did you bring it up again?

So I should:

a) send out a poll and ask if anyone plans on posting again before I write anything

b) lock it

c) ask that it be done with


Which would you do?

Jaxxas
January 23, 2013, 22:23
So I should:

a) send out a poll and ask if anyone plans on posting again before I write anything

b) lock it

c) ask that it be done with


Which would you do?


Hardly seems worth worrying about!

brunop
January 23, 2013, 23:00
I feel the same way; I participated and didn't close the thread.

I was merely pointing out that if I felt like asking people to 'give it a rest', (somewhere on the 'Low-Impact' to 'No-Impact' Moderation Continuum), I would have to write a poll to find out if anyone was going to say anything else, OR, just ask it. I just asked.

Don't lock, don't write a poll, = just asking nicely, which is what I did. And I suspect that 308bolt was feeling cranky.

ALL FAL
January 24, 2013, 01:57
Most of us are Cranky right now Brunop and we all know why. 2A.

I'd lock the thread and be done with it.:wink:

Right Side Up
January 24, 2013, 03:21
Can we please let ggiilliiee RIP?





I honestly don't think he'd want to. :biggrin:

brunop
January 25, 2013, 01:23
I honestly don't think he'd want to. :biggrin:

Are you serious?!!! Of course he wouldn't want this to end - the way this is going, he's immortal. I think Slomo pointed that he was still working people over from beyond the grave a few posts ago.

homelandprotector
January 26, 2013, 13:11
So I should:

a) send out a poll and ask if anyone plans on posting again before I write anything

b) lock it

c) ask that it be done with


Which would you do?
Delete this cluster of trash today, do the forum a favor. :cool:

Hollis Wood
January 26, 2013, 17:11
Yep.

4x401
January 27, 2013, 22:19
I vote for at least 2 more pages of meaningless posts written by tripe who don't know a thing about the topic....And that begs an addition to my sig line.

Jaxxas
January 27, 2013, 22:23
I vote for at least 2 more pages of meaningless posts written by tripe who don't know a thing about the topic....And that begs an addition to my sig line.


Personally I'm not into to tripe! To each his own, but I say where's the freaking beef baby?