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Anzio44
December 01, 2012, 15:33
Not sure if anyone is interested, but I picked up one of the VZ 58 kits from Apex for $175 recently. The parts kit was in brand new condition and the bolt had not even fired a live round. The sales rotate, so just keep checking. Basicly, it's a Polish design of an AK. Lighter weight and a milled reciver vs a stamped reciever. Should anyone else be interested in building one here is some info.

https://www.apexgunparts.com/
http://shop.roninsgrips.com/Czech-VZ58-Grips_c4.htm
http://www.clearviewinvest.com/vz58.aspx
http://www.czechpoint-usa.com/products/spare-parts-and-accessories/vz-58-parts-and-accessories/?list=7
http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/product/2-MAKAG58
http://northeasternarms.com/accessories/cz-858-vz-58
https://assaultweaponsofohio.net/shop/index.php?route=product/category&path=61
http://aa-ok.com/catalogsearch/result/index/?q=vz+58&commit=Go&p=2
http://50ae.net/vz58-2/
http://www.projectguns.com/vz581.html
http://www.bonesteelarms.com/VZ-58_c2.htm
http://www.theakforum.net/phpBB3/viewforum.php?f=76
http://www.theakforum.net/files/VZ58-BUILD.pdf
http://www.zahal.org/groups/shop-sa-vz-58-cz-858
http://www.czfirearms.us/index.php?board=67.0

Make sure you check for all parts before starting and happy building!

Peconga
December 01, 2012, 17:23
What receiver are you going to use? ORF or D-Technik? Or going the roll-your-own re-weld route?

cbr954fz1
December 01, 2012, 18:46
wow, thats some great info :bow::bow: thanks for the share..cbr:fal:

julysol
December 01, 2012, 20:03
Not a re-design of an ak and its a Czech rifle, not Polish. AK and VZ58 are completely different animals. The only thing they share is the ammo they eat.
The extreme curve of the mag gives it a similar appearance from afar and to those not in the know.

I built one from one of Apex's parts kits. Mine wasn't unfired but in excellent condition and built up really nice and is very accurate. It doesn't like to feed Yugo brass ammo though. I'm sure a massage on the feed ramp would fix that, but I haven't gotten around to doing that yet.

Before you order your receiver, you need to know that there are different barrel sizes at the point where the barrel presses into the receiver so you'll need a precise measurement and order a receiver with the correct press fit for your particular barrel. The differences are a matter of a mil. or 2 of an inch. Make sure you use a calibrated tool when you measure it.

fugi
December 02, 2012, 01:08
Basicly, it's a Polish design of an AK.

After reading http://50ae.net/vz58-2/ I hoped you would have also read http://50ae.net/VZ-vs-AK/

If you choose to build it out, go with the D-Technik receiver, ORF isn't quite in spec with regards to the feed ramp and receiver cover pin hole, which also functions to contain the striker and recoil spring.

cbr954fz1
December 02, 2012, 01:51
tried to find a D-Technik receiver but no luck:sad:.i hate to say it but the selector mod has me abit nervous...cbr

Dirt1042
December 05, 2012, 04:54
I'm kinda wanting to do this. I woud send it off to be done. Who's a good smith that is willing to work with an ORF receiver?

cbr954fz1
December 05, 2012, 15:22
i found out that CNC warrior is finally doing the vz rec and they're taking preorders for them..due jan-feb at $340.. i think thats the way to go..i've built on the orf rec but i got mine long before they went out of business..i had to knurl the barrel for a tighter fit but it came out fine. i also built one w/an original czech rec but 10rd that took some fitting.. cbr:fal:

fugi
December 05, 2012, 17:35
Holy crap, CNC warrior is going to make them. I had no idea they even made receivers, now I have so many more parts kits to buy.

Dirt1042
December 06, 2012, 11:39
Sweet looks like they have the flash hider needed as well. As far as compliance parts is there anything good out there besides ORF? Seems everything they did was jacked up.

cbr954fz1
December 06, 2012, 15:43
only need 5 u.s. parts for a vz...cnc rec, cnc brake and cnc hts...done:biggrin:

armoredman
December 06, 2012, 20:43
czechpointusa.com has all the parts you need. Compliance parts can also be had from Bonesteele Arms, including some excellent FCGs. The only vz-58s that don't need to play the 10 or less game are the vz-58 pistols and the single stack 10 round magazine only versions. There is also a Cali compliant version with bullet button that loads with stripper clips.

alphadog58
December 07, 2012, 10:46
Oh great, Something else I just gotta build...
Larry

Dirt1042
December 07, 2012, 11:00
Oh great, Something else I just gotta build...
Larry

I know what you mean. I kinda wanted one of these a while back and now those new receivers coming are making them look even better when I don't have to use ORF.

navajo
December 09, 2012, 23:21
First 58 I saw was in 1967. Been wanting one since. Bought Czechpoint a few years ago. Superb weapon. Light, fast handleing and accurate.

Dirt1042
December 22, 2012, 16:37
I pulled the proverbial trigger and bought a folding stock kit, bayo, and a few mags. Next, I just need to place an order on a CNCwarrior receiver and comp parts. Then find a builder to ratchet one together for me.

What kind of finish should be used on these?

tsmgguy
December 23, 2012, 11:41
This seller (Not my ad; no connection) has new condition Vz.58 mags for under $16 each when you buy 10. The ones sent to me are a very dark gray, almost black. Czechpoint-usa has the compliance parts for $1.50 each if you need them.

http://jesticearms.com/10-pack-VZ58.htm

Dirt1042
December 23, 2012, 13:40
This seller (Not my ad; no connection) has new condition Vz.58 mags for under $16 each when you buy 10. The ones sent to me are a very dark gray, almost black. Czechpoint-usa has the compliance parts for $1.50 each if you need them.

http://jesticearms.com/10-pack-VZ58.htm

SOLD OUT

drmetzger
December 31, 2012, 21:54
There are some VZ58 magazines for sale in the marketplace.

FUUN063
January 03, 2013, 08:56
I built mine up on an ORF receiver and that part of it went together quickly. They are really not that bad and the selector mod is not that bad either, using the receiver as a guide when final assembly. I put the CNC warrior muzzle device on and it looks like the original, so no complaints there. The issue I had was with the CNC warrior HTS. It took a bit of thinking to figure out what was happening, but once the lightbulb turned on, a very simple fix. The CNC warrior sear sat just a tad too far DOWN and locked up the entire works upon cocking and would not let anything happen. This caused me to reach inside the guts with a small tool, trip the sear and then disassemble as normal. A little weld "spot" under neath it and Dremel to thickness cured that. A pretty simple build, really. At one time, I had 20 or 30 of these kits and I noticed a little difference in the colors ranging from a nice medium battleship gray to a greenish gray to a dark, almost HK gray. I would paint to match whatever mags you got. By the way, lockup on these lightweight rifles is not even close to a standard AK. They use a toggle similar to the German P38 if you are familiar with those. Some folks have experienced a slight "hammering" of the receiver metal at this lockup point, but so far, I have not heard of it going past only a slight amount. Good luck.


Leland

tsmgguy
January 05, 2013, 07:40
SOLD OUT

Wow. That was fast. He had 1,000s of these.

nightschneider
January 05, 2013, 16:12
looking at gunbroker, the VZ58's seem to be flying under the radar of all the ban hysteria...looking at what things are actually being bid up to, a nice D-Technic gun can be had for under $1000...

that's a hell of a value in the land of $2500 dollar AR15's...

Dirt1042
January 05, 2013, 17:55
looking at gunbroker, the VZ58's seem to be flying under the radar of all the ban hysteria...looking at what things are actually being bid up to, a nice D-Technic gun can be had for under $1000...

that's a hell of a value in the land of $2500 dollar AR15's...

Shhhhhh don't tell anyone.:D Full kits with barrel are still around $250. $340 for receiver and under a bill for rest of Comp parts and you got a vz 58 for $690. Better buy mags first though.

Dirt1042
January 05, 2013, 18:00
Wow. That was fast. He had 1,000s of these.

Oh he still has some.....:rolleyes:

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=324318437

Anzio44
January 08, 2013, 23:05
https://assaultweaponsofohio.net/shop/index.php?route=product/category&path=61

These are the folks who I purchased my reciever from. They post on gunbroker cheaper than what is on the site. I will start building mine after my trip to the sandbox. Sorry, haven't been around due to training... Hope it helps!

Dirt1042
May 03, 2013, 22:12
Anybody hear about the CNC warrior receivers yet?

Anzio44
September 28, 2013, 18:32
I began my VZ 58 build. The receiver from Assault Weapons of Ohio had some small issues. Three holes were drilled the correct size. I had to drill out most of the holes and clean out extra material left from milling (when made). All parts from the APEX parts kit fit. For 922r parts, I used the Bone Steel trigger parts group, piston, and muzzle break. I am also putting on the Ronin pistol grip. I know this I well in excess of 922r parts, but better too many than not enough. Also, you will want to order a front rivet from Czech point. Additionally, the kit from APEX does not have a sear. Fair warning.

I wanted to include some additional build links I found useful.

Fire Control Group (until I found this diagram, I was pretty lost) http://www.theakforum.net/forums/66-czechoslovakian/89431-orf-sa-vz58-fire-control-group-alignment.html

Tutorial-better pics of parts install
http://www.theakforum.net/forums/66-czechoslovakian/56087-vz-58-build-tutorial.html

Tutorial 2
http://www.autochart.com/vz58.htm

beerbudget
September 29, 2013, 19:40
Here is another link I found useful. This is a great gun. Have fun!

http://www.projectguns.com/vz581.html

Dirt1042
October 24, 2013, 04:30
I went the CNC receiver route. Sent off my kit over a month ago to Sledgehammer. He had it put together in no time. It's just in a long line for refinish now.

DCBROWN
November 03, 2013, 19:40
I also have one of these kits ... Are you going to barrel it yourself ?

I'm trying to find someone to barrel mine

Do you know of a good gunsmith to barrel it ?
Thanks

Dirt1042
November 20, 2013, 01:14
I also have one of these kits ... Are you going to barrel it yourself ?

I'm trying to find someone to barrel mine

Do you know of a good gunsmith to barrel it ?
Thanks

Sledgehammer here on the files.