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Sneakers1971
October 08, 2012, 22:41
Ok Im pretty shure im going to pull the trigger on a new AUG a3sa.
What im not understanding is the receiver markings, Saber def. , Voltor, What gives?
I thought Saber was making receivers for the part kits Steyr was sending in. These
Are new production from Steyr and are fully backed by Steyr?
I read the disclosure Rat works has on their site about the two, but im just a,little confused, Saber or Voltor any good?

What is supposed to come with a new AUG, I think their are people scalping things out
of the boxes on GunsAmerica.

Maybe a lead on the best place to buy one please?
Thanks Rich.

hedp
October 09, 2012, 11:07
Sabre was a British based mil contractor with a plant in Nashville that machined the A3 receivers and produced barrels for Steyr from around 2009 til late 2010. They also made replacement machine gun barrels for the U.S. military, and shortly before being shut down were awarded a contract to supply M16A3 rifles for the Navy. They made good stuff.
The A3 is a Steyr, backed by Steyr. After some legal troubles shut Sabre down, Vltor out of Tucson is now machining the receivers with FN supplying barrels. But, the first few hundred A3s out of this current batch are supposedly going to still have Sabre marked receivers. Easy, huh?:?
Not sure what comes with the new AUGs, when I bought mine in 2009 it was a decent soft case, two mags, cleaning kit and other stuff. Pretty sure the case and second mag aren't part of the deal now.
Ratworx or Pets Athens at pjsteyraug.com are the people I go to for any AUG related needs.

Sneakers1971
October 09, 2012, 16:47
Thank you! With the new production of A3's I did not want to buy a clone or somthing,
Just getting my ducks in a row.
Most of the new a3's are being sold with one mag and thats it, kinda threw me off
when Ratworks was selling case,3 mags , cleaning kit, sling, t-shirt for almost the
same price.
I think I will shop at Ratworks!

Thanks for all your help!!
Rich.

FullAssault
October 12, 2012, 19:20
Just got a A3, mine is Sabre marked, the barrel is FN if Im understanding everything correctly. Mine came with one mag, OM, warranty card and a parts list. Seems well made.

http://i847.photobucket.com/albums/ab36/samuraijesse/AB850DE3-AA11-4B4C-B438-5A9FA7E67996-7424-00000204CE6659DC.jpg

sturmgrenadiere
October 12, 2012, 22:27
What stock is that? Do I see a PMag instead of an AUG mag?

FullAssault
October 13, 2012, 07:12
What stock is that? Do I see a PMag instead of an AUG mag?
It's the NATO version.

sturmgrenadiere
October 13, 2012, 07:14
I should have phrased my question better: are they being sold with the NATO stocks, or did you swap them out?

FullAssault
October 13, 2012, 13:16
I should have phrased my question better: are they being sold with the NATO stocks, or did you swap them out?It's being sold with the nato stock

gunhand
October 15, 2012, 19:46
I carried an Austrian AUG -P for 18 years as a Special Agent for U.S. Customs. I own two AUG A3's both with Sabre Defense receivers. I can see virtully no difference in quality between the Austrian and Sabre guns.

You have a rifle that will last for many years!!

FullAssault
October 16, 2012, 10:35
I carried an Austrian AUG -P for 18 years as a Special Agent for U.S. Customs. I own two AUG A3's both with Sabre Defense receivers. I can see virtully no difference in quality between the Austrian and Sabre guns.

You have a rifle that will last for many years!!Thanks!!! I like it much better than my FS2K

spider991
November 05, 2012, 11:59
No range report yet? I been looking at one......:]

gunhand
November 06, 2012, 06:35
Spider, I can give you a short range report on the two AUG A3s I have. I purchased my first one approximately 18 months ago from Pete Athens. The second one I purchased from Pete in June. I have both the Steyr and the NATO stocks for both rifles.

As I stated earlier, I am a retired Special Agent with the U.S. Customs Service. In 1987 I was selected to be one of the first 30 agents to do field testing of the AUG P model rifle. I underwent three days of training in Tucson Arizona with the Steyr factory law enforcement rep, Erwin Derntl. After 18 months of testing, the U.S. Customs Service purchased the AUG to be its standard issue rifle.

I carried the same rifle I tested for 17 years before a small roll pin fell out and caused the charging handle and spring to fall off. By policy, I returned the rifle to our national firearms staff for repair. They kept my original rifle, and sent me a new AUG as a replacement.

Of course I was bummed because my original rifle had served so well, and had fired over 70,000 rounds without a single malfunction. Of course the new AUG was just as reliable, but I only had it for one year before I retired.

My new rifle has approximately 4,000 rounds through it as of this writing. As expected, I have had ZERO malfunctions with this Sabre Defense rifle. I use an Aimpoint PRO optic which is perfect for the AUG. If I do my part with proper ammunition, sub one inch groups are attainable with my AUG. But this rifle was built to be a combat rifle, not a sniper rifle.

Not long after I got my new AUG, I had the opportunity to fire it on a military rifle range with pop-up targets from 25 to 300 meters. At these ranges, it was very easy to make one shot hits on all targets.

I then was afforded the chance to shoot on a machine gun range with pop-up targets to 1100 meters. It was fairly easy to knock down the 500 meter target with ease from the standing off-hand position. So I can attest that the accuracy of these U.S. made rfiles is completely on par with the Austrian rifles.

Some people complain about the trigger on the AUG. I have of course had a lot of experience with it, and I find it not to be an issue. But to those who say it's not a match grade trigger, I say this. It was never designed to be a sniper rifle, the MOA it was designed to defeat is Minute Of Ambush. It was designed to be nearly indestructable, and function every time, in the worst conditions of combat.

I know there are rifles with better triggers on them, but when you are in a situation that the target is not paper, and is shooting back at you, that heavier trigger pull will not be noticed. What you will notice is the fact the rifle will work virtually every time you pull the trigger. If you do proper maintence, and use good ammunition, this rifle will be there for you when you need it.

IMHO, there is no finer combat rifle currently in existance.

spider991
November 07, 2012, 11:06
Gunhand
wow, great report...
been looking at the nato stock due to me already having TONS of pmags, just seems natural to move to that. I fell in love with the aug years ago as the county swat had augs, they loved them, and i got to shoot them. I am gonna take a seroius look at these now after your report. Hopefully things wont go crazy after last nights election and i can grab one at the prices going now. Again, thanks for the great report.

Spider

JK919
November 28, 2012, 18:13
To anyone with a NATO A3 stock:

Are you getting marks on the bottom of your bolt carrier? I put about a hundred rounds through mine and noticed a few scratches there. I'm assuming it's from the bold hold open - but is this normal wear?

gunhand
December 04, 2012, 20:13
That appears to be normal, and I don't anything to worry about. I have over 4,000 round through my AUG A3 with the NATO stock, and zero problems