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Timber Wolf
August 31, 2012, 08:21
I own several, and actually carry one on occasion. My first was of course a classic "Son of Sam" Charter Arms Bulldog in .44 Special. I picked up this very clean original model at a gun show many, many years back and have really enjoyed it. It has some hand-filling but not too large factory grips that feel just right and as I recall the gun is pretty accurate with Winchester Silvertips.

Fast forward several years to me buying two more pocket cannons at a bankruptcy auction. One was a .44 Special S&W 296 Airlite Ti and the other was a Taurus 450 Titanium in .45 Colt. The S&W is cool but actually kind of large although is certainly does not weigh anything. The Taurus is cool and in .45 Colt is kind of the ultimate big-bore snubbie (although they did make it in magnum versions too I think) but I’m not real keen on the barrel porting. I also did not like the “Ribber” grips it came with and quickly replaced them with some Houges. The finish on the Taurus actually has kind of a blue-ish hue to it and makes for a very attractive piece.

My last biggie-snubbie is a Rossi M720. It is a stainless .44 Special 5-shooter with a 3” barrel and bobbed hammer. It is easily my favorite of the bunch being just the right combination of weight, size, and balance. The factory rubber grip looks funny but feels great to me. Like the Bulldog, I love it when a gun comes from the factory with grips that feel just right and I don’t need to do anything to it or spend any more money on it. It is the same physical size as my 3” Ruger .357 SP101 but does not bark as much as the magnum. Hard to argue that a 240 grain JHP or even lead wadcutter will not get the job done. Anyway, any other lovers of full-figured snubbies hereabouts?

W.E.G.
August 31, 2012, 09:13
Can you take a pic of the Bulldog alongside a common semi-auto pistol?

ruinator
August 31, 2012, 10:18
Love my "Son of Sam" Bulldog.:devil: My preferred EDC in the summer heat, when I dress light and want something lighter then 1911.

RandyB45
August 31, 2012, 10:47
I had a Bulldog. My daughter fell in love with it. :cry: It has a dovetailed Sig 220 front sight and a very nice action job.

Ed Lovette's book "The Big Bore Revolver" is great reading.

HighRatMaster
August 31, 2012, 11:39
I really like my S&W 696, lotsa .44 Special goodness, much more compact tham the 29 series. I usually carry it when I'm doing something important.

http://i901.photobucket.com/albums/ac214/kclark4895/001-15.jpg

http://i901.photobucket.com/albums/ac214/kclark4895/125.jpg

Right Side Up
August 31, 2012, 11:54
My 624.

A square 10
August 31, 2012, 14:11
had a dan wesson 357mag with 2" bbl but i gave it to a friend

Retired Bum
August 31, 2012, 14:12
Back in 1984 I bought the Charter Arms stainless Bulldog .44 Spl with the three inch barrel. It was a decent looking piece. Much nicer than the first generation blued .44 Bulldogs. But the quality just wasn't there. The ejector rod would back out under recoil and keep me from opening the cylinder. This was with the Winchester factory 246 gr RNL load. I tried loctiting it in place but it was a no go. So I traded it off for a better quality firearm.

Now I own a S&W Model 696 no dash purchased in 1996. Replaced the factory neoprene grips with a set of S&W laminted wood boot grips. Much nicer looking and the grips help me handle the recoil. I use the 696 as a house gun loaded with the Federal 200 gr LSWCHP which I consider to be the big brother to the .38 Spl +P 158 gr LSWCHP "FBI Load". The 696 is just too big and heavy for concealed carry for me. And if I wanted to pack a .44 for open carry I would pack my Model 629 .44 Mag Mountain Revolver. Loaded with the Winchester 210 gr Silvertip JHP. It will handle any two or four legged critter to be found in this area.

And so it goes.


The Retired One

spider991
August 31, 2012, 19:54
I loven my m29 classic 4in, but i reload so much 44special and one of my all time favorites is the 45 colt...been eyeballing the charter arms bulldog or a smith short 45colt mountain gun. Maybe both.

bykerhd
August 31, 2012, 21:00
A Taurus Public Defender pretty much covers my "Big-Bore Snubbies" requirements.
Plus, it's fun, even though it CAN hurt a bit to blast with.

Interchangeably shoots .45 Colt or 2 1/2" .410 of whatever variety you like.
Shoot & smile sort of rig.

Texgunner
August 31, 2012, 21:30
I like them too.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y292/Texgunner/post1.jpg

black sheep
August 31, 2012, 21:31
Ruger alaskan 44 mag, loaded with Buffalo bore 340 grain +p+.....is quite a handful, but VERY confidence inspiring.....I have plenty of semi autos, but I love a nice wheelgun, and i will accept the size and weight penalty to pack this beast around....

Bob:cool::beer:

Artful
September 01, 2012, 10:03
Can you take a pic of the Bulldog alongside a common semi-auto pistol?

http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/8448/handguns1984.jpg
googlage photo for ya :]

RandyB45
September 01, 2012, 10:53
Ruger alaskan 44 mag, loaded with Buffalo bore 340 grain +p+.....is quite a handful, but VERY confidence inspiring.....I have plenty of semi autos, but I love a nice wheelgun, and i will accept the size and weight penalty to pack this beast around....

Bob:cool::beer:
I once referred to that as the Sarah Palin Commemorative: Loud, Accurate, and shoots clean to Russia.

Timber Wolf
September 01, 2012, 15:30
Can you take a pic of the Bulldog alongside a common semi-auto pistol?

Yer gonna have to be more specific. Would you prefer a .25, .32, .380, 9mm, .40, .45, or what? What I think you are hinting at is; for pure small, light, but still comforting carry my Ruger LC9 gets the nod.

parallaxbill
September 01, 2012, 16:49
I carry a Charter Arms Bulldog Pug but my new favorite short barreled deer and hog killer is this 4" Ruger Redhawk 45Colt.
This is a buddy of mine shooting Underwood 300 gr bullets through it yesterday.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PP0sl7HPH0k&feature=youtube_gdata_player

SWOHFAL
September 01, 2012, 21:23
http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/8448/handguns1984.jpg
googlage photo for ya :]

The 1970s called and needs its carpet back. :p

In any case, I wish I had picked up a 696 when I had a chance, as they are going for quite a price now, IMO.

W.E.G.
September 01, 2012, 22:05
A photo of the Bulldog alongside any common semi-auto that also shoots bullets in a caliber that starts with "4" would be interesting.

HighRatMaster
September 01, 2012, 22:15
I wish I had picked up a 696 when I had a chance, as they are going for quite a price now, IMO.

I was really lucky, I picked up my no dash in '99, like new. I couldn't talk the dealer below $300 but he threw in a new Bianchi holster and a box of ammo.

STGThndr
September 02, 2012, 01:49
Not so much.. had a .44mag Rossi snub. Got rid of it when I figured out that an Officer's ACP did what I wanted and was easier to carry.

Jaxxas
September 02, 2012, 01:56
I shot the Ruger .454 casull snubbie once! I won't make that mistake again!

parallaxbill
September 02, 2012, 04:24
This is another of my big bore snubbies. Ruger "old model" Vaquero 45 Colt.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y203/ParallaxBill/Ruger%20Vaquero/MVC-283F.jpg

FUUN063
September 02, 2012, 10:38
I had a few over the years. Carried a Taurus .45 Colt 5 shot ported for a while. It seems like it would pull a bullet or two as I fired the other rounds, IIRC. Now, I gots me some ol' timey snubbie action!!

http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z341/FUUN063/Britishguns001.jpg

WEBLEY Aussie police model at the top above a standard .38 top break model.

Leland
:fal:

catmguy445
September 02, 2012, 14:17
Years ago I bought one of Lew Horton's S&W Model 24-3 N frame .44 Spl. with a K frame round butt and 3" barrel. It turned out to be super accurate, and a lot of fun to shoot. I also have a couple of S&W Model 25's in .45 Colt with 4" barrels, but I really can't call them "smubbies". All of them are great guns, though.

Artful
September 02, 2012, 16:07
A photo of the Bulldog alongside any common semi-auto that also shoots bullets in a caliber that starts with "4" would be interesting.

What you didn't like the photo I googled up?
The Detonic's is a 45 compact and the Bulldog shows about the same size.
:confused:

how about his one
http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w188/TheRealHawkeye/IMAG0105.jpg
No that won't work it's a Kahr P-9

how about this one
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploads15/DSCN23951255143880.jpg

You would think some people didn't know how to use google :bow:

W.E.G.
September 02, 2012, 16:10
You would think some people didn't know how to use google :bow:

:devil:

Retired Bum
September 02, 2012, 16:58
Some years back a shooting buddy of mine pulled out his newest creation that he had a gunsmith make up for him. The revolver had originally started out as a US Army Model 1917 .45 ACP. Then it got the "Fitz Special" surgery.

Barrel shortened to two inches. Ditto the ejector rod. No front sight. The hammer spur was ground off. Front end of the trigger guard was cut off. The square butt was ground down into a semi round butt. Lanyard ring removed and it was wearing a custom set of walnut checkered grips. And all the metal work was nickel plated.....

My pal was very proud of this butchered New Service and told me that it was going to be his EDC. Loaded with Winchester 230 gr Silvertip JHP. I tried not to let my look of bewilderment show but I just couldn't do it. Especially when he told me how much money he had spent on this thing. Just over $1200 including the revolver. Oh well....

And so it goes.


The Retired One

Artful
September 02, 2012, 18:12
Fitzgerald usually put on a front sight...
http://laststandonzombieisland.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/clyde-fitzgerald.jpg

fire for effect
September 03, 2012, 19:11
Taurus use to make a five shot 2" snubby in .45 long colt. I have one and carry it occasionally. I don't know why they ever stopped making it.

gunsmoke
September 03, 2012, 22:05
Got a brace of S & W 296ti, w/crimson trace laser grips, had them for about 12-13 years now got them for my pre-dawn 5 mile runs. Stoked with 200 gr VERY hard cast wadcutters, usually carry a pair of hks speedloaders for each.

Longer than that I've had an original early target (4"0) Bulldog not a snubbie but a favorite concealable carry gun, 240 gr LBT WFN gripped by Pachmayer Compacs. Very very nice shooting accurate gun.

JB Books
September 04, 2012, 19:23
I have a several big bores, but only one snubby

Ruger Alaskan .454 Casull

badt00d
September 23, 2012, 12:01
http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll75/badt00d/th_625-4.jpg (http://s285.photobucket.com/albums/ll75/badt00d/?action=view&current=625-4.jpg) Model 625 45 Autorim. Done by Cylinder and Slide

Hoot G
September 23, 2012, 18:41
Old timer;

HighRatMaster
September 23, 2012, 22:24
Wow Hoot! that's sharp, any history?

Hoot G
September 24, 2012, 01:11
Thanks HRM!

No direct history, unfortunately. I got it from a buddy of mine at a gun show. I did some research, and it seems that it was a not uncommon conversion in the 50's and 60's. Originally a Smith & Wesson 1917, it got modified to a more "useful" configuration. Nice feel, and it shot well.

Unfortunately, the guy I got it from is also a .45 fan, and about a year after I got it from him, he got it back. He found a Browning HP I just couldn't resist. :]

I might try to see if I can get it back from him one day. It is a neat piece.

DYNOMIKE
September 24, 2012, 08:32
I like this one quite a bit.. :wink:
http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj295/DYNOMIKE_photos/P5260044.jpg

K. Funk
September 24, 2012, 22:05
I just picked up a Smith 460 ES which is an X frame with a 2-3/4" barrel. Tempted to keep it, but I gotta sell it. It will be hitting Gunbroker soon.

krfr

big44man
September 24, 2012, 22:38
In the past 30 years, I have owned and carried not one but two S&W 624s with 3 inch barrel in .44 Special, a S&W 629 2-1/2 inch barrel, a S&W 696 5shot .44 Special, and currently carry a S&W 629 4 inch barrel.
I also own and have shot a .44 Magnum Derringer (300 grain full power loads, no less!:uhoh:), which I will not be doing again. I load it with .44 Special now, and it is a nice compact carry gun when even a S&W 637 is too bulky.

bykerhd
September 24, 2012, 23:37
Good decision on selling that snubbie .460 blaster K. Funk.
I think S & W marketed those and the .500 as "Survival" pistols ?
One of them came in an airline type case with orange grips ?

Use it on a Grizzly only when he actually starts gnawing on you.:uhoh:

That will give you a reference, if you survive, as to which was worse, the bear mauling you, or the .460 S & W snubbie blaster maiming you body & soul.

I doubt anyone would ever fire one more than once unless there really was a bear, lion, charging elephant, or whatever to be dealt with right NOW up real close and personal !

Wouldn't really matter though as the shooter would be unable to see or hear the animal agent of his doom anymore anyway after the first shot.:wink:

STGThndr
September 25, 2012, 00:41
Retired Bum sez: Barrel shortened to two inches. Ditto the ejector rod. No front sight. The hammer spur was ground off. Front end of the trigger guard was cut off. The square butt was ground down into a semi round butt. Lanyard ring removed and it was wearing a custom set of walnut checkered grips. And all the metal work was nickel plated.....

I sez! PICS! Without pics it didnt happen! lol
What a godless thing to do to a helpless old revolver... not to mention what it cost...

K. Funk
September 25, 2012, 20:29
Really a nice piece of iron. My buddy in R&D actually holds the patent on Custom 465, which is required to hold this beast together.

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c272/kandainv/IMG_6820.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c272/kandainv/IMG_6830.jpg

This will go up on Gunbroker this Sunday.

krf

Buster H
September 27, 2012, 22:52
I really like my S&W 696, lotsa .44 Special goodness, much more compact tham the 29 series. I usually carry it when I'm doing something important.

http://i901.photobucket.com/albums/ac214/kclark4895/001-15.jpg

http://i901.photobucket.com/albums/ac214/kclark4895/125.jpg

HRM,

Moose, yes?

Thanks,

Buster

4x401
September 27, 2012, 22:56
[QUOTE=HighRatMaster;3419294]I really like my S&W 696, lotsa .44 Special goodness, much more compact tham the 29 series. I usually carry it when I'm doing something important.

http://i901.photobucket.com/albums/ac214/kclark4895/001-15.jpg

Holy crap thats a sweet piece!!:bow:

HighRatMaster
September 27, 2012, 23:54
Yes , moose. My brother's place in Alaska is extremely remote, near where the Toklat river ends. We make sure to pack some iron when going to the out house or handling meat.

I don't consider myself a wheelgun fan but I instantly fell in love with this 696, it's a sweetheart, a useful sweetheart. :biggrin:

STGThndr
October 04, 2012, 04:58
Gunsmoke sez:
Got a brace of S & W 296ti, w/crimson trace laser grips, had them for about 12-13 years now got them for my pre-dawn 5 mile runs.

Where in hell do you run? The DMZ? Gaza Strip?

Deltaten
October 04, 2012, 22:44
^^^

Now that's some funny shit, right there! ;)