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April 02, 2002, 17:48
OK, so ya gotta enter stuff into and outta the book. As a C&R holder, if you sell to a non-licencee, is it required to do NICS check? We're required to hold to the same "in-out" paperwork standards as Type 01 FFL, it would seem to me to require the same I.D. check on individual sales.Not that I want to, but; How do you take one off the books to sell private w/o the paperwork/4473?
OR; If we can't do individual sales, just how-in-the-hell do we get rid of excess pieces, other than pass 'em along to another C&R? Sorta like post-ban dealer samples?
I've waded thru the regs, but can't seem to find the answer...mebbe I'm just not looking at the question properly. Or is it a case of a non-existant problem looking for an impossible solution. :D
April 02, 2002, 18:02
Delta . I dont have the answer, but I do have a possible solution. When you get tired of anything just sheet it over to me. If you get a nicer piece, send the old one my way.
I will,in turn,Promise never to pay you anything so no-one can say you are running a business.And I will have a collection too!
win-win Good deal for both parties. ;)
Sorry for the poor attempt at humor.Its been a long day.
April 02, 2002, 18:44
Yeah! We could do that...call it thr "pass-it-along" club. ATF would prolly consider it a pyramid scheme, since no one is really getting money anyway, and book us all! :D
Not such a poor attempt at humor, either!
Mebbe that's why they have C&R regs, just to get all these old relics out of circulation!
April 02, 2002, 21:59
If you sell to a non-licensee, there is no NICS involved, you just have to log down their ID info in your bound book. Just the basic stuff like name, address, DOB, and DL#.
April 02, 2002, 23:07
what rob1 said, is what the atf agent who did my interview, told me to do.
April 02, 2002, 23:31
C&R/03 FFL allows you to receive and disposition C&Rs interstate to another licensee. You may RECEIVE firearms interstate from a non-licensee. You may disposition to a nonlicensed resident of another state only at your license address and only if sale is legal per laws of both states (27CFR 178.96).
Otherwise, disposition to non-licensees may not be made interstate under the provisions of the C&R FFL.
Dispositions intrastate are not covered by your 03 FFL (it's a Federal license remember) and you are subject to the same state & local laws applying to sales of firearms as anybody else BUT, you still need to record the disposition of the C&R in your Bound Book even though you didn't "use" the FFL to disposition/sell the C&R.
At least . . . that's how I read it :rolleyes:
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