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March 07, 2002, 21:04
I spent about an hour today with two ATF inspectors. I know them boh socially and thru church. They know I am a certified gun "queer" but they're still good decent helpful guys.( I haven't converted them to gun queer status yet, but I keep trying. :)
I was asking aout the advantages of getting a C&R and using it for a NFA weapon (machine gun) that qualifed for C&R. I was trying to detemine the advantaage over just buying a regular transferrable NFA weapon.
Both said, and backed up with the books, that the only advantage I could see to a C&R license NFA purchase was that I could buy one (NFA weapon) from out of state and when the transfer was approved have it shipped directly to me, or... I could physically go to the other state and pick up the weapon, neither of which would be possible for a regular NFA purchase. Therefore, I would save the money I'd pay to the in-state NFA FFL to handle the transfer.
As far as listing weapons in the bound book, you only need to list the weapon(s) you purchased using your C&R. So all my existing weapons aren't listed, or any "new" weapon I purchase after getting my CR.
Also a C&R allows me to cross state lines to pick up a firearm (C&R), to include handguns, which is of some advantage.
I'm now debating whether to get the C&R, or just buy a regular NFA.
I suppose the ammunition sale prices listed to C&R's and FFL's might make it worthwhile all by itself.
What do you guys think?
March 07, 2002, 21:30
its only $30 for three years. go for it. :D
March 07, 2002, 21:55
What is a, "gun queer"?
March 08, 2002, 07:57
it is a term of affection (or derision), depending on your point of view concerning guys hat really like firearms.
It was (is) a standard Glynco term, along with gun "stroke","nut", etc. Surprised you never heard the term before. It's used around here as a term of endearment by those of us who enjoy, rather than just carry firearm(s).
Doesn't have ANY kind of weirdo sexual peversion thing. Hope nobody took it that way. Maybe it's too specialized a word in my community to be well known by most non-leo's.
March 08, 2002, 08:09
The gman is a Limey (sorry, old bean), and may not have heard this peculiar American colloquiolism!
March 08, 2002, 08:37
Gee!! You're not such an evil moderator! :)
I say that because I don't believe you've everresponded to one of my posts.
I just assumed a Gman was another federalle!
March 08, 2002, 08:39
The Evil Moderator is not such a bad guy...
Thanks for the update on the visit with the BATF agents. C&R NFA is looking better and better....
March 08, 2002, 08:56
I'm getting soft in my old dottering years!
i've never heard the term "gun queer," and gave it a negative thought myself. i'm just a good 'ole boy from the south. we use gun freak, gun nut, and gun crazy, but i prefer firearms enthusiast.
March 08, 2002, 15:00
Originally posted by T2:
<STRONG>i've never heard the term "gun queer," and gave it a negative thought myself. i'm just a good 'ole boy from the south. </STRONG>
Same here. Never heard the term before. I dont think I would call anyone that at any of the local ranges. Gun nut maybe.
Was that term used at Pam's?
March 08, 2002, 17:25
Jar, I haven't been to Pam's in years. I know it was used when I was there last, about 1986 or so. When we're you last in beautiful FLEEEE TECH?
It was an integral part of Diplomatic Security Svc training.
I think the term originated before "those" other folks took over the word? I also think some non-gun folks use the term to denigrate us.
One of the ATF guys was joking in a proffer we're working today that I'll be a machine gun case for him. :) He's just too cheap to buy what you can shoot for free.
March 08, 2002, 17:49
Is it o.k. to let my wife know that I'm a gun queer?
March 08, 2002, 19:30
Heck yes! Tell your wife! We're gun queers, We're men,(excuse me Jen), we like loud nasty evil rifles, and we can fix anything with a hammer (or Dremel tool)!!!!
BE PROUD YOUR FAL!!!! :D :D
Somehow this really deteriorated from my C&R info. :)
March 08, 2002, 21:50
Absolutely serious here, I have never heard that term. Gun nut, aficianado, enthusiast sure but...gun queer? No.
I wasn't offended just shocked is all. You really have to be serious to be a...well...you know... :)don't ask don't tell
March 09, 2002, 18:53
I've never heard that term either up here in New England......(thankfully).....what part of the country are you from ...??? ( just curious....)
March 09, 2002, 20:56
v188... be aware that you must record ANY C&R weapon acquired after you get your license regardless of whether you use your license or not. That means any C&R you purchase for a local gun shop, inherit, are given, found in a dumpster, etc. Do a search in the C&R forum as I have posted links to 4 ATF letters that make this clarification. Once more, it is NOT only the C&R's that you receive from out of state using your license but ALL.
I have one and recommend people who are into older guns get one.
redneck whitesox PBR
March 10, 2002, 10:24
Gun Queer....not in MY neck of the woods !
Gun Nut or Gun Crank maybe even Gun Freak
but Gun Queer....ummmm....NO !
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