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awp101
January 29, 2002, 10:10
I have a 1949 K31 85-90% overall with a minty fresh bore.

Whatchu got?

jimmieZ
January 29, 2002, 11:38
I've got two of the critters - how do you tell the year of manufacture?

Jim Z

odin75
January 29, 2002, 11:52
I've got a 46 model with excellent metal, so so wood that I refinished to look nice while keeping the character marks. Just recieved some gp11 from aim and am taking it out this weekend to see what she'll do.

awp101
January 29, 2002, 12:01
JimmieZ-

Go here: www.swissrifles.com (http://www.swissrifles.com) and check your SN against the date of manufacture list they have.

BTW, did yours have the ID tags under the buttplate?

Also, the DoM for the stock will be stamped under the buttplate as well. A Roman numeral for the month and last two digits of the year. Mine is VI 49, so it was made in June 1949.

Finally, when you pull the wood from the action, the rifle SN should be stamped in the wood under the barrel.

It is not uncommon to find a stock several years older than the action, but having the same SN. This is because the stocks were made faster than the actions and were not stamped with a SN until the wood was mated to a rifle.

HTH :D

Rule .308
January 29, 2002, 13:31
Got two K-31s and a 1911 that is in excellent shape that I paid 125.00 for. It was the one that started this SR madness for me. :D :D

Tony.
January 29, 2002, 14:09
Got two of them, both have 85-90% blue. One is 1949, can't remember the year on the other one. They are by far my favorite C&R's, with my Czech VZ-24 coming in a close second.

I plan on buying more k31's once the price comes down a little. Should happen, since there is a rumor that there is a bunch more on the way.

'TUDE
January 29, 2002, 14:36
1948 & 1934. Mint bores with VG wood.
Love the smoothness of the actions and the acuracy.

jimmieZ
January 29, 2002, 15:07
AWP101:
No, my rifles didn't have any "ID tags" under the butt plates - but they do have the stock numbered to the rifle. I'll check my S/N's and let you know. They are extremely accurate.

The one I had out proves to be a 1941 made rifle - really nice bore.

The other one I have was made in Feb. of 1945 - it also has a like new bore.

Jim Z

[ January 29, 2002: Message edited by: jimmieZ ]

[ January 30, 2002: Message edited by: jimmieZ ]

'TUDE
January 29, 2002, 15:14
By the way AWP, Wild West Pawn got in another lot of these. Priced at $159, but can be had cheaper if you haggle.

Some have walnut stocks and also two with 1934 dates. Blueing about 75% plus, with shooter grade wood.

WireGuy
January 29, 2002, 17:11
Greetings:

There's a local pawn shop with an interesting
Schmidt-Rubin that's been converted to .308.
Also has a Unertl (sp?) scope.
What little research I've done makes me
think the conversion wasn't done by the
Swiss.

Any thoughts?

These are seriously strange and wonderfull rifles.

WireGuy

Ask4id
January 29, 2002, 17:50
I got a sweet one from AIM. Any chance US ammo makers will start producing 7.5 Swiss? Anyone have connections?

xtremerange
January 29, 2002, 17:55
.308 SR

Hammerli made some K31s in .308 and 300 WinMag. 1911s were converted to .308 later. Not sure if conversions were done on both sides of the ocean or just the west side.

law4fun
January 29, 2002, 18:52
They are sweet, aren' they....
A good friend has one that I shot last weekend. Looks like a trip to N. Texas to see Wild Bill is in order. :D
Jim

[ January 29, 2002: Message edited by: law4fun ]

MrMosin
January 29, 2002, 19:06
Sorry guys, the K31's are nice but you haven't held a real rifle till you have a
96/11, a 1911, or a 1911 carbine. All the difference in the world. What true craftsmen
used to build.
Phil [respectfully] :D

faldoc
January 29, 2002, 23:53
I just sent AIM my C&R and I will order one up asap. Anyone get the select $180 model?

Landjaeger
January 30, 2002, 01:00
I have a select grade frome AIM and I love it. Metal finish is about 97%. The wood has a lot of dings and dents in it but nothing major.
The tag on mine indicates that it was not issued to a soldier. It seems to have spent it's life in an armory in Zurich.

I just loaded up some ammo for it this evening and can't wait to see haow it shoots. I used Lee dies, fireformed .284 brass, Fed. GMM primers, 43.9 grains of 4064 and a 168gr Matchking.

shortround
January 30, 2002, 01:07
I got a select from AIM. Worth it. I'd rate the metal at 98% with some dings in the stock from storage or handling.

markmckee
January 30, 2002, 05:30
The YOM on my two K31s are 1943 and 1953 (the '53 example was imported 3-4 yrs ago in a small Swiss release and is simply stunning!).
I've got a very nice K11, YOM 1927, and a neat 98/11 from 1902.
AWP101 is right, go to Swissrifles.com for more info on the SR family. You can also find the link to The Swiss Rifle Forum there. It's a great forum where SRs are the sole passion and the folk are not only experts on Swiss rifles but very friendly.
Mark

Sajer1
January 30, 2002, 14:15
k-31 select grade from AIM.
Picked up a case of ammo last week and and took her to the range. Nice shooter. Ammo was a but steep at .37 cents a round though.
Oh yea it's dated 45 and also has the unit tag under the but plate.

FNMike
January 30, 2002, 16:40
I picked mine up today from Aim.

Looked at the hand select and shooters grade and they were identical in condition on the metal, bore etc. Mine is about 90%......the only difference was in the wood, and there was very little difference in the amount of dings or finish between either one. He did say that mine for a shooters grade was better then most.

A heck of a bargin at $109.00.
Cannot wait to shoot it. :p :p

xtremerange
January 31, 2002, 10:04
Got a shooter grade from AIM that is 95% for the action. Buttplate is a little rusty. Action was made in 1937, arsenal refinished in 1953. Rifling is very strong. Not quite a mirror. More like the reflective metal 'mirrors' used in some gas station bathrooms.

Stock was a little beat up. Nothing deep. Pretty nice considering the stock is over 65 years old (made in May 1936).

srv656s
January 31, 2002, 13:47
I love K31's.

http://www.student.smsu.edu/s/srv656s/k31-1.jpg

Shawn

alFALfa
February 01, 2002, 17:49
I have a nice matching 1911 long rifle made in 1916 with excellent bore. Found it priced reasonbly at a show and it has been a favorite since.

faldoc
February 01, 2002, 18:45
They got my C&R and I ordered my K31 today. I will let you know how she looks. I can't wait!! :)

awp101
February 01, 2002, 21:38
Originally posted by Shawn:
<STRONG>I love K31's.

http://www.student.smsu.edu/s/srv656s/k31-1.jpg

Shawn</STRONG>


Say, those look familiar Shawn... ;)

csam
February 04, 2002, 16:09
http://www.coledistributing.com/

I don't have one but they do, for $119.95. I have never dealt with them, but the pics look great.

'TUDE
February 04, 2002, 16:12
Cole is a good guy and sells good firearms IMHO.
I've bought several different items from his company and was always satisfied.

photo4x5
February 05, 2002, 22:26
Ditto on Cole. www.coledistributing.com (http://www.coledistributing.com) has 7.5x55 brass case, boxer, from Indep. for $12.95 per box of 20. It has a 168gr. boattail and shoots very well. Sweet rifle! :p

faldoc
February 06, 2002, 17:11
Just got my walnut stocked select grade K31 from AIM, ordered 5 days ago, shipped 2 days ago. The metal is about 80%, but the bore is shiny and crisp. It comes with the brass muzzle cap. The gun and stock were made in 1944. The stock is a bit dinged up at the butt, but it should refinish well with a bit of effort. There is a cardbehind the buttplate with a name and Zurich typed there. I will clean it up, take pics and post tonight. I am quite happy with this. It is a slick gun!
Overall view pic (http://www.hunting-pictures.com/members/faldoc/K31%20overall.jpg)
Receiver view (http://www.hunting-pictures.com/members/faldoc/K31%20closeup%20receiver%20cross.jpg)
Top view (http://www.hunting-pictures.com/members/faldoc/K31%20top%20view%20receiver.jpg)
Rt receiver view (http://www.hunting-pictures.com/members/faldoc/K31%20Rt%20receiver2.jpg)

Edit:
here is gun with oiled stock:
Oiled up and shiny! (http://www.hunting-pictures.com/members/faldoc/K31%20overall%20oil.jpg)

[ February 08, 2002: Message edited by: faldoc ]

odin75
February 06, 2002, 21:50
Finally got out to the range this past sunday to try her out. I just started out at 50 to sight her in. Didn't need to bother with the gp11 ammo. Dead on and a 1.3" 10 shot group the first try. One sweet shooter. Think I'm hooked on these things.

Greg