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offshore44
May 19, 2012, 23:16
So, what's up with the CZ sub-forum?

Lots o'talk about CZ surplus pistols and such...what about the CZ rifles?

There are two in my family. One is my 7x57. It was made right after WWII, and before the fall of the iron curtain. The company was the predecessor of the current CZ company. Truly a work of art in wood and steel. Shoots sub MOA with the right load and conditions off the bench.

The other is a new CZ 550 American Safari in 458 Win Mag that shoots "bragging rights accurate" after a year of load development with paper patched bullets.

Let's hear from the CZ rifle contingent...I know you're out there!

gew98
May 20, 2012, 08:39
I had a beautiful CZ sporter w/claw mount scope in 7,92 caliber. It had set triggers and a gorgeous slim stock. It was made in 1947 for commercial sales and man did it have a nice fit and finish overall. Typical single post reticle with two fine horizontal lines leading to the post. I had intended to keep it but got offered a grand for it 5 years ago and it flew. Kinda regret it now.

armoredman
May 20, 2012, 14:41
CZ 527M in 7.62x39mm. Incredible light rifle, single set trigger, accurate and reliable.

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b13/armoredman/527/527Mlighter.jpg

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b13/armoredman/527/madlion-1.jpg

CZ 512 semi auto .22lr, unusual setup, trigger needs breaking in, accurate and interesting - use good quality ammo.

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b13/armoredman/512/secondtrip4.jpg

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b13/armoredman/512/512disassembly.jpg

CZ 452 Scout, son's rifle, reliable, durable, accurate and fun. He loves it.

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b13/armoredman/Rickys%20range%20day/Rickysrifledramatic.jpg

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b13/armoredman/CZ%20posters/Rickyand452Scout.jpg

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b13/armoredman/Rickys%20range%20day/Rickyhappy.jpg

Czechpoint SA vz-58 7.62x39mm, excellent rifle. Has FAB forearm, folding foregrip, folding stocking with rising cheekpeice, ergonomic pistol grip, Neit Arms extended abi mag release, Neit Arms extended bolt release, (all controls needed for shooting can be manipulated by the trigger finger), and Isareali patrol sling.

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b13/armoredman/vz-58%20targets/travelcompanion.jpg

Outfitted with the highly thought of Bushnell TRS-25 red dot, which seems to be working like a charm.

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b13/armoredman/vz-58%20targets/vz58sightininTRS25.jpg

I posted the SA vz-58 5.56mm in another thread, but here's a picture it.

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b13/armoredman/vz%2058%205%2056mm/withscope.jpg

Did I mention the shotgun? CZ 712 Utility 12 gauge semi-auto with 5 chokes, Nordic 5 round mag extension and barrel clamp, (No, I didn't know it was going to be that long!), and ATI adjustable length stock. Great shotgun, works on every load tried so far.

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b13/armoredman/CZ%20posters/712withbarrelclamp.jpg

offshore44
May 20, 2012, 16:06
That's what I'm talking about!

That a big smile on that lad's face, right there.

I like the single set trigger on my 550 American Safari. I like the stock as well. The wife's rifle has a safety that is really cool. It's a "flag style" lever on the left side of the bolt shroud. It fall naturally to the thumb, though it is a little difficult to operate right now. Needs a little work to clean up some burs.

Armoredman, I like the 527M that you have. I was looking at a similar rifle in .223 as a center fire plinker.

Keep'em coming!

kmurphy
May 20, 2012, 22:57
CZ453 in .17HMR is one of my best purchases ever.

MAINER
May 21, 2012, 19:36
That's what I'm talking about!

I like the single set trigger on my 550 American Safari. I like the stock as well. The wife's rifle has a safety that is really cool. It's a "flag style" lever on the left side of the bolt shroud. It fall naturally to the thumb, though it is a little difficult to operate right now. Needs a little work to clean up some burs.

Armoredman, I like the 527M that you have. I was looking at a similar rifle in .223 as a center fire plinker.

Ditto on that 527M. I think I'd like that in .22 Hornet. Give My Model 43 Winchester a rest.

The "flag style lever" is standard fare on M98 Mausers. I have one on a FN Mauser in 30-06 that I'm thinking of replacing with a Dakota M70 3 position.
The "flag" rests against the Scope housing in the safe position and hard to get a hold of. Would be OK if not for the scope.

My only CZ rifle is a 550 FS in 6.5x55 Mauser. Just got a 100 rds of Privi 139gr cartridges for it. Was going to order Privi unprimed brass, but for $20 more they come with bullets, primers and powder. Thanks PSA! :)

Mausers rule and CZ does 'em up right. :shades:

offshore44
May 21, 2012, 23:01
Well Hello Mainer! Long time no chat!

I'm used to the "flag" safety on the Mauser rifle...got a bunch of them. This one is on the left side of the shroud, not on top. When a right handed person holds the rifle in firing position, it is right above where your thumb naturally rests on the stock. The bolt shroud is not like any other Mauser that I have ever seen, nor the safety. The half round groove in the rear of the bolt that the safety engages is on the left side, not on the top of the bolt. It's a two position safety, safe and fire, with safe lifting the cocking piece and locking the bolt. It swings through about 100 degrees or so, and doesn't come anywhere near the scope. Even with the safety engaged, it doesn't ride any higher than the top of the rear bridge. Pretty nice and easy to use. Just move your thumb up or down to engage or disengage the safety.

I should post a picture of it...

I was looking at the Dakota three position safeties. The look nice. There's a non-trivial amount of machine work involved in installing those, i hear.

MAINER
May 22, 2012, 10:02
Well Hello Mainer! Long time no chat!

I'm used to the "flag" safety on the Mauser rifle...got a bunch of them. This one is on the left side of the shroud, not on top. When a right handed person holds the rifle in firing position, it is right above where your thumb naturally rests on the stock. The bolt shroud is not like any other Mauser that I have ever seen, nor the safety. The half round groove in the rear of the bolt that the safety engages is on the left side, not on the top of the bolt. It's a two position safety, safe and fire, with safe lifting the cocking piece and locking the bolt. It swings through about 100 degrees or so, and doesn't come anywhere near the scope. Even with the safety engaged, it doesn't ride any higher than the top of the rear bridge. Pretty nice and easy to use. Just move your thumb up or down to engage or disengage the safety.

I should post a picture of it...

I was looking at the Dakota three position safeties. The look nice. There's a non-trivial amount of machine work involved in installing those, i hear.

Sounds like we are talking about the same thing, I think? :confused:
This is what I have, mine is a model 50 also.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mauser-98-Bolt-Shroud-Cocking-Piece-and-Wing-Safety-FN-Take-Off-Ready-Go-/250983437011

To install a M70 safety on a Mauser does indeed require a whole bunch more machining than I am capable of. My "Machine Shop" consisting of a box of hammers, couple dozen chisels, 60 or so files, and an antique Drill Press that runs on a leather belt. I know my limits having exceded them many times. :D

I'm looking at something more like this;
http://shop.pacifictoolandgauge.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=49&products_id=1030&zenid=633cea72e2f730a9eb326f0717aba34c
This looks doable.

When it's done, it should look like this? :wink:

armoredman
May 22, 2012, 10:03
The 527M is one of the niftiest rifles I have ever fired. There's a few guys at czfirearms.us that are getting better groups than I am, but I love shooting it, fun rifle that is very light, easy to pack for miles.
Here's a buddy shooting mine with the Bushnell 4-12 scope, a bit more powerful than needed, but it was free. :)

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b13/armoredman/527/Larrywith527M.jpg

One modification, done by the same guy pictured above, (great gunsmith in the Phoenix area!), a folding adjustable rear sight. You can see why it was needed.

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b13/armoredman/527/scopebellandfoldingsight.jpg

I recently dismounted the scope, and have been having fun with irons, intend on using it for coyote soon...when I find a hunting buddy.

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b13/armoredman/527/003.jpg

offshore44
May 22, 2012, 18:39
Sounds like we are talking about the same thing, I think? :confused:


Nope. Man, I"ll have to post a picture of it. The bolt shroud is shaped differently than a normal Mauser. Think of the FN style shroud with a smooth longitudinal hump fared into the shroud on the left side. (the side with the bolt release / ejector) The pin that the safety swings on runs at about the 9 o'clock position when viewed from the rear and is parallel to the length of the bolt. The safety lever is wider than it is long by a factor of, probably, 4 times. It is gently curved down towards the stock when the rifle is on safe. I'm betting that at one time her rifle was a very high dollar item. It sure shoots like it. When the wife is "on her game" she has put three of five shots into the same hole at 100 yards. That's with Sierra Matchkings and 4064 powder. The first time that she did that, I thought that I messed up reloading, and that she had missed the backer board and target all-together at least twice. Nope, you could tell from the back side of the backer that it was three in the same hole.

I'll see what I can do about getting some pictures up for review. It's a really nice setup for a hunting safety. I think that I like it better than the M70 style, actually.

That's a nice gold inlayed rifle there, for sure!

offshore44
May 22, 2012, 18:45
The 527M is one of the niftiest rifles I have ever fired. There's a few guys at czfirearms.us that are getting better groups than I am, but I love shooting it, fun rifle that is very light, easy to pack for miles.
(snip)

I played with one like that at a local shop awhile back. I have to agree, very nice carbine. You know, you guys are going to cost me money, aren't you? I've been ignoring my lack of a bolt action carbine in 7.62x39 / .223 for a couple of years now...

armoredman
May 23, 2012, 00:04
I played with one like that at a local shop awhile back. I have to agree, very nice carbine. You know, you guys are going to cost me money, aren't you? I've been ignoring my lack of a bolt action carbine in 7.62x39 / .223 for a couple of years now...

Welcome to the addiction...:cool:

MAINER
May 23, 2012, 08:35
I'll see what I can do about getting some pictures up for review. It's a really nice setup for a hunting safety. I think that I like it better than the M70 style, actually.

That's a nice gold inlayed rifle there, for sure!

That ole rifle wouldn't happen to be a BRNO would it? I thought about buying one of those in 7x57 many years ago. An old classic Mauser for sure, loved the metal, hated the stock. It had a very thin forearm and a lot of drop in the butt. i doubt that there was a whole 16 ounces of wood on that thing. Used to more substantial American stocks, left the nice old BRNO for the collectors. $300 :cry:

You did know I was kidding about the gold engraving, right? :sad:
Only pic I had showing a 3 pos M70 safety on a Mauser. Wouldn't mind having the nice checkering on the bolt knob however. :shades:

armoredman, you're doing a fine job raising that boy. :bow:

armoredman
May 23, 2012, 12:04
By the way, CZ-USA is also importing Brno rifles now, and thank you - he'll be going to the range with me again very soon. ;)

Heat
June 07, 2012, 23:13
I was over at Cabelas and they have a CZ 527, laminate stock, .223 and a sweet 24 inch flat black barrel, action. thinking of getting it. Had a 527 sporter a few yrs back in .204 and was pleased with the rifle.

armoredman
June 08, 2012, 12:56
My son got a chance to try the 527M two days ago.

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b13/armoredman/Rickys%20range%20day/Ricky%20range%2012%209%2011/Ricky527M.jpg

dwarmbrodt
June 08, 2012, 20:08
I was over at Cabelas and they have a CZ 527, laminate stock, .223 and a sweet 24 inch flat black barrel, action. thinking of getting it. Had a 527 sporter a few yrs back in .204 and was pleased with the rifle.

In case it is important to you check the rate of twist. A while ago, most model 527's in .223 were 1 in 11.